A Darkstar Debate

[HBMC]

I clearly stated that I was upset at the entire board for allowing him to get away with such obviously ludicrous unsubstantiated claims. I'm not judging SB.com based on Vypr, but rather on the board's lack of reaction to Vypr.

This I must comment on.

Recently, the esteemed Vypr did another bitch-fest rant against the ICS. He was not allowed to get away with it; I made sure of it. So don't think the Mod's aren't paying attention, nor the debators. Vypr, Lokan, PsykoSama, ALI_G, and DumbSucker are all looked at very carefully.

BYE

[HBMC]

The Vs section is. That's what he meant.

If that is the case then I apologize.

I'm just sick-to-fucking-death of everything that happens in the VS debate forum being labled as "SB.com" and not "SB.com's VS Debate Forum" especially considering the majority of comments that come after "SB.com" are rather spiteful and nasty.

BYE

[Vympel]

The Vs section is. That's what he meant.

If that is the case then I apologize.

I'm just sick-to-fucking-death of everything that happens in the VS debate forum being labled as "SB.com" and not "SB.com's VS Debate Forum" especially considering the majority of comments that come after "SB.com" are rather spiteful and nasty.

BYE

Point taken; I for one will refrain from saying SB.com.

[HBMC]

Depends on the Mod, his/her mood, and the offender. Some of the Mods are jack booted assholes and others can take some flames.

I'd be interested to hear who. We're not at SB.com, and nothing you say can be used against you. So out with it!

BYE

[Stormbringer]

Depends on the Mod, his/her mood, and the offender. Some of the Mods are jack booted assholes and others can take some flames.

I'd be interested to hear who. We're not at SB.com, and nothing you say can be used against you. So out with it!

BYE

The worst guy still a mod is ArthurDent. He tends to close down and all threads he doesn't like on religious grounds and is quite frankly a prude. He's lightened up some but I still think he's abused his authority.

Listen, I haven't been there much so I'm not going to dig through the archive for dead threads. Suffice to say I've thought in the past that some threads were closed or post deleted unecessarily.

[HBMC]

The worst guy still a mod is ArthurDent. He tends to close down and all threads he doesn't like on religious grounds and is quite frankly a prude. He's lightened up some but I still think he's abused his authority.

Listen, I haven't been there much so I'm not going to dig through the archive for dead threads. Suffice to say I've thought in the past that some threads were closed or post deleted unecessarily.

Dent is lightening up a little, and usually comes into the Admin forum to discuss thread closure and the right action to take etc. So I wouldn't worry too much.

Besides, it's the reason we have more than one Mod per forum (other than Picardsmk for the art forum), so that there's always a second or sometimes even third or fourth opinion. And there are inter-mod arguments over issues, and they happen more frequently than we'd all like too.

BYE

[Stormbringer]

Dent is lightening up a little, and usually comes into the Admin forum to discuss thread closure and the right action to take etc. So I wouldn't worry too much.

Besides, it's the reason we have more than one Mod per forum (other than Picardsmk for the art forum), so that there's always a second or sometimes even third or fourth opinion. And there are inter-mod arguments over issues, and they happen more frequently than we'd all like too.

BYE

That's all true but he's still a too willing to close threads he doesn't like. And the other mods have engaged in the same on pet subjects.

And like here, it's very rare for a mod to overule another mod once action has been taken.

[jegs2]

Dent is lightening up a little, and usually comes into the Admin forum to discuss thread closure and the right action to take etc. So I wouldn't worry too much.
BYE

Art's seems to be a bit fickle, and sometimes it's difficult to see where he's coming from. He'll be hell-bent to end a thread that appears to be going a direction he dislikes, and he'll try to steer it into a direction of his choosing or he'll just lock it.

[Alyeska]

Well damn. I wanted to jump into the thick of this and smack people for their SB.com bashing but HBMC already beat me to it.

Ah well.

SB.com has plenty of idiot debaters. They aren't really tollerated so much as we just ignore them. The likes of Wal and SeanG have mostly been exposed for their idiotic Fundamentalism and intollerance. We had one particular Fundie actually insult Tron pretty bad, he got nuked. We have another idiot in the Non-scifi forum by the name of Shakraka who has a head similar to a brick wall. Then you got some of the more well known VS debaters who seem to be made out of Neutronium.

