The dramatic nature of the title may be lost in translation. OTOH, these are fundamentalists. As we all know they have no taste, - hell they pepper their statements with "God is great", "God is merciful", Blah blah God" so much that it is a goddamn pain to sift through all of that crap. Why should the names of their organizations be any less overblown and corny?18-Till-I-Die wrote:I mean...i dont know, its that i get this feeling like 'The Secret Jihad of Al-Queda'? WTF? It seems made up like you know, almost mocking.
I have this image of some crazed supremacist militia in my head, laughing that off.
But yes you're right. Probably nothing, just a brain fart.
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Urghh, the police are saying at least 40 dead on the bus alone according to the BBC. Fucking terrorists.
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Damn. And the number of fatalities will no doubt rise due to some of the wounded not making it.ALI_G wrote:Urghh, the police are saying at least 40 dead on the bus alone according to the BBC. Fucking terrorists.
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I thought the same thing. When I first heard the news, I immediately thought that it was an IRA attack. It seems like British Intelligence are hedging their bets on whom to accuse right now, so maybe this is indeed a BS claim of responsibility.18-Till-I-Die wrote:I mean...i dont know, its that i get this feeling like 'The Secret Jihad of Al-Queda'? WTF? It seems made up like you know, almost mocking.
I have this image of some crazed supremacist militia in my head, laughing that off.
But yes you're right. Probably nothing, just a brain fart.
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Here's the story from the BBC about the group claiming responsibility.
Remember everyone, Islam is a religion of peace ... mmmmmkay?BBC wrote:Statement claiming London attacks
The BBC has located an Islamist website that has published a 200-word statement issued by an organisation saying it carried out the London bombings.
The organisation calls itself the Secret Organisation Group of al-Qaeda [literally the base] of Jihad Organisation in Europe.
The group is previously unknown.
The website has previously carried statements purporting to be from al-Qaeda. It is not possible to verify such claims published on the web.
This is the full text of the statement.
In the name of God, the merciful, the compassionate, may peace be upon the cheerful one and undaunted fighter, Prophet Muhammad, God's peace be upon him.
Nation of Islam and Arab nation: Rejoice for it is time to take revenge against the British Zionist Crusader government in retaliation for the massacres Britain is committing in Iraq and Afghanistan. The heroic mujahideen have carried out a blessed raid in London. Britain is now burning with fear, terror and panic in its northern, southern, eastern, and western quarters.
We have repeatedly warned the British Government and people. We have fulfilled our promise and carried out our blessed military raid in Britain after our mujahideen exerted strenuous efforts over a long period of time to ensure the success of the raid.
We continue to warn the governments of Denmark and Italy and all the Crusader governments that they will be punished in the same way if they do not withdraw their troops from Iraq and Afghanistan. He who warns is excused.
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My sympathies for the victims and my hope that the UK government finds the murderers.
I'm sure the SAS would just love to get the bastards.
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Never mind the SAS, any Englishman would love to get their hands on them.
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According to ABC, due to Arabic Translation difficulties, the Al-Qaeda of Jihad in Europe behind this may not even be the same Al-Qaeda that comes from 9/11.
Since it means "The Base of the Jihad In Europe", there are supposedly several Al-Qaeda of Jihad in Europes, and ABC believes the one makign this claim may have made other untrue claims before.
To sum up, nobody has any clue who we need to shoot at yet because an organization named exactly like other organizations that may or may nor be bullshitting has claimed the bombings. Hopefully there'll be a clearup in our intelligence tomorrow.
Since it means "The Base of the Jihad In Europe", there are supposedly several Al-Qaeda of Jihad in Europes, and ABC believes the one makign this claim may have made other untrue claims before.
To sum up, nobody has any clue who we need to shoot at yet because an organization named exactly like other organizations that may or may nor be bullshitting has claimed the bombings. Hopefully there'll be a clearup in our intelligence tomorrow.
There's not been any terror or fear anywhere, they've just made a load of people sad and pissed off.
