Godzilla durring the Battle of Hoth

Majin Gojira · Post by **Majin Gojira** » 2002-11-25 12:38pm

For some unknown reason, Godzilla (heisei) breaks out of the Ice at the Battle of Hoth. The AT-AT's are approaching. Godzilla is in the Crossfire. What Happens? How many AT-AT does Godzilla slam into the ground? How long until they overpower him?

Evil Sadistic Bastard · Post by **Evil Sadistic Bastard** » 2002-11-25 12:55pm

All AT-ATs converge fire on Godzilla and turn him into a smoking wreck in five seconds.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-11-25 01:17pm

Godzilla might be able to take out 1 or 2, but the AT-ATs would just keep firing till they turn him into a bunch of ash.

Evil Sadistic Bastard · Post by **Evil Sadistic Bastard** » 2002-11-25 01:18pm

Only problem is the heat ray. That could be dangerous.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-11-25 01:49pm

RAAWERE!

*Sounds of a thousand Blaster Shots +hundreds of Lasers shots +20 or So Turbolasers

*spalt!

Very small godzilla cunks

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-11-25 01:53pm

Evil Sadistic Bastard wrote:Only problem is the heat ray. That could be dangerous.

Which is why he might potentially take out one or two if he is in range before they make him their bitch.

Typhonis 1 · Post by **Typhonis 1** » 2002-11-25 02:28pm

Couldnt Big G Push a walker or two over?

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-11-25 02:31pm

Typhonis 1 wrote:Couldnt Big G Push a walker or two over?

He'll have to get next to it before he gets killed.

Shadow WarChief · Post by **Shadow WarChief** » 2002-11-25 03:30pm

neoolong wrote:
Typhonis 1 wrote:Couldnt Big G Push a walker or two over?
He'll have to get next to it before he gets killed.

get next to him? How many heisei Godzilla movies have you seen? All the fights are practically just big beam wars.

Now before I weigh in with my opinion, are there any concrete statistics for the weight of an ATAT?

Majin Gojira · Post by **Majin Gojira** » 2002-11-25 03:49pm

Ok, let me add my 2 cents...

Heisei G can WALK 40mph. a full run is of an unknown speed.

His regenerative powers are awesome, surviving nearly being sliced in two with a cutting laser. his body sealed up almost immediately (due to the speed of the cut).

His armor is also insanely tough (in order to not only survive, but he is able to JERK and THROW 3x his body weight.)

Proposed Outcome: Godzilla destroyes many AT-ATs (at least 7, some merely kicked over/knocked over with his tail, some scortched with his breath) in a hard-fought and bloody battle. the rebbles escape, causing the Empire to cut their losses and retreate (of course, it the sheild is brought down, Godzilla is nuked by TL fire)

Well, we'd have to know the firing rate of the AT-AT's to really be sure, as well as figure out the breath weapon's effectiveness against the AT-AT armor (I don't think a side shot would do much, but the head is another matter). he can easilyt throw these things about. the question is how long he'll last. I say enough time for the rebels to escape.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-11-25 04:46pm

Shadow WarChief wrote:
neoolong wrote:
Typhonis 1 wrote:Couldnt Big G Push a walker or two over?
He'll have to get next to it before he gets killed.
get next to him? How many heisei Godzilla movies have you seen? All the fights are practically just big beam wars.

Now before I weigh in with my opinion, are there any concrete statistics for the weight of an ATAT?

Well if you want to push something over physically, you'll have to get next to it right?

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-11-25 04:58pm

Proposed Outcome: Godzilla destroyes many AT-ATs (at least 7, some merely kicked over/knocked over with his tail, some scortched with his breath) in a hard-fought and bloody battle. the rebbles escape, causing the Empire to cut their losses and retreate (of course, it the sheild is brought down, Godzilla is nuked by TL fire)

Problem is Godzilla is BIG, if he pops up BOTH SIDES will be wailing on him, And consider this the Walkers are Km's apart... Remeber that if he knocks over a walker he has 5-24 Kms to the next one in line

Shadow WarChief · Post by **Shadow WarChief** » 2002-11-25 05:30pm

Heisei Godzilla's breath is mostly KE you know. He wouldn't have to get right up the AT-ATs to knock them down. Just charge up and just sweep the breath across the line of ATATs to knock them down.

What really matters is how strong his breath is, and I've got some figures for it somewhere in my harddirve that I did a few months ago...of course the real issue is what tje effect will beon the ATATs...

Which is why I asked for the mass of the AT-ATs so that I could figure it out.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2002-11-25 06:02pm

He might get one, maybe two AT-AT's or most of the Rebel infantry but then its "target maximum firepower" and Godzilla is quite dead.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-11-25 06:07pm

Shadow WarChief wrote:Heisei Godzilla's breath is mostly KE you know. He wouldn't have to get right up the AT-ATs to knock them down. Just charge up and just sweep the breath across the line of ATATs to knock them down.

