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Mr Bean wrote:Verilon my post is a what if, That is stated as what Rand CAN do, but to have him acutal do it makes it hard to write the books after the fact
Then why bother? It is not true, he would not blow up cities. It's been done to him before, with Aviendha in the Waste.
What with there only being one main charater and all
He may be *the* main character, but in the 5th book he is hardly there, with Nynaeve and Elayne taking over practically the frst half of the book.
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Nobody has mentioned the effect of the flaw in Callandor yet, Rand literally thinks he is a god when he uses it.


mmmmmm Callandor powered balefire.
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Luke Starkiller wrote:Nobody has mentioned the effect of the flaw in Callandor yet, Rand literally thinks he is a god when he uses it.


mmmmmm Callandor powered balefire.
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The battle begins.. only to have Rand killed by a meteor Eldrad nudged onto a precise course to impact his head some 500 years ago :)
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SylasGaunt wrote:The battle begins.. only to have Rand killed by a meteor Eldrad nudged onto a precise course to impact his head some 500 years ago :)
How true. :twisted:
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Luke Starkiller wrote:Nobody has mentioned the effect of the flaw in Callandor yet, Rand literally thinks he is a god when he uses it.


mmmmmm Callandor powered balefire.
Callandor did not power balefire. Rand does that himself, through saidin. (Read: The Eye of the World).
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Technically Callandor DOES, because it provides a greater bandwidth of power for Rand to draw on. So a Callandor powered balefire would exist because Rand uses the extra channeling capacity of Callandor.
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Evil Sadistic Bastard wrote:Technically Callandor DOES, because it provides a greater bandwidth of power for Rand to draw on. So a Callandor powered balefire would exist because Rand uses the extra channeling capacity of Callandor.
Callandor is a sa'angreal. It only focuses saidin, it does not wield it itself.
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Mr Bean wrote:Rabbit I think you misunderstand how close to completly fucking looney Al'Thor is

IE typical battle with Al'Thor with him fighting Trollocs

Rand:Ok I'll just be slicing up these Trollocs here
Crazy Tainted Rand Half:Noooo much better BLOW UP THE ENTIRE FUCKING MOUNTIAN UNDER THEM bwhahahhah!
Rand:That would be overkil
Crazy Rand:EXACLTY! Do iit Dooo it Doo it!
Rand:Shut up!
Crazy Rand:You know you want to BLOW IT ALL UP, CRUSH THIER BONES AND BURN THIER HIDES TO CINDERS!


Typical al'Thor interal stuggle, He's is This <--> far from going nuts and doing shit like that on a DAILY BASES let alone in a serious live threatening battle



However the Hand-Waving Decptation might work but somehow I don't think Randy boy will let him get that close
Im perfectly aware of how loony Rand is, Ive actually slogged my way through the books..

which do tend to stress that a guy with Staff will smack down a guy with a Blade :twisted: :wink:


Hell Eldar dosent even need to be close enough to kill Rand physically,


He just projects himself forward( eldar pschic powers rule!) and decaps the nutter :d
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Evil Sadistic Bastard wrote: How true. :twisted:
Big chaos supporter I may be (hail lord Slaanesh!) but just how far ahead that friggin' space elf plans is scary.
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Yep he plans ahead, some of his plans go back to before the birth of the Imperium of Man, and still havn't been fully played out!! Now thats advance planning...

Ladies and gentleman the true answer not a meteor Eldred asks a Navigator to show up, and show Rand his Third Eye, the Navigator leaves with a shiny Gold Coin Eldred laughs.
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Skelron wrote:Yep he plans ahead, some of his plans go back to before the birth of the Imperium of Man, and still havn't been fully played out!! Now thats advance planning...

Ladies and gentleman the true answer not a meteor Eldred asks a Navigator to show up, and show Rand his Third Eye, the Navigator leaves with a shiny Gold Coin Eldred laughs.
That made SO much sense....:roll:
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verilon wrote:
Skelron wrote:Yep he plans ahead, some of his plans go back to before the birth of the Imperium of Man, and still havn't been fully played out!! Now thats advance planning...

