Major incident occuring on the London Underground.

Siege · Post by **Siege** » 2005-07-07 08:29am

Talks about combatting global warming and African relief, I think.

kheegster · Post by **kheegster** » 2005-07-07 08:29am

18-Till-I-Die wrote:Stupid question: What was happening at the G8? Why would it be a target?

The leaders of the 8 most powerful and riches countries in the world gathering for a conference. I'd say that's a mighty juicy target for Tango.

Imperial Overlord · Post by **Imperial Overlord** » 2005-07-07 08:30am

18-Till-I-Die wrote:Stupid question: What was happening at the G8? Why would it be a target?

Leaders of the the 8 wealthiest nations in the world and Russia, meeting with the leaders of other nations and Kofi Anan on strategies to combat world poverty.

zippy · Post by **zippy** » 2005-07-07 08:33am

kheegan wrote:
ALI_G wrote:What do you think the respose will be from the Lib Dems and other left wing parties now? Will their position on Iraq now have to change in response to public outrage? Or will Labour take a hit as people blame this on our support for Bush and his policies?
I have serious doubts that this would have happened if Blair hadn't went into Iraq against the opinions of both his own party and the majority of the population. The question is: how many people think the same?

That is kind of irrelevant,however. I think Iraq was a mistake, I still do and will continue to denounce it as a mistake. Having said that, this is a different issue and fully expect Al Quaida to experience the same outcome as the INLA did after the Mountbatten assassination.

Also, please note, in the UK it is not just the left wing liberals who disagreed with the war in Iraq. I am a Thatcherite

Ubiquitous · Post by **Ubiquitous** » 2005-07-07 08:33am

Bush is making a statement now - he 'appreciates' Blairs strength in going to London. Bush in talks with American homeland security. Be 'extra vigilant' in America. 'Vivid' difference between G8 people trying to stop poverty and in London terrorists killing innocent people.

18-Till-I-Die · Post by **18-Till-I-Die** » 2005-07-07 08:33am

Well, the leaders of the most powerful and wealthy nations on Earth and now rightfully pissed so...someone is going to be paying up for this shit.

Post by **weemadando** » 2005-07-07 08:33am

Seriously, what fucking terrorist mastermind thought it would be a good idea to crap in the UKs backyard when all the fucking leaders of the G8 are standing around ready to be pissed off about it as well.

Having them all there to get pissed about it all at once - FUCK...

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2005-07-07 08:34am

18-Till-I-Die wrote:Stupid question: What was happening at the G8? Why would it be a target?

It's less likely that the G-8 was a target in and of itself and more likely that a sleeper cell decided to attack London during the G-8 based on the obvious supposition that with all the British security services focused on protecting the conference, security in London would be weakened.

Ubiquitous · Post by **Ubiquitous** » 2005-07-07 08:35am

weemadando wrote:Seriously, what fucking terrorist mastermind thought it would be a good idea to crap in the UKs backyard when all the fucking leaders of the G8 are standing around ready to be pissed off about it as well.

Having them all there to get pissed about it all at once - FUCK...

Exposure. The worlds media are all in the UK at the moment - it is their attempt at saying that the war on terror is still not over.

Siege · Post by **Siege** » 2005-07-07 08:35am

"We shall prevail, and they shall not." - Tony Blair

That surely sent chills down my spine...

Tiger Ace · Post by **Tiger Ace** » 2005-07-07 08:37am

ALI_G wrote:Bush is making a statement now - he 'appreciates' Blairs strength in going to London. Bush in talks with American homeland security. Be 'extra vigilant' in America. 'Vivid' difference between G8 people trying to stop poverty and in London terrorists killing innocent people.

It was a good speach, no BS, just "be strong".

Post by **weemadando** » 2005-07-07 08:38am

ALI_G wrote:
weemadando wrote:Seriously, what fucking terrorist mastermind thought it would be a good idea to crap in the UKs backyard when all the fucking leaders of the G8 are standing around ready to be pissed off about it as well.

Having them all there to get pissed about it all at once - FUCK...
Exposure. The worlds media are all in the UK at the moment - it is their attempt at saying that the war on terror is still not over.

