Consolidation of the Milky Way

Imperator Galacticus · Post by **Imperator Galacticus** » 2005-08-05 10:08am

The Empire has taken upon itself to initiate an organized and systematic invasion of the Milky Way starting with the Federation and spreading throughout the new galaxy. You are the Emperor. Once the conflict has started and quite before it will end, you already are in the process of computing who will govern which sectors of this new galaxy and who will patrol its military divisions.

Which type of personalities would you choose to lead and govern Fed, Romulan, Klingon, Borg, and others space? Who will enforce Imperial law in these new and barbarous territories which must be brought the light of the Empire? You may use any Imperial personnel throughout the movies and EU from whatever time period or simply make up your own personalities.

Finally, how centralized would this new galaxy be in comparison to the Galactic Empire's heirarchal structure and who would be placed in charge of the entire galaxy?

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » 2005-08-05 04:14pm

I'd say Vader would be put in charge of the Milky Way, with a whole galaxy to run he may be too busy to plot to overthrow the Emperor.

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2005-08-05 05:58pm

Vader has never been one for governing, but he is the perfect man to conquer and pacify the entire place. I'm tempted to say Tarkin but he seems to inspire more Rebellion.

Ideally i'd go with Pellaeon as of the NJO to govern, if that is an option. He seems very much in line with Imperial ideology, yet without several of the more tyrannic aspects that make other Imperial rulers unpopular.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » 2005-08-05 06:07pm

Darth Fanboy wrote:Vader has never been one for governing, but he is the perfect man to conquer and pacify the entire place. I'm tempted to say Tarkin but he seems to inspire more Rebellion.

The trouble with using Vader is that he doesn't want to be second fiddle to anyone. He was already plotting to overthrow the Emperor at the end of ROTS, so once he's pacified the Miliky Way what do you do with him afterwards? Tarkin would be a good choice as long as he doesn't build a Death Star and go blowing up planets again, thereby inciting more rebellion. Maybe a council of Moffs would be a better idea?

Ideally i'd go with Pellaeon as of the NJO to govern, if that is an option. He seems very much in line with Imperial ideology, yet without several of the more tyrannic aspects that make other Imperial rulers unpopular.

Well the OP specifies that the Emperor is still alive, would Palleon make it past Captain without Thrawn having been watching him and grooming him for a few years?

Noble Ire · Post by **Noble Ire** » 2005-08-05 06:15pm

Well the OP specifies that the Emperor is still alive, would Palleon make it past Captain without Thrawn having been watching him and grooming him for a few years?

Pellaeon was promoted after the Battle of Endor, when is superior was killed and he took command of his destroyer and the remained of the fleet. He was officially a captain long before Thrawn returned. However, without the Empire's collapse, its doubtful Pellaeon would have risen very high, probably not much past ISD captain. Overall, he's actually a decent indavidual and a capable leader, but he's only an average military mind and lacks the ruthlessness that would have been needed for mouch promotion under Palpatine. He's and unlikely chioce for this scenario.

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2005-08-05 09:07pm

Isn't the answer obvious?

"The regional govenors would have direct control over their territories."

Always look for an opportunity for a Tarkin quote.

Plushie · Post by **Plushie** » 2005-08-10 12:29am

Noble Ire wrote:
Well the OP specifies that the Emperor is still alive, would Palleon make it past Captain without Thrawn having been watching him and grooming him for a few years?
Pellaeon was promoted after the Battle of Endor, when is superior was killed and he took command of his destroyer and the remained of the fleet. He was officially a captain long before Thrawn returned. However, without the Empire's collapse, its doubtful Pellaeon would have risen very high, probably not much past ISD captain. Overall, he's actually a decent indavidual and a capable leader, but he's only an average military mind and lacks the ruthlessness that would have been needed for mouch promotion under Palpatine. He's and unlikely chioce for this scenario.

Pellaeon was actually an amazing military commander as of the NJO, but this is, of course, after he spent years under Thrawn's wing.

RThurmont · Post by **RThurmont** » 2005-08-10 08:15am

I think Imperial organization of sectors and priority sectors is too decentralized to be applicable in an ST galaxy invasion. I can just see the Moffs fighting over where to put the Dominion, or whether to destroy Romulus or Remus with the Death Star. Every single sector, furthermore, would have to be designated as a Priority Sector, and I'm not sure if the Empire has enough people qualified to be Grand Moffs for such an undertaking. I think the ideal course would be to designate the galaxy as a "Super Priority Sector" under the control of an "Uber-Moff."

Tarkin is too arrogant and stupid for the job, knowing him, the Imperial presence in the galaxy would probably be thwarted by Hortas in collaboration with Tribbles. I'd say Vader along with his trusted military deputies General Veers and Admiral Piett would be the right choice. Ruthlessly efficient and truely frightening, Vader would be able to supress the ST galaxy. Heck, does anyone know if a good crossover fanfic has been written on the theme?