Ladies and gentleman the true answer not a meteor Eldred asks a Navigator to show up, and show Rand his Third Eye, the Navigator leaves with a shiny Gold Coin Eldred laughs.
That made SO much sense....:roll:
Farseer, it is revealed that at least one navigator Family owes The Eldar, through Eldred majour league favours. Stretching back to before the Emporer emerged on Earth. The Elkdar can call in these favours by giving a Navigator of the House in question a special Coin, there are seven of these coins that relate to this debt... So far 5 have been traded in, (Number 6 is the price of the Navigator's aid in the book.) The Coins repersent to the family a lot, so far no one has ever came back from repaying this debt, and faimily consider's this a fair exchange, they will do anything to repay this deb.

The older GW books, revealed that showing the third eye o a Navigator to any human not a navigator ment instant Death... and since this debt is a resource that Eldred can call up on, being the guy who gained it in the first place, and whose name is a part of the ceremony to recognise that the recalling of the debt is regit....
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Skelron wrote:
verilon wrote:
Skelron wrote:Yep he plans ahead, some of his plans go back to before the birth of the Imperium of Man, and still havn't been fully played out!! Now thats advance planning...

Ladies and gentleman the true answer not a meteor Eldred asks a Navigator to show up, and show Rand his Third Eye, the Navigator leaves with a shiny Gold Coin Eldred laughs.
That made SO much sense....:roll:
Farseer, it is revealed that at least one navigator Family owes The Eldar, through Eldred majour league favours. Stretching back to before the Emporer emerged on Earth. The Elkdar can call in these favours by giving a Navigator of the House in question a special Coin, there are seven of these coins that relate to this debt... So far 5 have been traded in, (Number 6 is the price of the Navigator's aid in the book.) The Coins repersent to the family a lot, so far no one has ever came back from repaying this debt, and faimily consider's this a fair exchange, they will do anything to repay this deb.

The older GW books, revealed that showing the third eye o a Navigator to any human not a navigator ment instant Death... and since this debt is a resource that Eldred can call up on, being the guy who gained it in the first place, and whose name is a part of the ceremony to recognise that the recalling of the debt is regit....
Okay, but next time, can you try to put it a little more in context, please? Thanks.
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Skelron wrote:
verilon wrote:
Skelron wrote:Yep he plans ahead, some of his plans go back to before the birth of the Imperium of Man, and still havn't been fully played out!! Now thats advance planning...

Ladies and gentleman the true answer not a meteor Eldred asks a Navigator to show up, and show Rand his Third Eye, the Navigator leaves with a shiny Gold Coin Eldred laughs.
That made SO much sense....:roll:
Farseer, it is revealed that at least one navigator Family owes The Eldar, through Eldred majour league favours. Stretching back to before the Emporer emerged on Earth. The Elkdar can call in these favours by giving a Navigator of the House in question a special Coin, there are seven of these coins that relate to this debt... So far 5 have been traded in, (Number 6 is the price of the Navigator's aid in the book.) The Coins repersent to the family a lot, so far no one has ever came back from repaying this debt, and faimily consider's this a fair exchange, they will do anything to repay this deb.

The older GW books, revealed that showing the third eye o a Navigator to any human not a navigator ment instant Death... and since this debt is a resource that Eldred can call up on, being the guy who gained it in the first place, and whose name is a part of the ceremony to recognise that the recalling of the debt is regit....
TRANSLATION:

This comes from the novel Farseer. It is known that at least one Navigator (a mutant offshoot of human that has psychic powers optimized for guiding ships through the Warp) is greatly indebted to Eldrad and thus the Eldar. This debt goes waaay back, before the advent of the Emperor.

The Eldar can call in a debt by giving the Navigator of the House a special Coin, and there are seven coins related to this. So far 5 have been traded in, (Number 6 is the price of the Navigator's aid in the book.) The Coins mean a lot to the families. So far no one has ever came back from repaying this debt, and since the families still consider this a fair exchange, it is only a small leap to conclude they will do anything to repay this debt.

The older GW books, revealed that showing the third eye o a Navigator to any human not a navigator ment instant Death... and since this debt is a resource that Eldred can call up on, being the guy who gained it in the first place, and whose name is a part of the ceremony to recognise that the recalling of the debt is regit....

The older GW books, revealed that showing the third eye of a Navigator to any human not a Navigator meant instant death...

Also, Eldrad is entitled to use this resource becasue he gained it in the first place.

( I just translate, I don't advocate)
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