[Mikal768]What if the Federation followed Mike's suggestion?

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[Mikal768]What if the Federation followed Mike's suggestion?

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1. Relocate important assets such as supply depots and spare parts stores to "harsh terrain" (ie- the Badlands, the Briar Patch) or asteroid fields within regions of high electromagnetic activity.

2. Decentralize our command and control structure. Disperse the functions of Starfleet Academy into "training camps" scattered throughout Federation territory. Disperse the functions of Starfleet Command into multiple, highly mobile command centres.

3. Declare martial law. Suspend prohibitions against certain types of outlawed activity such as interference in underdeveloped cultures, in order to facilitate the use of their star systems as bases of operation against the Empire.

4. Disperse Special Ops teams throughout Federation territory as well as neighbouring territories and non-aligned systems, each under the independent control of a Section 31 operative with standing orders to disrupt Imperial operations using any means necessary. Suspend normal rules of engagement to permit tactics of guerilla warfare and terrorism, particularly once the Empire begins moving civilian settlers into our territory.
Has anyone actually contemplated how the Federation would fare against the Empire if they carried out Darth Wong's recommendations a few months before the Empire invaded? And if so, has anyone written a fic about it?

And if you could add more suggestions, what would they be? Please no "Develop a religion quickly and pray before kissing their asses goodbye."
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It wouldnt stop them from being conquered but it would make any guerilla action far more effective if not as damaging as the rebellion.
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Sounds cool.

What other advice would you give the the Federation?
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That depends, do you want advice regarding how they could best broker a deal or how they could best resist?

I would think that a peaceful accord at first with the Empire, followed up with years of subterfuge to acquire technology and begin a rebellion, joining up with other subversive elements of the Empire. You get the weapons to fight, and when you do start fighting the Empire isn't going to BDZ planets they already consider their own territory, so that when the battle is over and on the small chance a rebellion does succeed you can actually go home again.
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Working on a way to collapse the wormhole would be one of the top 5 things to do.
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It would be better then maintaining the status quo, but the reality is, with even lone Star Wars fighters having the potential to destroy Star Trek capital ships, space borne guerrilla warfare just won't work. The enormously superior mobility if Imperial forces just makes it all the more hopeless. They just couldn't lose. The only place effective resistance would be able to take place would be on individual planets, and that's not going to accomplish much at all. Especially since the Empire has shown its self-willing to use orbital bombardment to suppress rebellions.
Pcm979 wrote:Working on a way to collapse the wormhole would be one of the top 5 things to do.
What? The wormhole is valueless to the Empire; they can simply use hyperdrive to reach any point in the galaxy they want quickly. Destroying the wormhole would only serve to further reduce the mobility of warp dependent Trek forces, and would totally cut off the highly militarized Dominion from the Federation-Klingon-Romulan axis.
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What? The wormhole is valueless to the Empire; they can simply use hyperdrive to reach any point in the galaxy they want quickly. Destroying the wormhole would only serve to further reduce the mobility of warp dependent Trek forces, and would totally cut off the highly militarized Dominion from the Federation-Klingon-Romulan axis.
I believe he means the wormhole bridging the Trek/Wars galaxies, not the Bajoran wormhole. :wink:
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Sea Skimmer wrote:
Pcm979 wrote:Working on a way to collapse the wormhole would be one of the top 5 things to do.
What? The wormhole is valueless to the Empire; they can simply use hyperdrive to reach any point in the galaxy they want quickly. Destroying the wormhole would only serve to further reduce the mobility of warp dependent Trek forces, and would totally cut off the highly militarized Dominion from the Federation-Klingon-Romulan axis.
I think Pcm979 was refering to the wormhole that connects the two galaxies together, thereby cutting off reinforcements from the SW galaxy.
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That's the one. I know it'd be futile, what with this board concluding that a single SD could wreck the entire Alpha Quadrant, but it's better than nothing.
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Well, the Star Destroyer will eventually run out of fuel and that will stop it, if they haven' made new fueling facilities already.
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They have months? The solution is obvious. Destroy the wormhole NOW, before the Empire finds it.
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Darth Fanboy wrote: the Empire isn't going to BDZ planets they already consider their own territory
Didn't the empire consider Alderann their own territory ?
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Yes, but as Tarkin said they were to be an example. So that other worlds wouldn't rebel thus actually saving worlds from ending up like Alderaan, at least to Tarkin's thinking. So the Feds would be playing the odds: is the world I'm on important enough to be BDZed as an example to others?
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Of course, the wormhole-related suggestions assume that the Star Wars galaxy is in fact so far from our own that they need some freaky wormhole to get here. In some "vs" scenarios, the two galaxies are in close proximity.
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I was under the impression that the closest galaxies would still be years away, even with Hyperdrive.
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Well since the Empire existed "a long time ago in a galaxy far far away" one would think some type of technobabble phenomena involving time travel would be required to connect the Empire to 24th century Earth, hence the wormhole scenario.
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The best bet for the Federation, if it wants to resist, is to surrender and then wait until the Rebellion comes calling. It won't be able to supply ships, but the Rebellion could almost certainly find recruits and get basic supplies like food there. The main problem will be that the wormhole, if it exists, will be an excellent Imperial chokepoint. The Rebellion may not be able to get any ships into the Milky Way, and it certainly won't be able to sneak something like a MonCal through.
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Post by Battlehymn Republic »

