Big Action Episodes

FaxModem1 · Post by **FaxModem1** » 2002-11-23 11:35pm

Which episodes of TNG were action episodes?

Example:"Conspiracy" is what I think it is called, about a bunch of parasites and when someone is infected, they have a little horn on the back of their neck.

Are there any other big action ones like that?

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2002-11-23 11:38pm

I loved that episode.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-11-24 12:10am

My favorite action episode of TNG was probably Yesterday's Enterprise. I even like it more than BoBW.

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2002-11-24 02:02am

If "Conspiracy" counts as an "action episode", then so does "Survivors". Best frontal salvo in Star Trek history, as the E-D lets loose with 6 torpedoes in a little more than 1 second, plus accompanying phaser fire.

The next salvo, seen from the bridge, seems to suggest that more than one phaser bank was used in the second salvo.

IMO, this was better than Yesterday's Enterprise, whose excellent battle dialogue was unfortunately wasted on the lethargic VFX.

I also really liked the music for "Peak Performance", despite the hideously flawed premise. Come on. Why not use the holodeck, instead of taking the time to make modifications to the ship which can cripple it in a real combat situation?

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2002-11-24 03:26am

The term "action episode" seems quite incompatible with TNG. The more I watch the show in reruns, the more it seems that all they ever did on that show was talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk...

But, of the very few actual action episodes, the best one was definitely "Yesterday's Enterprise", followed by "The Best Of Both Worlds (1)", which also had the best cliffhanger in TNG-era Trek but a disappointing follow-up. "The Arsenal Of Freedom" was a fairly decent entry in terms of action. So was "Contagion", which had the kick-ass opening teaser in which the Yamato blows up in front of the Enterprise. Pity that the writers never took that for the pattern.

Uraniun235 wrote:I also really liked the music for "Peak Performance", despite the hideously flawed premise. Come on. Why not use the holodeck, instead of taking the time to make modifications to the ship which can cripple it in a real combat situation?

Or, if you have to have an actual mock dogfight between starships, why not simply ramp down the phasers to 1/100th power to fire against full shields —like they did with the M5 combat exercise of a century earlier? An adjustment which would have taken five minutes instead of half a day and wouldn't have left the Enterprise so totally vulnerable to Dai'mon Braktor's attack.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2002-11-24 09:20am

If u want action in Trek your better of watching DS9. Sisko isn't a pussy like Picard. Seek our new life and civilisations then have the Defiant blow a hole in their ass

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2002-11-24 09:22am

Ysterday's Enterprise is definitely number 1, it's kind of difficult to think of another episode that even comes close. Maybe the ones about the Klingon Civil War, at least the first one when its starting.

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-11-24 09:27am

Despite the fact that it's Voyager, I enjoyed the sequences with S8472 ships in combat during the 'Scorpion' episodes.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2002-11-24 10:20am

IG-88E wrote:Despite the fact that it's Voyager, I enjoyed the sequences with S8472 ships in combat during the 'Scorpion' episodes.

Agreed. I loathe Voyager and am not to thrilled with S8472 but they blew a lot of shit up in that episode.

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2002-11-24 10:22am

If we're branching out from TNG, then I'd have to go with Sacrifice of Angels. The Wall formation was really impractical, but the ships blowing the crap out of each other was cool.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-11-24 01:44pm

consequences wrote:If we're branching out from TNG, then I'd have to go with Sacrifice of Angels. The Wall formation was really impractical, but the ships blowing the crap out of each other was cool.

Many of the Dominion War episodes, IMO, were worth watching for their battle scenes, but then you get a lot of the episodes where person X and person Y are stranded in a closet/planet/runabout/whatever and talk for the rest of the episode.

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2002-11-24 04:33pm

Master of Ossus wrote:
consequences wrote:If we're branching out from TNG, then I'd have to go with Sacrifice of Angels. The Wall formation was really impractical, but the ships blowing the crap out of each other was cool.
Many of the Dominion War episodes, IMO, were worth watching for their battle scenes, but then you get a lot of the episodes where person X and person Y are stranded in a closet/planet/runabout/whatever and talk for the rest of the episode.

All battles in Season 7 weren't worth watching. They're the same footage played again and again

Post by **Vympel** » 2002-11-26 11:30am

You're joking. They *re-used* footage!?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-11-26 01:52pm

If they did, please tell me that it wasn't to the extent used in Battlestar Galactica...

Lord Sauron-Tyranus-Vader · Post by **Lord Sauron-Tyranus-Vader** » 2002-11-26 10:29pm

Does TNG even have action?
I bough the DVD set today and I fell asleep watching it....
It was suprising too, cosidering the volume was alll the way up.

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2002-11-30 11:00pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:If they did, please tell me that it wasn't to the extent used in Battlestar Galactica...

Probably not, but it was still pretty bad.

Also, the big battles in DS9 sucked John Ashcroft's flaccid cock. It's too messy; it's all one big clusterfuck, and they move the camera around too much to really focus on anything.

The ships also have pathetic durability (HELLO?!? WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO THE GODDAMN SHIELDS?!?) and it just sucks ass to see starships biting it after one or two hits. Except the Defiant. They apparently figured out how to input the "godmode" cheat on that stupid little ship. I say stupid because the goddamn bridge damn near blew up every time they took a hit. (and HOW does O'Brien take a hit on the bridge that puts him out of action when there's been no hull breach? That miraculously ignores every other bridge character?)

No, the DS9 battles completely sucked ass. They were pretty eyecandy, but that was it.

MirrorUniverseSpy1 · Post by **MirrorUniverseSpy1** » 2002-11-30 11:45pm

Yes, I recall Season 7 of DS9 using the same battle shots. Two that
I can recall are 3 BOP taking a sharp turn and charging downward,
and a Jem Hadar ship shooting a beam upward through the saucer
section of a Fed ship, the Fed ship then explodes.

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2002-12-01 12:14am

MirrorUniverseSpy1 wrote:Yes, I recall Season 7 of DS9 using the same battle shots.

Even worse —the Big Climatic Battle in the series finale, "What You Leave Behind" was nothing but stock footage.

Post by **Vympel** » 2002-12-01 12:36am

That's awful ...