Force Sub Winter 1941, Siege Tanks vs Russian Frontline Tank

[HemlockGrey]

The 'tank vs mech' thread with a twist.

The Panzer corp has everyone of their tanks replaced with Arclite Siege Tanks(from Starcraft), complete with Shock Cannons. The Russian forces are composed primarily of T-90's.

Fight!

[Evil Sadistic Bastard]

Siege tanks win. Combo artillery pieces and driect fire weapons. Siege tank also seems more maneuverable than normal tanks.

[Vympel]

We need Siege tank calcs to determine dis one methinks.

[Mr Bean]

Seige Tanks supposdly fire Low End Nuclear Bursts(Ie .5 Kiloton)

If that does not fork up T-90s I don't know what will

[Evil Sadistic Bastard]

Seige Tanks supposdly fire Low End Nuclear Bursts(Ie .5 Kiloton)

If that does not fork up T-90s I don't know what will

It's a Shock cannon.
Prolly a nuke blast like what bean said.
And you can't trace it back to the tank.

[Vympel]

Ah. T-90s dead then.


Any modern tank is actually heheh

Is the nuclear blast focused like a HEAT round?

[Evil Sadistic Bastard]

Ah. T-90s dead then.


Any modern tank is actually heheh

Is the nuclear blast focused like a HEAT round?

Nope. but it can be directed with very high accuracy.

[SylasGaunt]

Seige Tanks supposdly fire Low End Nuclear Bursts(Ie .5 Kiloton)

If that does not fork up T-90s I don't know what will

Out of curiosity, where do those calcs come from?

[Sea Skimmer]

Unless one of the novels had hard data a comparison is impossible I'd favor the T-90 in tank mod though. I doubt the shock canon is a shaped charge. Maybe HESH.

[Thunderfire]

Seige Tanks supposdly fire Low End Nuclear Bursts(Ie .5 Kiloton)

Can't be that high. Otherwise Tac-Nukes would make no sense in that
game. The firepower looks more like 0,01kt for tac nukes and
0,003kt for a siege tank in siege mode. SC also isn't that good in the
range department. T-90 probably outranges them by a good margin.

[Sea Skimmer]

Seige Tanks supposdly fire Low End Nuclear Bursts(Ie .5 Kiloton)

Can't be that high. Otherwise Tac-Nukes would make no sense in that
game. The firepower looks more like 0,01kt for tac nukes and
0,003kt for a siege tank in siege mode. SC also isn't that good in the
range department. T-90 probably outranges them by a good margin.

If a 1000 of there strategic nukes can turn a planet into a desert and wipe out much of its life, then what they consider tactical could easily be in the megaton range.

[Evil Sadistic Bastard]

Seige Tanks supposdly fire Low End Nuclear Bursts(Ie .5 Kiloton)

Can't be that high. Otherwise Tac-Nukes would make no sense in that
game. The firepower looks more like 0,01kt for tac nukes and
0,003kt for a siege tank in siege mode. SC also isn't that good in the
range department. T-90 probably outranges them by a good margin.

If a 1000 of there strategic nukes can turn a planet into a desert and wipe out much of its life, then what they consider tactical could easily be in the megaton range.

But then again those are strategic weapons.

Though IMO Siege tank seige mode would fire 2 kt blasts with extreme accuracy. Or something.

Tank mode is just to move and the gun isn't very powerful because it can't be stabilized effectively.

[Thunderfire]

If a 1000 of there strategic nukes can turn a planet into a desert and wipe out much of its life, then what they consider tactical could easily be in the megaton range.

MT level nukes make no sense on the battlefield. A MT range nuke would
instant kill an entire SC base and alot of stuff around that base too.
We all know that tac nukes in SC don't do this. Strategic nukes can get as
big as you want - and they have to be in the GT/TT range if you truly want
to fuck up a planet. But your tac nukes will still have less than 1 kt because
you don't want to kill your own troops with it.

[Sea Skimmer]

If a 1000 of there strategic nukes can turn a planet into a desert and wipe out much of its life, then what they consider tactical could easily be in the megaton range.

MT level nukes make no sense on the battlefield. A MT range nuke would
instant kill an entire SC base and alot of stuff around that base too.
We all know that tac nukes in SC don't do this. Strategic nukes can get as
big as you want - and they have to be in the GT/TT range if you truly want
to fuck up a planet. But your tac nukes will still have less than 1 kt because
you don't want to kill your own troops with it.

Yet the vast majority of the real worlds tactical nuclear weapons are well above 1 kiloton.

Your claim as to base distruction requires accurate strength calculations of the buildings. Non exist so you cant use such as evidence. Its just as easy to assume the tac nukes are megaton range and its takes gigaton range to level a whole base.

This is one of the reason why most people ignore Starcraft debates. We have useless ingame data, balance skews too much, and then we have a manual and cut sceans which contradict and dont show much information anyway.

[Thunderfire]

Yet the vast majority of the real worlds tactical nuclear weapons are well above 1 kiloton.

Your claim as to base distruction requires accurate strength calculations of the buildings. Non exist so you cant use such as evidence. Its just as easy to assume the tac nukes are megaton range and its takes gigaton range to level a whole base.

This is one of the reason why most people ignore Starcraft debates. We have useless ingame data, balance skews too much, and then we have a manual and cut sceans which contradict and dont show much information anyway.

We still have a blast radius in the game and the radius isn't that big
in the game. MT range means a pretty big blast radius and the radius
of a SC nuke is pretty small.

About tac nukes. I always thought nukes deployed on the battle field
would comparable to this http://www.brook.edu/dybdocroot/FP/proj ... /davyc.htm weapon.