What do you think about "Nemesis?"

bozman · Post by **bozman** » 2002-11-25 01:07pm

I have been looking at some previews for this movie and I think it actually looks pretty good. The Remans seem interesting (so far) and I like how this movie seems like it is going to a lot action. As long as the people that did Voyager have nothing to do with this movie, it might have a chance.

What do you people think? Are you going to see it when it comes out?

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-11-25 01:08pm

I refuse to pass judgement until I actually see the movie. Previews can be very misleading--with many excellent previews coming out of lousy films, but similarly terrific movies emerging after very weak previews. I at least want to hear what some of the critics say.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-11-25 01:20pm

From everything I've seen it's going to be really bad. Poor plot, worse execution, and a horrible send off for TNG.

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2002-11-25 04:07pm

Master of Ossus wrote:I refuse to pass judgement until I actually see the movie. Previews can be very misleading--with many excellent previews coming out of lousy films, but similarly terrific movies emerging after very weak previews. I at least want to hear what some of the critics say.

My thoughts exactly.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-11-25 04:43pm

I'll probably see it eventually. But from the way that ST hasn't been exactly stellar lately, I probably won't see it when it first comes out.

KhyronTheBackstabber · Post by **KhyronTheBackstabber** » 2002-11-25 05:09pm

So is this the last ST movie, or just the last one with TNG? If it's just the last TNG movie, what will the other ones be about?

I might go see it if I'm bord some night, and have nothing better to do.

ArmorPierce · Post by **ArmorPierce** » 2002-11-25 06:02pm

I think that it's the last TNG movie. I might go see the movie if you guys seem to like it.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2002-11-25 06:22pm

from what the previews show it seems to lean toward action with a healthy dose of suspense.... i dunno, i just hope Bragga and Bunghole get retired with the TNG cast. It really pisses me off what has happened to trek....I was a rabid fan of DS9 ..the maqius plot arc, the tensions with the kilngons building up to the Dominion war....there was some good writing there for a while. I really hope they used the writers from DS9 instead of that steaming pile of shite voyager.....and speaking of voyager, i get a sinking feeling that the next series of movies will revolve around kate mulgew's obnoxious ass....

Darth Balls · Post by **Darth Balls** » 2002-11-25 06:39pm

i'm gonna skip it

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2002-11-25 06:40pm

Darth Balls wrote:i'm gonna skip it

I'll see it when it comes out on video. Come to think of it, don't think I've ever seen a ST movie in a theater...

Mad · Post by **Mad** » 2002-11-25 08:27pm

Maybe I'm missing something, but... Berman and Braga didn't write Nemesis as far as I can tell:

Writing credits from http://us.imdb.com/Credits?0253754:

John Logan (I) (story) &
Rick Berman (story) &
Brent Spiner (story)

John Logan (I) (screenplay)

So Berman worked on the story, but didn't write the screenplay. John Logan wrote the screenplay. Logan also did the screenplays to Gladiator and The Time Machine. Take that for what you will... but Nemesis does not appear to be a B&B production.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2002-11-25 09:02pm

It has promise as a mindless action flick, but not as some deep story, or as a clash of wills like WOK was. I'll probably see it on video.

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2002-11-25 09:20pm

If its half as bad as the script leaked on the net, it will suck, but not too bad. Shouldn't be worse than ST:I, dear god I hope, I have to see it at the theatre.

Evil Sadistic Bastard · Post by **Evil Sadistic Bastard** » 2002-11-25 09:25pm

When is it coming out? I need to prepare my derision and scorn for maximum effectiveness.

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2002-11-25 09:32pm

http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hp&cf=prev&id=1808406055

All you'd ever want to know.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2002-11-25 09:32pm

anarchistbunny wrote:If its half as bad as the script leaked on the net, it will suck, but not too bad. Shouldn't be worse than ST:I, dear god I hope, I have to see it at the theatre.

phantom menace was godawful wasn't it... lol

a buddy of mine is coming down from the frozen tundra of upstate new york free of gi joe duties the weekend it opens....so i'll give it a try. hell if the writer from gladiator is doing this one it might be worth it.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-11-25 09:38pm

Mad wrote:Maybe I'm missing something, but... Berman and Braga didn't write Nemesis as far as I can tell:

Writing credits from http://us.imdb.com/Credits?0253754:

John Logan (I) (story) &
Rick Berman (story) &
Brent Spiner (story)

John Logan (I) (screenplay)

So Berman worked on the story, but didn't write the screenplay. John Logan wrote the screenplay. Logan also did the screenplays to Gladiator and The Time Machine. Take that for what you will... but Nemesis does not appear to be a B&B production.

It depends on how much of an effect Berman had on the story. Even good writing cannot save a plot that is simply horrendous.

Alan Bolte · Post by **Alan Bolte** » 2002-11-26 12:04am

I've decided to put my warsieness on hold for a day and join my friends (specifically, an almost-hardcore trekkie and a few non-sci-fi-fans) for a wild day of all four TNG movies. Three of which will be on video, of course.
I'll wait till I see it to think about it.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2002-11-27 01:55am

Where I live they showed Generations in theathers.
Apparently it didn't do well because they DIDN'T show First Contact nor Insurrection (can't say I blame them). I only saw them on cable years later.
Chances are Nemesis is going the same road.

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