They could have done that without having people in the first world crapping their pants when they see the looks on the collected faces of 90% of the worlds real militaries commanders in chief... Can you imagine what people in the fucking middle east were thinking when they saw those images? Start digging more bunkers and graves, because they know whats coming...

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2005-07-07 08:39am

London mayor making good speech, I just realized he's stuck in Singopore.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2005-07-07 08:39am

No wonder al-Jazeera is condemning this. If they so much as hinted at this being a good thing, the G8 alone would end their existence.

Ubiquitous · Post by **Ubiquitous** » 2005-07-07 08:40am

I just can't see how this will result in an increase in military action in the ME. We have done all we can - apart from a few British troops in Bashra being harsher on shady looking individuals, I don't see how things will change.

Tiger Ace · Post by **Tiger Ace** » 2005-07-07 08:41am

World outlook, more support from some countries perhaps.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2005-07-07 08:41am

The Archbishop of Canterbury is making a statement now from York.

kheegster · Post by **kheegster** » 2005-07-07 08:41am

Admiral Valdemar wrote:No wonder al-Jazeera is condemning this. If they so much as hinted at this being a good thing, the G8 alone would end their existence.

Everyone seems to be assuming that al-Jazeera is al-Qaeda's mouthpiece. It is not. Their coverage might seem slightly pro-terrorist at times but that's because that's the general opinion in the middle east.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2005-07-07 08:43am

That station has in the past been seen as something of a biased source at times, and they have never outright attacked such incidents like this in the past, even with the WTC attacks even.

Tiger Ace · Post by **Tiger Ace** » 2005-07-07 08:45am

150+ seriously wounded, Official.

Post by **weemadando** » 2005-07-07 08:45am

ALI_G wrote:I just can't see how this will result in an increase in military action in the ME. We have done all we can - apart from a few British troops in Bashra being harsher on shady looking individuals, I don't see how things will change.

You can change a WHOLE helluva lot...

Australia has been debating whether to recommit forces in Afghanistan and continue commitments in Iraq. Consider those commitments confirmed. British numbers will no doubt be bolstered. By the look on Chirac's face there is going to be a decent amount of French action (most likely the DGSE getting down and dirty in North Africa and the Middle East). Putin as previously mentioned looks like he's already ordered the death squads into action. The "two wars" capability which the US military is looking at reinstating just got a MASSIVE boost to Congressional support. JSDF personnel in Iraq aren't going to be going anywhere, despite previous overtones of potential withdrawal...

Its the equivalent of having your balls in the tigers mouth and then pulling its fucking tail. You can bet your fucking house on the fact that the War on Terror (TM) just got a whole new lease of life and a shitload more backing.

Ubiquitous · Post by **Ubiquitous** » 2005-07-07 08:46am

Here is the translated message from AQ claiming responsibility. This was copied from Wikipedia:

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"The Secret Organization Group of Al-Qa'idah of Jihad Organization in Europe (Jama'at al-Tanzim al-Sirri, Tanzim Qa'idat al-Jihad fi Urupa)

In the name of God, the Merciful, the Compassionate, may peace be upon the cheerful one and the dauntless fighter, Prophet Muhammad, God's peace be upon him.

O nation of Islam and nation of Arabism: Rejoice for it is time to take revenge from the British Zionist Crusader government in retaliation for the massacres Britain is committing in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The heroic mujahidin have carried out a blessed raid in London. Britain is now burning with fear, terror and panic in its northern, southern, eastern and western quarters.

We have repeatedly warned the British government and people. We have fulfilled our promise and carried out our blessed military raid in Britain after our mujahidin exerted strenuous efforts over a long period of time to ensure the success of the raid.

We continue to warn the governments of Denmark and Italy and all the Crusader governments that they will be punished in the same way if they do not withdraw their troops from Iraq and Afghanistan. He who warns is excused.

God says: " (O ye who believe!) If ye will aid (the cause of) Allah, He will aid you, and plant your feet firmly."

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2005-07-07 08:49am

Apparently the double decker with the roof gone was a suicide bomb.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2005-07-07 08:49am

Oh look, religious zealots, colour me unsurprised.

Their ignorance and arrogance knows no bounds it seems.

Post by **weemadando** » 2005-07-07 08:49am

Any updates on the reports that the Israeli embassy got a "5 minute warning" on this?