Just because these people reside at SB doesn't exactly mean they are looked upon highly. SeanG, Wal, and Shakraka are mostly looked upon as complete morons. Vypr, Ali-G, and PyschoSama aren't considered the best of VS Debaters. E1701 is just looked at as an odd ST vs SW debater, but when taking part in any other scifi debate you can count on him doing a good job.

SB.com has some nut jobs, then again I know that SD.net has a few as well. That Arezon person in the Off-Topic thread isn't exactly a shinning beacon of inteligence. Mike 2009 is somewhat annoying. There were the WCOTC idiots who stopped buy (FYU, Arminus got himself banned at SB). Darkstar is another noteable example, though he made the mistake of insulting the owner of the border (tough shit).

The minority do not make up the majority. The names say it all. Sadly though, the minority CAN be the most vocal group and the voices of the majority are either silenced, or the majority is apathetic because the minority group has been around THAT long that they are just ignored.

[Ender]

I personally find this debate to be boring and a perfect example of why SB.com is an inferior debating site..

Funny, considering SB.com isn't actually a debating site. But we'll carefully ignore that so you can slam it a little more.

I was actually just about to post this thread of his here, because I found it rather amusing.

Basically he's stated the obvious - AT-ST's are not tough. They are the Humvee's of the Imperial army.

I'm just waiting for his next stunning revelation.

BYE

His next one seems to deal with Stormie armor.

[Vympel]

Wonderful. He found a crack in a shoulder pauldron.

[Vympel]

His lies quite frankly infuriate me. I've just perused his site. He claims LAATs are unshielded- and that despite what the canon novel says, we don't see shields in the film. Fuck he's dishonest.

[Warspite]

I just find it sad that the "noise" level is so loud, one can't discuss properly, it just diffuses into multiple piss contests.

[Kamakazie Sith]

And that's the point here.

What the people of this site fail to realise that is that DipShit isn't tolerated in any way. We hate him as much as the next brain-dead Trekkie/5'ver/Warsie who comes in talking shit. Thing is, unlike this place and ASVS, SB.com is not a debating site by design and as a result the greater majority of us simply don't care enough to deal with him.

Furthurmore we've had "Wall of Ignorance" debators before, long before, YEARS before DeadBeat ever showed his spacious cranium at SB.com, and they really suck the energy and the will to give-a-shit from you and as a result you tend to ignore them and let them do whatever the hell they want.

That's pretty much what I've been saying ever since I entered this thread.

[Master of Ossus]

I personally find this debate to be boring and a perfect example of why SB.com is an inferior debating site..

Funny, considering SB.com isn't actually a debating site. But we'll carefully ignore that so you can slam it a little more.

Yeah, so, it's not designed as a debate site, but it HAS debates at its site. I find those debates to be inferior to the ones that we have, here. What was wrong with that statement?

[Kamakazie Sith]

I personally find this debate to be boring and a perfect example of why SB.com is an inferior debating site..

Funny, considering SB.com isn't actually a debating site. But we'll carefully ignore that so you can slam it a little more.

Yeah, so, it's not designed as a debate site, but it HAS debates at its site. I find those debates to be inferior to the ones that we have, here. What was wrong with that statement?

The reason why you find them inferior.......

[SPOOFE]

Vypr, Ali-G, and PyschoSama aren't considered the best of VS Debaters.

Ain't that the truth. Throw Rvalencia in there and you've just summed up my own personal target gallery. You can practically set your watch by Vypr's ICS bitching.

E1701 is just looked at as an odd ST vs SW debater

E's all right, in my opinion. We'll disagree 'til the cows come home, but at least he's not (often) malicious with his posts. If I have a fight with him, I can typically keep it in that thread.

[Stormbringer]

Funny, considering SB.com isn't actually a debating site. But we'll carefully ignore that so you can slam it a little more.

Yeah, so, it's not designed as a debate site, but it HAS debates at its site. I find those debates to be inferior to the ones that we have, here. What was wrong with that statement?

The reason why you find them inferior.......

Because some the guys on the site are horrible debaters and have major axes to grind against Mike? So much so that they automatically reject anything associated with him. Frankly they can't seperate their own biases from their debates.

[Darth Wong]

The minority do not make up the majority. The names say it all. Sadly though, the minority CAN be the most vocal group and the voices of the majority are either silenced, or the majority is apathetic because the minority group has been around THAT long that they are just ignored.

That's why you should make a game out of abusing them, just to keep it interesting.

