Major incident occuring on the London Underground.

Bounty · Post by **Bounty** » 2005-07-07 08:17am

What do you think the respose will be from the Lib Dems and other left wing parties now? Will their position on Iraq now have to change in response to public outrage?

What does this attack have to do with Iraq ?

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2005-07-07 08:18am

18-Till-I-Die wrote:Some guy, i think on either CNN or Fox i cant look around to tell for sure, is talking...he says he saw like a bus blown open and people were laying out on the street...says he couldnt tell if they were alive or dead.

What kind of bomb can rip a bus in two!?

A couple of kilos of C4 is more than enough. Though as that is a controlled substance, SEMTEX would be the right material, practically a copy of C4. A briefcase full of the stuff would easily take out a whole tube train, letalone a double-decker or other road vehicle.

The reports are saying this was likely a sleeper cell, not some guys coming over for this event and just dropping off some parcels around the capital.

18-Till-I-Die · Post by **18-Till-I-Die** » 2005-07-07 08:18am

Tiger Ace wrote:
18-Till-I-Die wrote:Some guy, i think on either CNN or Fox i cant look around to tell for sure, is talking...he says he saw like a bus blown open and people were laying out on the street...says he couldnt tell if they were alive or dead.

What kind of bomb can rip a bus in two!?
Hmn..local explosives here can do that, have done that.
To be honest, compared to stuff here, that bus hit was a firecracker.

Really? Jesus.

I imagined...i mean with all the metal, a bomb would have to be...i dont know i imagined like a small missile. To take out a whole bus like that, just tear it in two like a tin can.

Overestimating i guess.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2005-07-07 08:18am

Jason von Evil wrote:
Admiral Valdemar wrote:Whoever they are, they made a big mistake. They've once again sowed solid resolution rather than fear and disarray now.
They shall learn that the lion still has quite a few teeth left and why one eighth of the world once swore alliegence to the Kingdom.

God save the Queen.

Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind. 18-til, 2-deckers aren't terribly sturdy. A medium suicide-bomb could pop the top off.

Ubiquitous · Post by **Ubiquitous** » 2005-07-07 08:18am

Oh God ... rescuers had to walk through the carriages and step over all the dead bodies, it has been confirmed.

How horrible must the SAR job be? They are very brave.

Imperial Overlord · Post by **Imperial Overlord** » 2005-07-07 08:18am

You can drive westerners out by killing people in a foreign country, but you kill people in a western country and you piss us off. Remember 9/11? Everyone and his dog was onside to jump on Afghanistan.

Ubiquitous · Post by **Ubiquitous** » 2005-07-07 08:19am

Bounty wrote:
What do you think the respose will be from the Lib Dems and other left wing parties now? Will their position on Iraq now have to change in response to public outrage?
What does this attack have to do with Iraq ?

Some people may claim that is we hadn't have attacked Iraq then these attacks may not have happened.

Tiger Ace · Post by **Tiger Ace** » 2005-07-07 08:19am

18-Till-I-Die wrote:
Really? Jesus.

I imagined...i mean with all the metal, a bomb would have to be...i dont know i imagined like a small missile. To take out a whole bus like that, just tear it in two like a tin can.

Overestimating i guess.

As Vald says, its not alot of matirial, though it was on the upper deck, so atleast the bus didn't go up in flames. Stuff here is usually exploded upfront to hit the engine.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2005-07-07 08:19am

Damn!

It is with great shock that I say:

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!

Post by **weemadando** » 2005-07-07 08:19am

Jason von Evil wrote:
Admiral Valdemar wrote:Whoever they are, they made a big mistake. They've once again sowed solid resolution rather than fear and disarray now.
They shall learn that the lion still has quite a few teeth left and why one eighth of the world once swore alliegence to the Kingdom.

God save the Queen. :)

By the end of this its going to be: Rule fucking Britannia, for Britannia has reformed the old Palestinian and other Middle Eastern colonies...

Dark · Post by **Dark** » 2005-07-07 08:21am

They shall learn that the lion still has quite a few teeth left and why one eighth of the world once swore alliegence to the Kingdom.

God save the Queen.

God save the Queen

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2005-07-07 08:21am

ALI_G wrote:What do you think the respose will be from the Lib Dems and other left wing parties now? Will their position on Iraq now have to change in response to public outrage? Or will Labour take a hit as people blame this on our support for Bush and his policies?

I don't think so. Iraq was still a mistake, and we all hated terrotists before then, so...

kheegster · Post by **kheegster** » 2005-07-07 08:22am

ALI_G wrote:What do you think the respose will be from the Lib Dems and other left wing parties now? Will their position on Iraq now have to change in response to public outrage? Or will Labour take a hit as people blame this on our support for Bush and his policies?

I have serious doubts that this would have happened if Blair hadn't went into Iraq against the opinions of both his own party and the majority of the population. The question is: how many people think the same?

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2005-07-07 08:22am

This may be dumb, but does anyone have a screencap of Blair with all of the G8 leaders standing behind him? I want one.

Tiger Ace · Post by **Tiger Ace** » 2005-07-07 08:23am

CaptainChewbacca wrote:This may be dumb, but does anyone have a screencap of Blair with all of the G8 leaders standing behind him? I want one.

Your not the only one.

Ubiquitous · Post by **Ubiquitous** » 2005-07-07 08:23am

How will Blair get to London? Will it be chopper? If so how long would it take?

Archaic` · Post by **Archaic`** » 2005-07-07 08:23am

weemadando wrote:Shit - BBC website appears to be slashdotted. Trying to find a good shot of the G8 leaders at that speech... I cannot emphasise enough how fucking scary they all looked.

Image Here

Tiger Ace · Post by **Tiger Ace** » 2005-07-07 08:24am

ALI_G wrote:How will Blair get to London? Will it be chopper? If so how long would it take?

Chopper.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2005-07-07 08:26am

His Chinook is taking-off now. He should be back within a couple of hours.

Dark · Post by **Dark** » 2005-07-07 08:26am

the most powerful people in the world and thay look pissed. i'd hate to be the people who did this.

18-Till-I-Die · Post by **18-Till-I-Die** » 2005-07-07 08:28am

Stupid question: What was happening at the G8? Why would it be a target?

Tiger Ace · Post by **Tiger Ace** » 2005-07-07 08:29am

Police officials..get your facts straight, witnesses say they were told to quickly leave stations, that there was a bomb, not that there was no warning.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2005-07-07 08:29am

I know I am almost starting to sound like Shep or something, but this is almost making me think that it seriously would be a good idea to quarantine all Muslims...

Bounty · Post by **Bounty** » 2005-07-07 08:29am

18-Till-I-Die wrote:Stupid question: What was happening at the G8? Why would it be a target?

Euhm - the leaders of the most powerful nations in the world together in one place

Ubiquitous · Post by **Ubiquitous** » 2005-07-07 08:29am

I have an odd idea... I wonder if an agreement by the G8 is now more likely after this terrorist attack? Almost as if the G8 want to show a unified front against terrorism and thus will agree to unite against poverty?

If so, then at least some good will have come from this. If not ... then it has been an absolute disaster.