Scientology

LaserRifleofDoom · Post by **LaserRifleofDoom** » 2005-06-28 10:30pm

I know some firends from high school, who have since graduated, who wento the Scientologist HQ in Wachington DC. There's an informational video and pamphlets. And, apparently, it's really funny to go there and read teh stuff and watch the video if you're smart and not completely gullible.

Also, apparently all major Scientologist churcher (or whatever they're called) are supposed to have a replica of Hubbard's office, with a pen and paper ready, so tat if he qwants to, he can come back and just start writing down more ideas.

Junghalli · Post by **Junghalli** » 2005-06-28 11:08pm

Bounty wrote:You have got to be kidding me.
Seriously, this is really what they believe ? You have to accept that there's such a thing as "Thetans" to be a scientologist ? It sounds like something from a mediocre Marvel comic.
You sure Xenu isn't an alias for Galactus ?

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Belief systems are like perversions. There is no ideology so bizzare, ludicrous, hateful, or blatantly in contradiction to the facts that someone, somewhere, won't swallow it hook, line, and sinker. This is just another demonstration of that.

Pick · Post by **Pick** » 2005-06-29 01:59am

For a small unit in my World Religions class, we studies Scientology. I remember watching part of the actual video Hubbard had, and let me tell you, there was a reason people joined: that ass had charisma, of a sort. The Reagan-esque type, and the type I'm completely certain J. Smith also possessed. It can get you anywhere with sheep-like people. It's incredible, really.

Tasoth · Post by **Tasoth** » 2005-06-29 02:27am

The indoctrination techniques are a form of brainwashing through sense deprevation and other bits. Hubbard also is a BSer and was his entire life. They're all over hollywood, which makes them scary.

Linkage!

spikenigma · Post by **spikenigma** » 2005-06-29 05:52am

MRDOD wrote:
The ones you mentioend are good examples- here's a char: Link

Things like "Ability to recognize the source of problems and make them vanish" and "Ability to communicate freely with anyone on any subject" are unverifiable, of course.

ha ha!

I thought so! - and I just pulled those examples out of my arse

the more vague the promise, the more it can never be fullfiled as is the case with nearly all of these little groups

" a peace which defies all understanding " - also comes to mind

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2005-06-29 11:01am

I like this Xenu fellow, how can I release him and join his empire?

mr friendly guy · Post by **mr friendly guy** » 2005-06-30 04:58am

His Divine Shadow wrote:I like this Xenu fellow, how can I release him and join his empire?

Bringing down Scientology would presumably help.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2005-06-30 05:12am

mr friendly guy wrote:
His Divine Shadow wrote:I like this Xenu fellow, how can I release him and join his empire?
Bringing down Scientology would presumably help.

I for one welcome our new evil alien overlord masters, All Praise Xenu

Speaking of which I need to get that made into a T-shirt.

Kane Starkiller · Post by **Kane Starkiller** » 2005-07-01 11:22am

Holy fucking shit!

Here's "Mr. Tom Cruise" giving Scientology cult leader "Mr. David Miscavige" the galactic space patrol salute [] at the International Association of Scientologists event, held in the U.K. in October, 2004:

What. A. Fucking. Idiot.

From the page Tasoth linked to a couple posts earlier.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2005-07-01 12:10pm

Kane Starkiller wrote:Holy fucking shit!

Here's "Mr. Tom Cruise" giving Scientology cult leader "Mr. David Miscavige" the galactic space patrol salute [] at the International Association of Scientologists event, held in the U.K. in October, 2004:

What. A. Fucking. Idiot.

From the page Tasoth linked to a couple posts earlier.

WAHAHAHAHHAHAHA Holy fucking shit... Could a "religion" be more retarded than this?

Damn, how short is that guy? Cruise is vertically challenged as hell, but that guy must be a midget...

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2005-07-01 02:15pm

"Galactic space patrol salute"! BWAHAHAHAHA!

Oh man, that is fucking hilarious. That sounds like something a seven-year-old would come up when he's playing space explorer!