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I find it bitterly ironic that they refer to god as 'the all merciful, the all compassionate' after they've killed dozens of people. I mean, if they believe that God is like that, and that they are working with his approval, just what the hell do the words 'merciful' and 'compassionate', mean in their happy islamic lalaland?.
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The same as they do for the Christian Old Testament God's. Merciful means "Merciful towards believers". Compassionate means "Smiting all who oppose him."speaker-to-trolls wrote:I find it bitterly ironic that they refer to god as 'the all merciful, the all compassionate' after they've killed dozens of people. I mean, if they believe that God is like that, and that they are working with his approval, just what the hell do the words 'merciful' and 'compassionate', mean in their happy islamic lalaland?.
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So... Al-Qaeda is just as fractured as the Ku Klux Klan?MRDOD wrote:According to ABC, due to Arabic Translation difficulties, the Al-Qaeda of Jihad in Europe behind this may not even be the same Al-Qaeda that comes from 9/11.
Since it means "The Base of the Jihad In Europe", there are supposedly several Al-Qaeda of Jihad in Europes, and ABC believes the one makign this claim may have made other untrue claims before.
To sum up, nobody has any clue who we need to shoot at yet because an organization named exactly like other organizations that may or may nor be bullshitting has claimed the bombings. Hopefully there'll be a clearup in our intelligence tomorrow.
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"Al Quaeda" has become more of an ideology and a rallying call than an actual network. Any asshole islamofacist with a grudge can claim to be a part of it.Peregrin Toker wrote:So... Al-Qaeda is just as fractured as the Ku Klux Klan?MRDOD wrote:According to ABC, due to Arabic Translation difficulties, the Al-Qaeda of Jihad in Europe behind this may not even be the same Al-Qaeda that comes from 9/11.
Since it means "The Base of the Jihad In Europe", there are supposedly several Al-Qaeda of Jihad in Europes, and ABC believes the one makign this claim may have made other untrue claims before.
To sum up, nobody has any clue who we need to shoot at yet because an organization named exactly like other organizations that may or may nor be bullshitting has claimed the bombings. Hopefully there'll be a clearup in our intelligence tomorrow.
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I don't know, I wasn't listening half as hard as I should avhe to the lady talking about it on ABC.Peregrin Toker wrote: So... Al-Qaeda is just as fractured as the Ku Klux Klan?
Either Al-Qaeda is so compartmentalized into cells they compete for claims and don't operate together, or Al-Qaeda is a common enough name for terrorist organizations that several irrelated one share it.
Either way it still means it'll be hard sorting through all of them to find the perpetrators.
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That's a big difference between political and religous terrorism. The politicals are trying to manipulate people, so they try to make people more afraid than angry. Religious fanatics are trying to impress God/Allah/whatever, not people. They don't worry that much about the real effects of their actions.Rye wrote:There's not been any terror or fear anywhere, they've just made a load of people sad and pissed off.
I've heard some claims that "Al-Qaeda" is really more of a terrorist brand name or even a myth, not a real organization.Peregrin Toker wrote:So... Al-Qaeda is just as fractured as the Ku Klux Klan?
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There was a radio program I was listening too and they were interviewing an army major who runs a website called {First name that I can’t remembers} armies.Peregrin Toker wrote:So... Al-Qaeda is just as fractured as the Ku Klux Klan?MRDOD wrote:According to ABC, due to Arabic Translation difficulties, the Al-Qaeda of Jihad in Europe behind this may not even be the same Al-Qaeda that comes from 9/11.
Since it means "The Base of the Jihad In Europe", there are supposedly several Al-Qaeda of Jihad in Europes, and ABC believes the one makign this claim may have made other untrue claims before.
To sum up, nobody has any clue who we need to shoot at yet because an organization named exactly like other organizations that may or may nor be bullshitting has claimed the bombings. Hopefully there'll be a clearup in our intelligence tomorrow.
Any ways he was saying that Al-Qaeda dose not do direct terrorism any more but acts more as a consultant. They will give funds, training, adviser etc to there afflicted groups (which is what the Europe group is meant to be) and general be the “god fathers” of terrorism.
Al-Qaeda is not and I will repeat NOT a world spanning organization with tentacles going down to the lowest levels.
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