Blockade Runners galore, eh?

Just because I'm giving the Federations a few months (could be as few as two), it doesn't mean that the wormhole is necessarily destructible. Remember, this is a specia, series-crossover wormhole, not whatever the hell Voyager tries to destroy each week to delay getting home.
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Darth Fanboy wrote:You get the weapons to fight, and when you do start fighting the Empire isn't going to BDZ planets they already consider their own territory
Um, ahem... the planet Alderaan.
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Imperial Overlord wrote:Well, the Star Destroyer will eventually run out of fuel and that will stop it, if they haven' made new fueling facilities already.
A stardestroyer is powered by a hypermatter reactor. It's not going to run out of fuel anytime soon.
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Patrick Degan wrote:
Darth Fanboy wrote:You get the weapons to fight, and when you do start fighting the Empire isn't going to BDZ planets they already consider their own territory
Um, ahem... the planet Alderaan.
Alderaan was no firend of the Empire. Although officially memeber its two most high ranking political officials were traitors, and Alderaan supported the Rebellion in many ways. Caamaas(sp?) would be another example. although these worlds never took up arms they opposed the Empire in a different way, which was a mistake.
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Darth Fanboy wrote:Alderaan was no firend of the Empire. Although officially memeber its two most high ranking political officials were traitors, and Alderaan supported the Rebellion in many ways. Caamaas(sp?) would be another example. although these worlds never took up arms they opposed the Empire in a different way, which was a mistake.
Correct me if I am wrong, but Caamas was not technically part of the rebellion, nor did the destruction of Caamas deal with the Rebels at all. Also, since the Empire never really took responsiblity for Caamas, Alderaan wasn't necissarily supporting the rebels by harboring Caamasi refugees.

Although Alderaan, was indeed led by those who opposed the Empire.
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Pcm979 wrote:I was under the impression that the closest galaxies would still be years away, even with Hyperdrive.
Given the fact that they can go from a Core System to the Outer Rim in a matter of hours, and the distance from here to Andromeda is only 60 times the diameter of our galaxy, they would hardly need years. If ths galaxy in question was Andromeda (which, at 3 million light years, easily meets the "far, far away" criterion), they would need weeks, not years.

The only real problem would be fuel consumption during the trip, so they would have to modify their vessels for greater fuel capacity (or build tankers for mid-trip refueling).
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In this thread hear http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic. ... 81&start=0

I worked out that it would take 6 and a half days to travel from the Milky Way to the nearest galaxy (its not a real galaxy just a cluster or something). But that uses up most of the hypermatter on board an Acclamator.
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Post by Battlehymn Republic »

Okay, an addition to the OP: suppose you’re a Klingon or Romulan diplomat or analyst who has prepared a report similar to Darth Wong’s strategic evaluation of the Empire. What is your advice for your rulers to do about the threat?

Or, suppose you’re a Borg.
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