Perinquus · Post by **Perinquus** » 2005-07-01 02:20pm

DPDarkPrimus wrote:"Galactic space patrol salute"! BWAHAHAHAHA!

Oh man, that is fucking hilarious. That sounds like something a seven-year-old would come up when he's playing space explorer!

I believe that's the name from "Red Dwarf", which this salute resembles. I gather the scientologists don't call it that, though they are certainly nutty enough otherwise.

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2005-07-01 02:27pm

"Man cannot survive is a race of true Espers is born. In time you'll come to understand that!"

Grasscutter · Post by **Grasscutter** » 2005-07-02 08:05pm

Kane Starkiller wrote:Holy fucking shit!

Here's "Mr. Tom Cruise" giving Scientology cult leader "Mr. David Miscavige" the galactic space patrol salute [] at the International Association of Scientologists event, held in the U.K. in October, 2004:

What. A. Fucking. Idiot.

From the page Tasoth linked to a couple posts earlier.

Is that the Stargate behind them

?!

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2005-07-02 10:22pm

Grasscutter wrote:
Kane Starkiller wrote:Holy fucking shit!

Here's "Mr. Tom Cruise" giving Scientology cult leader "Mr. David Miscavige" the galactic space patrol salute [] at the International Association of Scientologists event, held in the U.K. in October, 2004:

What. A. Fucking. Idiot.

From the page Tasoth linked to a couple posts earlier.
Is that the Stargate behind them ?!

You have to wonder how on Earth they could have forgotten to wear their capes.

Alliance SpecForceTrooper · Post by **Alliance SpecForceTrooper** » 2005-07-02 11:34pm

Tasoth wrote:They're all over hollywood, which makes them scary.

No, they're all over Clearwater, Florida (which I live 20 miles from).

First time I passed through the Fort Harrison area (aka Downtown Clearwater or The Center of the Universe for Scientologists), I saw all these people walking about in what looked like a blue military light/office duty uniform. At first I thought the local Air Force ROTCs had a big thing there or maybe some local Coast Guard unit was stationed there. I damn near shit when I learned it was the Scientologists. Crazy fuckers gave me the creeps and still do to this day. I avoid that area as much as possible.

As for their recruiting methods, they use anything they can, including seduction, economic incentive and quite possibly coercion. The old Soviet NKVD and KGB got nothing on these guys when it comes to 'acquisition' of new cultists.

Nephtys · Post by **Nephtys** » 2005-07-02 11:35pm

There's a few cases really of downright forced stuff, like one goes in for an 'introductory' session, curious... and is trapped there for days as part of their 'session', with many commonly used conditioning techniques used on them to become more dependant on the cult.

Spoonist · Post by **Spoonist** » 2005-07-04 07:13am

Nephtys wrote:
Spoonist wrote:Oh and their recruitment base is not the stupid like some other religions. It's the intellectual and well-educated. They don't want large flocks, they only need a select few with a steady income. Most of the recruiters I met where either sociology majors or engineers.
So most of you are prime targets.
You're insane. They target stupid middleclass americans who have no idea what the hell they're talking about, and with confidence issues. They prey on people who feel depressed and offer them a totally imaginary solution at 'only' a few thousand dollars... per level. You need to gain levels, don't you? Paying for brainwashing is fun. They'd like people who can sustain that level of income of course, but they mostly prey on simple middle-class dolts.

Just noticed this reply so I'll respond now.

First of, my insanity has nothing to do with the issue.

If you had read the post above and read both posts properly. You would have noticed that I'm talking about a personal experience, that means my knowledge is limited to my local scientologists, but it's also much more extensive on them than you'll ever get so by trying to imply that my experience doesn't count because your local scientologists works differently is quite redundant.

Also I consider middle-class americans to be well-educated. It's not like in some regions where higher education is discouraged because it makes you question things.
Most of the members of this board will become or already is middle-class this and that. Plus that most of the members are already into sci-fi etc.
I still think that with the exceptions of some SLAM regulars the board members are prime targets.
Steady income: check
Sceptic vs ordinary religion: check
Disillusionized: check
Inflated egos: check
Dysfunctional: che... well some at least