NGEvangelion coming to the mainstream

The Grim Squeaker · Post by **The Grim Squeaker** » 2005-07-03 03:11pm

Cartoon Network Acquires Neon Genesis Evangelon

"Anime News Network is reporting that Cartoon network will be airing All of Neon Genesis Evangelon. You can also read the Toon Zone speculation as well as some more."

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, il'l finally be able to watch the show at tv level resolution and the first 9 episodes for the second time "evar".

I wonder which of the 3 ending's they'll show.
Also I hope they dont tone it/edit it down since that would suck ball's.

Xero Cool Down · Post by **Xero Cool Down** » 2005-07-03 03:13pm

I see some serious editing in it. Even though it's adultswim...

Noble Ire · Post by **Noble Ire** » 2005-07-03 03:24pm

Xero Cool Down wrote:I see some serious editing in it. Even though it's adultswim...

Yes, lots of editing.

I never saw the first first seven episodes, so I was kind of lost when I saw the rest of it. I never got what the "Second Impact" was.

The Grim Squeaker · Post by **The Grim Squeaker** » 2005-07-03 03:27pm

Noble Ire wrote: Yes, lots of editing.
I never saw the first first seven episodes, so I was kind of lost when I saw the rest of it. I never got what the "Second Impact" was.

Massive Spoilage:

First impact was Adam destroying the dinosaur's 4 billion years ago.

Second was Adam (the first angel) being awoken by Katsuragis fathers expedition to the Antarctic and flooding the earth.

Third was all of humanity turning into bio-goo in the movie ending because of Shinji Ikari agreeing to it and Rei merging with Lilith

Noble Ire · Post by **Noble Ire** » 2005-07-03 03:31pm

Third was all of humanity turning into bio-goo in the movie ending

That sounds like a really sucky ending.

Note: What I did for the spoilers, you should have done as well.

Manus Celer Dei · Post by **Manus Celer Dei** » 2005-07-03 03:36pm

Yeah, I caught this on Evamonkey earlier today.

It really all depends on what version ADV decide to air. If they actually decide to go with japanese dialouge and english subs, then sure, it's not that bad, even if it is amazingly unlikely that they'll do that.

But they'll most likely go with the dub of DOOM. And I'll, uh, probably have to go pound some more nails into my forehead. Or just not watch it, I dunno.

EDIT- Shouldn't this be in OSF or FAN?

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2005-07-03 04:09pm

NGE was shown years ago on Sci-Fi over here completely unedited, but with the English dub which is horrid. Along with Blue Gender and Nadesico it made the bulk of the animé series on late at night and then repeated unedited around 1730 in the week as well. I hear a lot about the UK being heavy on censoring sometimes, but I know for a fact that the US is worse in many respects. We don't have Adult Swim here, but I assume they'd show the stuff next to the original format as possible when on late.

felineki · Post by **felineki** » 2005-07-03 05:12pm

Yay. As a lover of all things Eva and Angel-related, I'm excited. It'll be airing on Adult Swim? That's good, they'll be able to get away with less editing, hopefully. When CN aired the first 2 episodes on Toonami a while back, I nearly had a fit when they edited out Eva-01's blood. I mean, of course we have to protect the little kiddies, but this is one rare time in which the gratuitous gore is actually an important plot point! FWAARRRGH!!

Oh, and as the dub goes, the absolute worst part of it are the Evas' voices. Watch the last scene of dubbed episode 19 and try not to cringe. Ugh.

Manus Celer Dei · Post by **Manus Celer Dei** » 2005-07-03 05:15pm

Uh...how is the blood an "important plot point?"

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2005-07-03 05:19pm

The English dub is by far the worst dub for any animé in that language. Only the Finnish Digimon dubs beat it.

felineki · Post by **felineki** » 2005-07-03 05:20pm

Manus Celer Dei wrote:Uh...how is the blood an "important plot point?"

Because at this point, by all indications, the Eva is a robot. How often do robots bleed?

Faabio · Post by **Faabio** » 2005-07-03 05:22pm

Hmm Evangelion aired here in Finland on a channel called Subtv with original voices etc and Finnish subtitles. and well the only anime series shown here on tv are DargonballZ or Sailormoon, so to show evangelion was quite a suprise for us fans i think. now that it ended they're showing some of the episodes director's cut versions. And it was shown late at night so it was unedited too.

