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Deep Impact reveals comet "dustier" than thought

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Now that the fireworks are over, scientists are sorting through what was learned from the Deep Impact collision with Comet Tempel 1 on July 4.

"It looks like we got a pretty good pop," Pete Schultz from Brown University told SPACE.com yesterday.

Although Deep Impact's 820-pound impactor struck the comet's surface at approximately a 25-degree angle, it was still able to kick up an impressive plume of dust.

The preliminary images and data indicate the comet has a cratered surface that is too soft to be made of ice, once thought to be the main component of comets. The impactor-induced crater was not visible directly due to the thick cloud of dust, but researchers estimate it to be at least 330 feet (100 meters) wide.

"The major surprise was the opacity of the plume the impactor created and the light it gave off," said Michael A'Hearn of the University of Maryland. "That suggests the dust excavated from the comet's surface was extremely fine, more like talcum powder than beach sand."

Hot vapor containing water and carbon dioxide was detected by Deep Impact's flyby instrument. Researchers continue to comb through the mountains of data looking for other comet ingredients, while space- and ground-based telescopes monitor the collision aftermath from afar.

Wakeup call

At 1:52 a.m. Eastern time, July 4, the impactor smashed into the 3-mile by 7-mile comet at a speed of 6.3 miles per second (23,000 mph). The impact excavated many thousands of tons of material.

The amount of dust seems to indicate that the comet is not held together very tightly. This might seem surprising, but it is not unreasonable for gravity to keep together a loose powder ball, scientists say.

"You have to think of it in the context of its environment," Schultz said. "This city-sized object is floating around in a vacuum. The only time it gets bothered is when the Sun cooks it a little or someone slams an 820-pound wakeup call at it at 23,000 mph."

Deep Impact's collision "woke up" the large dust plume, as well as some gases, including water vapor, carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide. Some hydrocarbons were also detected, according to Schultz.

One of the primary goals of Deep Impact is to determine the first building blocks of the solar system, primordial material believed to be still locked up inside comets. Schultz said that there is much more data to go through to see if indeed the crater coughed up some of this pristine stuff.

Snowball's chance

Water is a key ingredient to comet theories. Scientists originally called comets "dirty snowballs," but recent evidence of a dearth of water has made snowy dirtballs seem more appropriate.

Measurements from the Submillimeter Wave Astronomy Satellite (SWAS) recorded only about 550 pounds of water per second from the comet surface. This emission was similar to what was seen by SWAS before the collision.

"It's pretty clear that this event did not produce a gusher," said Gary Melnick of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics. "The more optimistic predictions for water output from the impact haven't materialized, at least not yet."

The interior of a comet is partly frozen, but water vapor and other gases evaporate off of a comet due to heat from the Sun. This emission is what gives some comets a tail.

A comet like Tempel 1, which has a short orbital period of 5.68 years, has been baked by the Sun many, many times. Its outer edge was expected to be dry down to three feet, but if little water is detected, this dry zone will need to be extended theoretically deeper.

Schultz, however, thinks it is premature to say what the water content is. He thinks the only thing that can be said for sure is that Tempel 1 is not an ice cube. Observers are waiting to see if more gases might get expelled from the comet's new crater.

Swift X-ray delay

Besides SWAS, other telescopes of all sizes and wavelengths recorded the event, augmenting the 4,500 images from the Deep Impact spacecrafts.

One of these extra sets of eyes is the Swift space telescope, whose main purpose is to hunt for gamma ray bursts.

"Swift is only doing this on its spare time – taking off time from its day job," said Paul O'Brien of the Swift team at the University of Leicester.

Swift has observed ultraviolet light from the collision, and over this past weekend the telescope spotted a 10-fold increase in X-rays, which come from the interaction of solar wind particles and the ejected material from the comet, O'Brien explained to SPACE.com.

"Prior to its rendezvous with the Deep Impact probe, the comet was a rather dim X-ray source," O'Brien said. "How things change when you ram a comet with a copper probe traveling over 20,000 mph."

The X-rays showed up about four days after the collision. The reason for this delay is that the comet is surrounded by a boundary layer – called the cometopause – which the solar wind cannot penetrate. This is similar to the Earth's magnetopause, but the comet's protective shield is due to gas pressure rather than a magnetic field.

It was not until the comet material passed the cometopause – several thousands of miles out from the comet – that the solar wind could excite it to emit X-rays. From the length of delay, scientists can rectify the size of cometopause with how fast material was blasted off the surface.

The Swift team will also be able to determine the amount of material excavated from the comet from the X-ray emission, which apparently peaked on July 9. With the data collected so far, O'Brien estimates that several tens of thousands of tons of material were liberated by the collision.

Not goodbye

Tempel 1 has now separated itself from the flyby spacecraft by many million of miles, as it heads out away from the Sun. Any additional data will have to come from on or near Earth.

The comet makes its closest approach to the Sun (1.5 times the distance between the Earth and Sun) every five and a half years, so followup observations may detect long-term changes that will give astronomers more insight into these dusty travelers.

