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Here's a new one- Borg can come back from the dead

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Starts from my first post

Great for comedy value, that GStone is. Read the whole thing, enjoy.
GStone wrote:Besides, any bullet, either ones that go for penetration or area of damage, are only gonna do so much damage. The borg components heal the drones' bodies. So, once again, it is better to use a phaser. You can come back and vaporize them. Borg healing isn't instantaneous, so you got a little time.
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Pathetic, absolutly pathetic..

If ever there was a time I could reach through the screen and wring some little prick's neck, this would be it.
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So, that makes them vampires, AND zombies. Great.

How about a shotgun that fires wooden stakes, that should put a drone down for good.
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skyman8081 wrote:So, that makes them vampires, AND zombies. Great.

How about a shotgun that fires wooden stakes, that should put a drone down for good.

Pit fight between Buffy and Seven o' Nine....ending in a lesbian orgy....


Voyager might last another 3 seasons with that.
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Jesus Christ, my brain hurts after reading that. No wonder I haven't been to that site in a while. And I thought that Weyoun was a retard. :roll:
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Must be great to arbitrarily invent unlimited capabilities at will. I also like the mentality that "A must be capable of B unless you can prove that B is impossible". Lovely logic.
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Darth Wong wrote:Must be great to arbitrarily invent unlimited capabilities at will. I also like the mentality that "A must be capable of B unless you can prove that B is impossible". Lovely logic.
Almost smacks of Fundie Logic (a contradiction in terms). I wonder how these people function in real life sometimes. :roll:
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I joined that place, but they're so dense you can't convince them of anything (plus I need solid evidence that the Covenant can crush Redshirts, but hey). What you need to do is show him the clip of the Fastshooter. Then man who fires six shots, reloads and fires six shots again in three seconds. The link should still be on the board somewhere, I'll see if I can remember where it was from.
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LMAO...Borg healing, wow I keep forgetting this is why in the first episode in TNG they took parts out to remove such deaths from the collective.

But hey, they can eventually pick themselves up and dust themselves off.
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I've had my fair share of arguments with that moron on another board and he pretty much follows the same pattern. You can literally never win an argument with him because after you destroy all of his points he just starts over and claims a victory once you get tired of responding to the same argument over and over again.
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Ghost Rider wrote:LMAO...Borg healing, wow I keep forgetting this is why in the first episode in TNG they took parts out to remove such deaths from the collective.

But hey, they can eventually pick themselves up and dust themselves off.
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I'm fairly sure this claim comes from when Seven resurrected that anoying bad cook/moral officer they had on Voyager.

Naturally the fucktard leaves out the part about another borg drone is needs to inject the nanoprobes.
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I love the logic that guy uses-
The best way to avoid a blow, or a borg drone's injection tubules, is to not be there. Therefore, you move your ass. Any fighting teacher that never says that is a monumental dumbass. You must have this 'put them on a pedestal' view of 'competent soldier worth his salt'.


Again, what? There's a big differnece between running in abject fear (poor Enterprise-E crewmen in First Contact) and simply moving to another position. In any even, a competent SWAT team or equivalent wouldn't have a Borg come anywhere near them, and would have no reason to give ground.
Apparently, no matter how well trained a soldier is, his only chance of survival against a Borg is to piss in his pants and run like hell. :roll:

Really makes you wonder why they didn't replicate a few dozen bat'leths and let Worf give lessons. Hell, why didn't they just replicate baseball bats? :wink:
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ggs wrote:I'm fairly sure this claim comes from when Seven resurrected that anoying bad cook/moral officer they had on Voyager.
Yeah that is where it comes from. The episode is "Mortal Coil".
VOY Mortal Coil wrote: PARIS: He's dead. No heart beat, no synaptic response, extensive cell damage to his brain.
CHAKOTAY: Try a cortical stimulator.
PARIS: It won't work. His neural pathways were disrupted by the protomatter.
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SEVEN: That's precisely what I'm saying. The Borg have assimilated species with far greater medical knowledge than your own. We are capable of reactivating drones as much as seventy three hours after what you would call death.
So it is a stretch to think that just because the nanoprobes can repair brain damage caused by "protomatter", that they could repair bullet wounds. IIRC, Neelix had no visible physical trauma, or at the most superficial trauma that could be repaired with a dermal regenerator anyway. The seventy-two hours thing could be misleading. For all we know, the people in the shuttle kept Neelix's body in stasis, and so did the Doctor. Since Neelix's body didn't stink, they probably preserved it somehow.