I would love to see Vader telekinetically strangle some of the more annoying Federation Admirals.

Enola Straight · Post by **Enola Straight** » 2005-08-11 06:32pm

I'd figure, since the Federation had been taken over (perhaps not defeated so much as converted

) by the Empire, some pro-authoritarian Fed official may be designated.

Admiral Nechayev comes to mind.

RThurmont · Post by **RThurmont** » 2005-08-11 06:52pm

Gee, I don't know. Every Fed Admiral I've ever seen is either a moron, a traitor, or both. Imagine if Admiral Ozzel and Admiral Zaarin were combined into one, and you get the typical Federation admiral. Look at Admiral Morrow. For that matter, look at Admiral Janeway (well, she was loyal, but infinitely dumb).

I'd think that even if some dumbfuck Fed admiral endorsed the Empire, it would still be a pretty bad idea to put one in charge. A better bet: use them for intelligence information, and for public relations. However, I think for the Empire to achieve maximum efficiency in conquering the Milky Way, in terms of manpower, military success and elapsed time, a visionary such as Darth Vader would be ideal.

BTW, Enola Straight, that is a darn hillarious screen name.

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2005-08-13 03:39am

Cpl Kendall wrote: The trouble with using Vader is that he doesn't want to be second fiddle to anyone. He was already plotting to overthrow the Emperor at the end of ROTS, so once he's pacified the Miliky Way what do you do with him afterwards? Tarkin would be a good choice as long as he doesn't build a Death Star and go blowing up planets again, thereby inciting more rebellion. Maybe a council of Moffs would be a better idea?

Yet Palpatine trusted Vader with many of the most sensitive assignments he had during the Imperial Era, and ultimately Vader is not presdisposed for governing. But I maintain no other Imperial is as qualified to pacify the 'new galaxy'. A council off Moffs only magnifies each individual's greed, it has to be one man with demonstrated loyalty to the Emperor who can also be dealt with easily enough that he won't risk Treason. Ysanne Isard perhaps...?

Well the OP specifies that the Emperor is still alive, would Palleon make it past Captain without Thrawn having been watching him and grooming him for a few years?

Yes, but he never would have ended up in his lofty position. NJO Pellaeon is the ideal guy, but in this scenario he wouldn't exist, so I withdraw that one.

Dakarne · Post by **Dakarne** » 2005-08-13 12:08pm

Mara Jade...

The Emperor's Hand.

No doubt she's had some diplomatic training.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2005-08-13 12:41pm

Dakarne wrote:Mara Jade...

The Emperor's Hand.

No doubt she's had some diplomatic training.

Why?

She was a spy and assassin. You do not see many assassins or spies have the slightest inkling of understanding the nuances of negotiating peace.

Dakarne · Post by **Dakarne** » 2005-08-13 12:51pm

Why?

She was a spy and assassin. You do not see many assassins or spies have the slightest inkling of understanding the nuances of negotiating peace.

She'd probably be trained to handle diplomatic situations.... just so she could get close to a mark, I saw her as more of a multi-purpose assassin, using almost every single different way to get to a target. Such as becoming a dancer in Jabba's court or seduction.

Simply put: She's a "Jack of all Trades"

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2005-08-13 12:54pm

Dakarne wrote:
Why?

She was a spy and assassin. You do not see many assassins or spies have the slightest inkling of understanding the nuances of negotiating peace.
She'd probably be trained to handle diplomatic situations.... just so she could get close to a mark, I saw her as more of a multi-purpose assassin, using almost every single different way to get to a target. Such as becoming a dancer in Jabba's court or seduction.

Simply put: She's a "Jack of all Trades"

*sigh*

She is an assassin, and a spy. So far everything that the EU writes points in this direction. Do you have a passage that even states that she ever did a diplomatic mission or are you babbling on a possiblity that makes no logical sense whatsoever?

Dakarne · Post by **Dakarne** » 2005-08-13 01:21pm

Okay then, no Mara Jade... I just assumed her abilities would cover diplomatic functions... she was obviously a convincing actor, she managed to pull the wool over Jabba's eyes.

In her inevitable unavailability... an easily controllable puppet, and have control of both Galaxies myself.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2005-08-13 01:36pm

Dakarne wrote:Mara Jade...

The Emperor's Hand.

No doubt she's had some diplomatic training.

That's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. But coming from you it's not really surprising.

Dakarne · Post by **Dakarne** » 2005-08-13 01:46pm

That's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. But coming from you it's not really surprising.

I try my best.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2005-08-13 02:19pm

Dakarne wrote:
That's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. But coming from you it's not really surprising.
I try my best.

No you don't. It seems like you don't even try, instead you just throw out random crap without actually thinking about what you're saying in a dartboard method to see if any of it will stick.

Or maybe you are trying and you're just simply terrible, having absolutely no debate or discussion skills whatsoever...