"We'll just have to watch," Schultz said.
I'm not too surprised by the consistency of the dust that was kicked up, although I find it interesting that there was less ice than predicted. I wonder if it's possible that the impactor either hit a large dust patch, or if the comet was drier than others. It could be that all comets are like this.
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If that 6 mile/s velocity figure is relative to the comet rather than Earth, then this would mean the impactor carried roughly 19 GJ of kinetic energy. Not bad to carve out a 100 metre wide crater with that; I guess the comet really was kind of soft.
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It'll most certainly help plan for the Rosetta mission's planned landing on Churyumov-Gerasimenko, and perhaps any plans for landing a small rover onto a comet. It may be that escape velocity won't be the only problem. Traction will be a bitch with material of that consistency.
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This does have implications for the idea of deflecting an incoming comet with a nuke.
The amount of dust seems to indicate that the comet is not held together very tightly. This might seem surprising, but it is not unreasonable for gravity to keep together a loose powder ball, scientists say.


The flimsier comets are, the more likely a nuke is to just break it into pieces instead of deflecting it. IIRC that was always one of the major concerns with the nuke defense plan against comets/asteroids.
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Here's where I may very well display my ignorance of science.

If a nuke does indeed break up an asteroid on its way to earth, the surface area of the asteriod would increase. That would mean that the chunks of asteroid would be more severely affected by friction upon re-entry than one solid mass, or so I would guess. Of course, that would depend on how high up the asteroid is when it's hit; I can certainly understand that breaking it up just before it's about to hit wouldn't do any good. And if a sufficiently big asteroid came then even one of the seperate chunks might be enough to cause extinction. Not a pleasant thought.

More on topic, it's too bad we can't closely examine more comets to find out if this one was typical. Then again, given the result of the impact, perhaps the infrequency of comets like this striking the earth is a good thing...
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Das_Boot wrote:If a nuke does indeed break up an asteroid on its way to earth, the surface area of the asteriod would increase. That would mean that the chunks of asteroid would be more severely affected by friction upon re-entry than one solid mass, or so I would guess. Of course, that would depend on how high up the asteroid is when it's hit; I can certainly understand that breaking it up just before it's about to hit wouldn't do any good. And if a sufficiently big asteroid came then even one of the seperate chunks might be enough to cause extinction. Not a pleasant thought.
All the potential energy of the asteroid would still end up hitting earth; did you catch the Shoemaker-Levy impact on Jupiter a few years ago ? The comet broke up, and the resulting chunks hit one after another. Even if the pieces vaporize, remember Tunguska : whatever did that never reached the suface.

Remember, what does the real damage is the sheer kinetic energy of the comet's/asteroids mass hitting the planet. A loose collection of chunks will hit almost as hard. The ideal is for the asteroid to be knocked aside as a unit; if it's too flimsy, a nuke may be too brute-force to work.
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The nuke, if hitting a comet or 'roid that is made from smaller flying rocks in formation, would be mostly useless. The shockwave would be dissipated much like sound in a foam lattice and even the idea of putting an engine on the rock would be difficult unless it could contain all the other pieces and avoid fragments hitting off target.
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Lord of the Abyss wrote:Remember, what does the real damage is the sheer kinetic energy of the comet's/asteroids mass hitting the planet. A loose collection of chunks will hit almost as hard. The ideal is for the asteroid to be knocked aside as a unit; if it's too flimsy, a nuke may be too brute-force to work.
Ah, so that's how it would work. Thanks for the info; I admit I haven't studied that sort of thing too closely. It sounds like another method would have to be used, though I'm not entirely sure what that would be. That having been said, I think further discussion of that might be pulling this thread off-topic.
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Lord of the Abyss wrote:
Das_Boot wrote:If a nuke does indeed break up an asteroid on its way to earth, the surface area of the asteriod would increase. That would mean that the chunks of asteroid would be more severely affected by friction upon re-entry than one solid mass, or so I would guess. Of course, that would depend on how high up the asteroid is when it's hit; I can certainly understand that breaking it up just before it's about to hit wouldn't do any good. And if a sufficiently big asteroid came then even one of the seperate chunks might be enough to cause extinction. Not a pleasant thought.
All the potential energy of the asteroid would still end up hitting earth; did you catch the Shoemaker-Levy impact on Jupiter a few years ago ? The comet broke up, and the resulting chunks hit one after another. Even if the pieces vaporize, remember Tunguska : whatever did that never reached the suface.

Remember, what does the real damage is the sheer kinetic energy of the comet's/asteroids mass hitting the planet. A loose collection of chunks will hit almost as hard. The ideal is for the asteroid to be knocked aside as a unit; if it's too flimsy, a nuke may be too brute-force to work.
All the kinetic energy may be transfered to the earth, but far less of it would be put into making deforming the surface.

Enough large objects, not necessarily nuclear ones, could knock a fair bit of the mass into a trajectory that would make a lot of the matter either not hit the Earth at all or burn up much faster in the atmosphere. It could well save billions of lives, even though it wouldn't stop the thing.
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