If you wanted to show Borg revive their dead, this is what you would do. Note I am only suggesting a methodology, rather than supporting the idea of Borg reviving their dead (which I do not, so far the evidence is not enough). If you look at the ST:FC credits, they use the same seven Borg over and over. That is out of universe information, so if someone really wanted to prove the Borg revived their dead, they would look for physical similarities between the Borg drones in ST:FC. Of course, that is not easy to do, because Borg drones are standardized and would have standard equipment. If I was to be convinced, I would have to see a fucking screenshot gallery with crystal clear evidence.
Naturally the fucktard leaves out the part about another borg drone is needs to inject the nanoprobes.
I'm not so sure about this, because drones already have nanoprobes floating around in their bloodstream. Nevertheless, the point is that there is no evidence drones come back from the dead.

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For all we know, the people in the shuttle kept Neelix's body in stasis, and so did the Doctor. Since Neelix's body didn't stink, they probably preserved it somehow.
Or Talaxians decay don't decay very fast.
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Augustus Caesar wrote:Really makes you wonder why they didn't replicate a few dozen bat'leths and let Worf give lessons. Hell, why didn't they just replicate baseball bats? :wink:
Well, to be fair to the valiant crewmen of the Enterprise-E, Picard did order "go hand-to-hand", and the security chief had a big cut on his face as if he went hand-to-hand. They probably did use their phaser rifles like baseball bats, but blunt trauma can only go so far and the Borg swing their arms like baseball bats too. Bat'leth's wouldn't have helped, because Bat'leths aren't sharp. They needed swords, or big knives. Or guns.

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I just posted, good lord these fuckers are idiots.
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So the Borg can come back from the dead after being shot from a bullet? Just like they did when Picard took a Tommy Gun and riddled drones full of them? Oh, wait. . .they didn't, did they? Silly me.
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Vympel, every time I read one of those links, my head hurts and I just have to applaud your ability to actually debate them. I like how they argue a holographic bullet, which behaves in every manner like a real bullet, isn't actually a bullet. My God, the loss brain cells is staggering.
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Vicious wrote: My God, the loss brain cells is staggering.


Which wouldn't be a problem if you were a borg. :wink:
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Get a load of this:
Gstone wrote:Kernel, what you responded to me with is not only wrong on so many levels, much of what you responded with is beyond the scope of this thread. Many of your statements can be answered by looking through the threads already posted and the discussions currently going on. So, I would suggest that you read up first. So with you and me on this topic, I'm moving on.
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The latest reply from BigHairyMountainMan made my day-
What physical attacks? The holodeck doesn't qualify. What remains? Blades, fists... low velocity physical attacks. Not kinetic attacks.
Man, I never knew punching somebody was not a kinetic energy attack! I wonder what it is then..... :roll:

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The Kernel wrote:Get a load of this:
Gstone wrote:Kernel, what you responded to me with is not only wrong on so many levels, much of what you responded with is beyond the scope of this thread. Many of your statements can be answered by looking through the threads already posted and the discussions currently going on. So, I would suggest that you read up first. So with you and me on this topic, I'm moving on.
Smells like chicken to me.
That's pretty much a standard response of his. I honestly wouldn't waste my time. I've gotten into arguments with him about shit that is so obvious, yet he will go round and round with you until you just get sick of it and stop.
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Both Hairy and GStone have such poor grasps of basic science that it is absolutely sad to watch them debate.
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