The Grim Squeaker · Post by **The Grim Squeaker** » 2005-07-03 05:23pm

felineki wrote:
Manus Celer Dei wrote:Uh...how is the blood an "important plot point?"
Because at this point, by all indications, the Eva is a robot. How often do robots bleed?

They are not robot's, they are biological being's that have been partialy lobotomized by human's. (A rough summary, I know

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Manus Celer Dei · Post by **Manus Celer Dei** » 2005-07-03 05:23pm

felineki wrote:
Manus Celer Dei wrote:Uh...how is the blood an "important plot point?"
Because at this point, by all indications, the Eva is a robot. How often do robots bleed?

Goddamit. It totally didn't occur to me that that mght be what you were on about.

felineki · Post by **felineki** » 2005-07-03 05:30pm

the .303 bookworm wrote:They are not robot's, they are biological being's that have been partialy lobotomized by human's. (A rough summary, I know )

Yes, I of all people would know that (hell, I've practically majored in Eva anatomy). The point is that the show initially presents them as robots, and gradually this illusion is shattered. It is an integral part of the story, and shouldn't be screwed around with. The blood coming from Eva-01's head in episode 2 is the first indication that it is -not- a robot, and removing it greatly decreases the impact of the entire scene.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2005-07-03 05:34pm

It's the goddamn dub. Doesn't freaking matter if it's unedited or not, it's the dub, which is a sin against Lillin and Angel alike.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2005-07-03 05:37pm

It could be rationalized that it was hydraulic fluid, but that's a stretch. The whole eye scene really sways it anyway.

Utsanomiko · Post by **Utsanomiko** » 2005-07-03 05:49pm

the .303 bookworm wrote: Massive Spoilage:

First impact was Adam destroying the dinosaur's.
Second was Adam (the first angel) being awoken by Katsuragis father and flooding the earth.
Third was all of humanity turning into bio-goo in the movie ending

First Impact occurred 4 billion years ago, coinciding with the arrival of Lilith's Black Moon and Adam's White Moon.

Oh, and while the dub is certainly atrocious in its poor characterization (nobody sounds their age, most overract and omit entire personality aspects, while tertiary characters sound straight out of a bad Godzilla dub. And Spike Spencer is a bastard.) and glaring translation errors (I have no idea why the fucked up the explanation of unit-01's probability of activation. Don't omit stuff just for a pun, dumb fucks...), I actually wouldn't call it the worst. Escaflowne has an entire lineup of indistinguishably dull voices reading their lines like its a radio program, and Love Hina is simply inexcusable.

ADV is really only good at dubbing in a technical sense. Every project is just more training for their ADR people to do what's treated as a purely technical task. In terms of performance, they set themselves up to train a crew good at dubbing, not good at acting.

zannal · Post by **zannal** » 2005-07-03 08:46pm

Sorry for my asking, I havent seen the series (I do know the major plot though so dont worry for spoilers or any thing) but what would they edit out, especially since it is being shown on Adult Swilm?

felineki · Post by **felineki** » 2005-07-03 09:13pm

zannal wrote:Sorry for my asking, I havent seen the series (I do know the major plot though so dont worry for spoilers or any thing) but what would they edit out, especially since it is being shown on Adult Swilm?

I really don't know. Given what some of the other shows on Adult Swim get away with, I'd say they probably could air it completely unedited, but they'll probably do some editing anyway.

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2005-07-03 09:25pm

Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck. This is going to suck balls, I just know it. I remember when they aired Eva on Toonami. Holy shit that was a bad dub. I would venture to say that it is in fact worse than Love Hina.

Utsanomiko · Post by **Utsanomiko** » 2005-07-03 11:42pm

*Re-reads OP*

the .303 bookworm wrote: I wonder which of the 3 ending's they'll show.
Also I hope they dont tone it/edit it down since that would suck ball's.

Waitaminnut, three endings? The TV series last 2 eps + the Movie = two endings, there's no third and technically the movie overrides the TV's rushed finale (which had to be re-written. The original script was much closer to what EoE encompassed).

Dunderhead...

Nephtys · Post by **Nephtys** » 2005-07-04 12:34am

Manga's got a totally unrelated ending, I do believe.

Utsanomiko · Post by **Utsanomiko** » 2005-07-04 12:46am

That has yet to be determined, as the last ~3 volumes have yet to be produced.

Which would still be irrelevant, as I do believe you can't show a Manga on TV.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2005-07-04 01:39am

Utsanomiko wrote: Which would still be irrelevant, as I do believe you can't show a Manga on TV.

But you can get manga on the PSP now!

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