Ashcroft, you lying hypocrite ...

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-11-26 12:26pm

Everybody knows how Ashcroft is pushing for 24/7 monitoring of all communications of all Americans, right? Well, take a look at how his stripes have changed since Clinton was in power. This is a link to an article he wrote when Billy C tried to regulate the Internet:

http://usinfo.state.gov/journals/itgic/ ... e/gj-7.htm

EDIT: for those who don't want to bother clicking on the link, Ashcroft wrote an article entitled "Keep Big Brother's Hands Off The Internet". Quite a change of heart he's had since then, eh?

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2002-11-26 12:29pm

What did you expect? He's an politician...
Hypocrisy is a major item in the job description

Ted · Post by **Ted** » 2002-11-26 12:30pm

He's republican, and a politician, of course he's gonna lie.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2002-11-26 12:30pm

Darth Wong wrote:Everybody knows how Ashcroft is pushing for 24/7 monitoring of all communications of all Americans, right? Well, take a look at how his stripes have changed since Clinton was in power. This is a link to an article he wrote when Billy C tried to regulate the Internet:

http://usinfo.state.gov/journals/itgic/ ... e/gj-7.htm

I really hope Bush gives this guy the boot before the next election. AG's generally don't last a whole administration and Reno was one of the first to do so. I hope she is the last and Ashcroft goes bye bye.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2002-11-26 12:32pm

Ted wrote:He's a politician, of course he's gonna lie.

There, fixed it for you!

Ted · Post by **Ted** » 2002-11-26 12:33pm

MKSheppard wrote:
Ted wrote:He's a republican, and a politician, of course he's gonna lie.
There, fixed it for you!

And of course he's a damn republican. Everyone knows they are lying buggers.

I never knew you were a democrat Shep!

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2002-11-26 12:34pm

Ted wrote: And of course he's a damn politician. Everyone knows they are lying buggers.

Fixed it again! Do I have to point out that Billy C said our troops would be
home from bosnia in time for christmas, and they're now in their 4th or
5th year there?

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2002-11-26 12:38pm

Fixed it again! Do I have to point out that Billy C said our troops would be
home from bosnia in time for christmas, and they're now in their 4th or
5th year there?

This is to be expected anytime troops are used. We still have troops in Saudi, Bosnia, Korea, etc. I dont know why Americans fall for the crap lines that the ground troops will go in then get out. That only works for a minor operation in some place small like Grenada.

I wonder if anyone is gonna try to stick Aschcroft to his article?

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2002-11-26 02:20pm

I don't know what everyone expected. Ashcroft is a fascist, put simply.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-11-26 02:24pm

I'm with Shep on the Republican issue.

Ashcroft's actions really don't have much to do with the fact that he's a republican.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-11-26 02:24pm

Durandal wrote:I don't know what everyone expected. Ashcroft is a fascist, put simply.

Yeah, he's a jack booted bastard. I think it's very telling that he lost to a dead guy.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2002-11-26 03:51pm

John Ashcroft: A lying, hypocrite out of touch with the common man. Or, in other words, your typical politician.

GrandMasterTerwynn · Post by **GrandMasterTerwynn** » 2002-11-26 03:58pm

Knife wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:Everybody knows how Ashcroft is pushing for 24/7 monitoring of all communications of all Americans, right? Well, take a look at how his stripes have changed since Clinton was in power. This is a link to an article he wrote when Billy C tried to regulate the Internet:

http://usinfo.state.gov/journals/itgic/ ... e/gj-7.htm
I really hope Bush gives this guy the boot before the next election. AG's generally don't last a whole administration and Reno was one of the first to do so. I hope she is the last and Ashcroft goes bye bye.

I do not think Bush is going to fire Ashcroft before the end of his term. They're both right-wing Christian conservatives. Bush is gonna watch out for his own. Can't say the same thing for Colin Powell, who is far closer to the center than Bush is (And Powell will likely leave on his own accord anyway.)

Rhadamanthus · Post by **Rhadamanthus** » 2002-11-26 05:13pm

Bah, we all know Democrats are absolute paragons of truth ....

" I did not have sexual relations.."
"Any President who lies to the American people should resign..."

I'll give you three guesses, but you should only need 1.

Ted · Post by **Ted** » 2002-11-26 05:38pm

Name me one president who HASN'T lied to the american people?

They're all politicians, politicians lie through their teeth. Heck, even Jedi know that! (mentioned by Obi-Wan in AotC)

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2002-11-26 06:13pm

hmm..i cant think of anyone that has not lied. "Read my lips..." was a pretty good one. So was " I didnt inhale.."

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-11-26 06:23pm

TrailerParkJawa wrote:hmm..i cant think of anyone that has not lied. "Read my lips..." was a pretty good one. So was " I didnt inhale.."

"That depends on your definition of 'is.'"

Dralan · Post by **Dralan** » 2002-11-26 06:29pm

"I've been criticized for going over the heads of the Congress. So, what's the fuss? A lot of things go over their heads." - Ronald Reagan 1985

I like this quote... I think it will fit nicely in this thread

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2002-11-26 06:39pm

Ted wrote:Name me one president who HASN'T lied to the american people?

They're all politicians, politicians lie through their teeth. Heck, even Jedi know that! (mentioned by Obi-Wan in AotC)

Honest Abe.

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-11-26 06:41pm

IRG CommandoJoe wrote:
Ted wrote:Name me one president who HASN'T lied to the american people?

They're all politicians, politicians lie through their teeth. Heck, even Jedi know that! (mentioned by Obi-Wan in AotC)
Honest Abe.

lol. George Washington.

"I cannot tell a lie." lol.

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2002-11-26 06:41pm

Hehe it'd be funny if "I cannot tell a lie" WAS a lie.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2002-11-26 07:16pm

Did you guys know that Abe was originally planning to deport all the Blacks back to Africa or something?

Things could've been a lot different if Lincoln hadn't been assasinated.

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-11-26 07:22pm

IRG CommandoJoe wrote:Hehe it'd be funny if "I cannot tell a lie" WAS a lie.

It was.

Raptor 597 · Post by **Raptor 597** » 2002-11-26 07:23pm

Shinova wrote:Did you guys know that Abe was originally planning to deport all the Blacks back to Africa or something?

Things could've been a lot different if Lincoln hadn't been assasinated.

No, that the Western African country freeing slaves, which had a flag like the CSA one, before their was a CSA. Coindence? Maybe. Anyone you have a link too Lincoln's plan.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-11-26 07:27pm

Rhadamanthus wrote:Bah, we all know Democrats are absolute paragons of truth ....

" I did not have sexual relations.."
"Any President who lies to the American people should resign..."

I'll give you three guesses, but you should only need 1.

I sense a lot of distraction attempts here. Billy Clinton's blowjob does not affect you in any way, shape or form. It was wholly irrelevant to the presidency. Ashcroft's about-face on Internet freedom and individual privacy, on the other hand, DOES affect you.

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