RThurmont · Post by **RThurmont** » 2005-08-13 02:38pm

I have to agree with Spanky and Ghostrider on this one:

1. Mara Jade is purely an operative, and contrary to the popular belief of many idiotic science fiction writers, operatives do NOT make ideal diplomats, unless you prefer gunboat diplomacy...

2. Darkane, you seem to have a real problem on this forum. You spew out hundreds of posts seemingly every day, in every forum. You post just for the sake of posting. More often than not you contribute little or nothing to the discussion. The superficial nature of your posts would not be as big a problem in and of itself, but the fact you post so much, and in so many different places, really makes it infuriating. You even post in the fucking administrative announcements! Basically, you're spamming this board, pure and simple, but rather than advertising a product, it almost seems as though you're advertising yourself, deliberately flooding the boards with irrelevant content in the interests of inflating your own ego. It's sickening, and it is ruining the quality of this forum. And it just keeps getting worse and worse.

*end of rant

Moving back to the topic, what about Palpatine managing the new galaxy directly? I realize that sounds stupid, in that it could be fairly easy for the New Order in the SW Galaxy to collapse without his presence, however, I'm thinking about certain attributes mentioned in the EU material. Isn't there some kind of doppelganger ability that comes with the dark side of the force, whereby Palpatine could create a duplicate of himself? Also, Palpatine does have several clones of himself on Byss, according to the Dark Empire graphics novel. Perhaps, assuming that we grant Palpatine all of the powers that Dark Empire attributed to him, he could activate one of those clones, perhaps inhabiting it and controlling it with the Doppelganger capability? Just a thought, and probably not a good one-I'd like your thoughts on how workable it would be, though.

We can't deny that Palpatine would have a LOT of fun subjugating the ST galaxy.

Dakarne · Post by **Dakarne** » 2005-08-13 02:46pm

Basically, you're spamming this board, pure and simple, but rather than advertising a product, it almost seems as though you're advertising yourself, deliberately flooding the boards with irrelevant content in the interests of inflating your own ego.

Okay... first of all, I conceded the Mara Jade point... which was on topic and not irrelevant

Secondly: I don't even have enough self esteem to boost any ego.

And it just keeps getting worse and worse.

Actually, I've been trying to improve over the last few days.

On Topic:

I would do one of three things to the ST Galaxy.

Blast everything and everyone into pieces... then just mine the resources.

Subjugate the place myself, making everyone mine the resources.

Put a suitable proxy in there like Vader, or a specifically trained emperor's hand.

Imperator Galacticus · Post by **Imperator Galacticus** » 2005-08-13 02:56pm

How do you folks think COMPNOR will act in spreading the ideals and culture of the Empire to this new galaxy once its existence is known? Maybe by building a completely new HoloNet relay system, solely used in order to sway the minds of the ST galaxy's inhabitants over to Imperial goals?

And honestly, I can see the Emperor opening up recruiting positions for Grand Admiral...really loyal ones in fact. Most of us agree that the Empire would subjugate the ST galaxy without delay...but I'd say the largest threat won't come from the Feds, Klingons, Borg, or any other faction but in organizing the men, equipment, conquered peoples efficiently enough to eventually make the Milky Way as stable as the Empire's galaxy.

The Galactic Empire...I guess they'd have to change the name, huh?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2005-08-13 03:00pm

Dakarne wrote:On Topic:

I would do one of three things to the ST Galaxy.

Blast everything and everyone into pieces... then just mine the resources.

Subjugate the place myself, making everyone mine the resources.

Put a suitable proxy in there like Vader, or a specifically trained emperor's hand.

That is frankly barely on topic. At the most it's only superficial.

Dakarne · Post by **Dakarne** » 2005-08-13 03:00pm

And honestly, I can see the Emperor opening up recruiting positions for Grand Admiral...really loyal ones in fact.

Grand Admiral Picard... Grand Admiral Sisko... Janitor Janeway...

I like the way you think.

RThurmont · Post by **RThurmont** » 2005-08-13 03:04pm

COMPNOR would be useful in slowly "Imperializing" the acquired worlds in the ST galaxy. However, it would in all probability take time, and the success of COMPNOR is by no means guaranteed-they were totally useless in preventing the popular disdain for the Empire that allowed the Rebel Alliance to flourish (it's true, there would have been a Rebellion regardless, but the ease with which the Rebels were able to get support from planets such as Sullust and Mon Calamari, and by which they were able to recruit, suggest a general bad public perception of the Empire and point to major failures on the part of COMPNOR).

A new holonet system would be neccessary regardless, as I doubt the Empire would want to resort to the Federation's stupid subspace relay network with its pathetic 21 lightyear range.

Oh and btw, Darkane, if you are trying to do better, you're failing miserably. I would suggest you take a week off from the forum, and when you return, get rid of your annoying signature, get rid of the Yoda pic (I mean, it really looks like you're trying to kiss up to Darth Wong) and make a point of only posting, say, once or twice per day. Then, your presence might be more tolerable and less of a general pain in the ass.