What really matters is how strong his breath is, and I've got some figures for it somewhere in my harddirve that I did a few months ago...of course the real issue is what tje effect will beon the ATATs...

Which is why I asked for the mass of the AT-ATs so that I could figure it out.

My understanding of what he said was push physically, not using breath. If that's not it, then you're right.

SylasGaunt · Post by **SylasGaunt** » 2002-11-25 06:22pm

Is this goji before or after he's picked up the Red beam?

Anyway the regeneration factor on Heisei godzilla is just insane (regening the cut from Destoroyah's laser horn as it was made).

The fact an AT-AT is about half his size also gives him a nice shot at their dorsal armor.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-11-25 10:48pm

Godzilla has never used his fire-breath on a target more than a few hundred metres away. Ever. Meanwhile, AT-AT's can unleash a max-firepower shot from as much as 17 kilometres away. Do the math.

And if the first hit doesn't kill him, they're not just going to sit around and wait for him to heal. They can simply blast him repeatedly until he's nothing but dino-spare ribs.

Evil Sadistic Bastard · Post by **Evil Sadistic Bastard** » 2002-11-25 10:50pm

Darth Wong wrote:Godzilla has never used his fire-breath on a target more than a few hundred metres away. Ever. Meanwhile, AT-AT's can unleash a max-firepower shot from as much as 17 kilometres away. Do the math.

And if the first hit doesn't kill him, they're not just going to sit around and wait for him to heal. They can simply blast him repeatedly until he's nothing but dino-spare ribs.

And there's around fifty AT-ATs each of which can laugh off direct gunfore from a heavy turet.

SylasGaunt · Post by **SylasGaunt** » 2002-11-26 01:36am

Of course Heisei Goji's cells are capable of surviving near white and black holes to...

Shadow WarChief · Post by **Shadow WarChief** » 2002-11-26 04:01pm

Darth Wong wrote:Godzilla has never used his fire-breath on a target more than a few hundred metres away. Ever.

Meanwhile, AT-AT's can unleash a max-firepower shot from as much as 17 kilometres away. Do the math.

And if the first hit doesn't kill him, they're not just going to sit around and wait for him to heal. They can simply blast him repeatedly until he's nothing but dino-spare ribs.

Actually, in Godzilla v.s. Destroyah, when Burning Godzilla attacks Hong Kong, he rakes his breath across the coast for about ~1.5 kilometers (estimate)

And in the upcoming film Godzilla X MechaGodzilla, we see a blue beam (presumably Godzilla's breath) blast through several sky scrapers, whichc would be more tha several hundred meters.

You can see the trialer here

It's the quicktime trailer on the top. 4.2 MB

However, this instance should be disregarded since it isn't actually the heisei Godzilla which is in the movie. But does refute your claim that his breath never has a range greater than a few hundred meters.

The only real instance which can be used as a gauge for the range of heisei Godzilla's breath is the Hong Kong example I showed above. Now while it is burning Godzilla that is rampaging through HK, the only difference that the human characters noticed between heisei and burning Godzilla was that it was Heisei Godzilla with a much more powerful breath weapon.

as for whether or not full power ATAT blasts will be able to kill him, I don't really know the power of a full ATAT blast so I can't really form an opinion.

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman · Post by **Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman** » 2002-11-26 09:06pm

Shadow WarChief wrote: However, this instance should be disregarded since it isn't actually the heisei Godzilla which is in the movie. But does refute your claim that his breath never has a range greater than a few hundred meters.

But it doesn't refute the fact that AT-AT greatly outranges Godzilla.

Evil Sadistic Bastard · Post by **Evil Sadistic Bastard** » 2002-11-26 09:42pm

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman wrote:
Shadow WarChief wrote: However, this instance should be disregarded since it isn't actually the heisei Godzilla which is in the movie. But does refute your claim that his breath never has a range greater than a few hundred meters.
But it doesn't refute the fact that AT-AT greatly outranges Godzilla.

Yup, that info, while greatly enlightening, doesn't save Godzilla from becoming a suitcase.

Shogoki · Post by **Shogoki** » 2002-11-27 02:01am

About the mass of the AT-AT, i found this post in ASVS from Thelea:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&l ... com#link37

If it truly weights close to 2000 tones, and most of those are on the feet, knocking them over may not be easy even for Godzilla.

SylasGaunt · Post by **SylasGaunt** » 2002-11-27 02:32am

Considering Godzilla was able to lift and throw the 150,000 ton mechagodzilla.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2002-11-27 10:52pm

There's nothing on Hoth to destroy, and powerful AT-AT cannons concentrated on him deep-fry him. Still, if given enough time, Godzilla could easily throw the AT-ATs around. But what good would that do?