[Master of Ossus]

His lies quite frankly infuriate me. I've just perused his site. He claims LAATs are unshielded- and that despite what the canon novel says, we don't see shields in the film. Fuck he's dishonest.

I gave him the fucking quote from the novel months ago that demonstrated LAAT's are shielded. He STILL hasn't changed his site.

[Master of Ossus]

Funny, considering SB.com isn't actually a debating site. But we'll carefully ignore that so you can slam it a little more.

Yeah, so, it's not designed as a debate site, but it HAS debates at its site. I find those debates to be inferior to the ones that we have, here. What was wrong with that statement?

The reason why you find them inferior.......

Is because the SB.com people allow morons to get away with making as many unsupported claims as they want. They allow them to state anything they feel like without repercussions. Further, they allow them to make subjective statements in an objective way. Moreover, I assume that you are from SB.com because you defend it so much, and because of the habit your last post shows. I stated in my original post why I felt that SB.com was an inferior site for holding debates. HBMC then took a tiny fraction of my original post, responded to it, and then you believed that part of the post to be my complete thought. You never bothered to go back and check the original post to see what context I stated that in, and consequently disregarded the entire part of my post that was written after the tiny part that HBMC quoted. This demonstrates a spectacular inability to debate effectively, and is not tolerable on SD.net. Go back, read my complete post, and if you still have a problem with what I said then tell me about it. Don't skip reading threads to get to the rebuttal--you might just learn something in the meantime.

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

Doesn't All-Terrain SCOUT-TRANSPORT mean anything to him?

[Master of Ossus]

Doesn't All-Terrain SCOUT-TRANSPORT mean anything to him?

That was pointed out to him. He disregarded it completely because in the movies we see them used as frontline combat vehicles.

[Kamakazie Sith]

Is because the SB.com people allow morons to get away with making as many unsupported claims as they want. They allow them to state anything they feel like without repercussions. Further, they allow them to make subjective statements in an objective way. Moreover, I assume that you are from SB.com because you defend it so much, and because of the habit your last post shows. I stated in my original post why I felt that SB.com was an inferior site for holding debates. HBMC then took a tiny fraction of my original post, responded to it, and then you believed that part of the post to be my complete thought. You never bothered to go back and check the original post to see what context I stated that in, and consequently disregarded the entire part of my post that was written after the tiny part that HBMC quoted. This demonstrates a spectacular inability to debate effectively, and is not tolerable on SD.net. Go back, read my complete post, and if you still have a problem with what I said then tell me about it. Don't skip reading threads to get to the rebuttal--you might just learn something in the meantime.

You assume way too much and with all due respect I did read your entire post. What I disagree with is this part; "Is because the SB.com people allow morons to get away with making as many unsupported claims as they want. They allow them to state anything they feel like without repercussions."

Which was also stated in your original post; "The members there are clearly idiots or they would be able to see through DarkStar's drivel."

As a matter of fact Darkstar was called on it.......just because it isn't in the next post doesn't mean much. If you actually read some of the posts people dread his thoughts just as much as you do over here.

[Master of Ossus]

Is because the SB.com people allow morons to get away with making as many unsupported claims as they want. They allow them to state anything they feel like without repercussions. Further, they allow them to make subjective statements in an objective way. Moreover, I assume that you are from SB.com because you defend it so much, and because of the habit your last post shows. I stated in my original post why I felt that SB.com was an inferior site for holding debates. HBMC then took a tiny fraction of my original post, responded to it, and then you believed that part of the post to be my complete thought. You never bothered to go back and check the original post to see what context I stated that in, and consequently disregarded the entire part of my post that was written after the tiny part that HBMC quoted. This demonstrates a spectacular inability to debate effectively, and is not tolerable on SD.net. Go back, read my complete post, and if you still have a problem with what I said then tell me about it. Don't skip reading threads to get to the rebuttal--you might just learn something in the meantime.

You assume way too much and with all due respect I did read your entire post. What I disagree with is this part; "Is because the SB.com people allow morons to get away with making as many unsupported claims as they want. They allow them to state anything they feel like without repercussions."

Which was also stated in your original post; "The members there are clearly idiots or they would be able to see through DarkStar's drivel."

As a matter of fact Darkstar was called on it.......just because it isn't in the next post doesn't mean much. If you actually read some of the posts people dread his thoughts just as much as you do over here.

If you had read the thread, then you would have known that comment was based on Vypr's statements to the effect of "DarkStar is ST's Mike Wong."