The new world

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2005-08-12 04:24pm

Kamakazie Sith wrote:
brianeyci wrote:
Jake99 wrote:I thank you but I cannot let you continue on the path that you are on, without trying to stop you. Live by the sword, die by the sword and this world builds and uses bigger swords every day.
Is this a death threat Jake99? If so, you're ass is fried extra tasty crispy.

The death threat and the trolling is probably the end of the line for you, see you around, I'll think of you when I buy a twinkie .

Brian
He's an idiot, Brian. However, that isn't a death threat.

No, what he's saying is closest to "eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" and decrying our wasteful, militaristic ways.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2005-08-12 04:35pm

Jake99 wrote:I worked 1978-1980 in Buffalo, 1980 -1988 in Natick Ma. 1988-1991 Cleveland 1991 -2000 Natick Ma. and I worked temporary assagnments in Philadelphia Pa., Biddeford Me, and East Brunswick NJ.

Interesting. So you worked at Hostess during a period of extremely high inflation and interest rates, with bond rates skyrocketing as high as 17.5%. And you say that you demonstrated your method for utopian fixed prices and worker's paradise? Interesting, since the price of Twinkies was not fixed during that period, and I have no recollection of Hostess being immune to the early 1980s recession.

Interestingly enough, during your last two years there (1998 to 2000), Interstate Bakeries' stock price plummeted by more than half. Was that your swan song, Oh Lord of Economic Utopia?

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2005-08-12 05:22pm

J wrote:
Jake99 wrote:I sent some stuff to Snuggly Swimmer Babe's email because as a hotmail customer the web host Surelth sent me to won't handle hotmail accounts.
Either you don't know how to use email or you're lying. There's nothing in my email from you.
3 hours.

He's probably too dumb to know what "remove the 3 asterisks" means.

Post by **Surlethe** » 2005-08-12 05:29pm

Jake99 wrote:I totally appreciate the technology that the US has developed, but it has been a blood bath to get here which is what needs to stop.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc is a fallacy, dumbfuck.

I think the number is 65% of the US federal budget is for defense spending and I say the lines on the map are illegal and inefficient.

2004 US military expenditure was about $370.7 billion; total US expenditure is $2.338 trillion, from here. That means you're full of shit, troll.

Spend your labor on good things like helping your neighbor not killing those who stand against the destruction you leave in your wake.

As I have pointed out before, war results when people claim entitlement to resources, rather than trading them. Capitalism is the ultimate anti-war -- or maybe you haven't noticed the UTTER LACK OF WAR BETWEEN CAPITALIST COUNTRIES in history?

If you don't think the internet is a better place to demonstrate a product you are nuts.

No shit; however, there is a niche for demonstrating products offline because some people don't have internet. Is that so hard to grasp, moron?

I don't want to negotiate the price of anything and I want its value to remain the same barring shortages of materials and transportation expenses.

VALUE IS SUBJECTIVE, FUCKWIT.

If you want something that is manufactured on the other side of the earth then transportation fees increase the cost of the item.

No shit.

I worked 1978-1980 in Buffalo, 1980 -1988 in Natick Ma. 1988-1991 Cleveland 1991 -2000 Natick Ma. and I worked temporary assagnments in Philadelphia Pa., Biddeford Me, and East Brunswick NJ. The only computer skills I needed were accounting, payroll, word processing and simple CAD programs that I used to redesign many work areas. I sent some stuff to Snuggly Swimmer Babe's email because as a hotmail customer the web host Surelth sent me to won't handle hotmail accounts.

You're so full of shit, troll, it's dripping from your lips. Imageshack doesn't fucking require emails to upload images.

I was the only internal problem solver dedicated to that task that I know of in that company and I solved every problem I faced very quickly. China has 250,000 work place deaths per year and 70-90% of all dr visits in the US are due to stress.

Why don't you, oh -- I don't know -- BACK THIS UP. Minor point, the subtlety of which is no doubt beyond your grasp: even if 70% - 90% of US doctor visits are due to stress, that doesn't make it a killer.

I had a similar environments and eliminated the injuries and the stress. I play a simple game and the results are miraculous. That same simple game can be applied to the world and the results would be the same.

Restating your bullfucked claim as a piece of evidence does not help your case, idiot.

And I had no help other than the engineering firms and internal engineers who developed the systems that I designed. This world creates problems faster than it solves them which is a problem that I overcame. I need to clean up the traffic jams and waste that has been left behind by the greedy systems that brought us the technology we needed to change the way we live.

You need to provide evidence of this waste, dipshit.

I thank you but I cannot let you continue on the path that you are on, without trying to stop you.

"The avalanche has started. It is too late for the stones to vote."
~Ambassador Kosh, via Nephtys

Live by the sword, die by the sword and this world builds and uses bigger swords every day.

I think you mean: Live by the dollar, die by the dollar, and this world creates and uses more dollars every day.

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2005-08-12 05:34pm

Jake99 wrote:I play a simple game and the results are miraculous. That same simple game can be applied to the world and the results would be the same.

Whoa whoa whoa, guys, I think I've figured it out!

Jake here's been playing Civilization and SimCity!

DrkHelmet · Post by **DrkHelmet** » 2005-08-12 05:39pm

aerius wrote:
Jake99 wrote:I play a simple game and the results are miraculous. That same simple game can be applied to the world and the results would be the same.
Whoa whoa whoa, guys, I think I've figured it out!

Jake here's been playing Civilization and SimCity!

By that logic, if you gave me control of the U.S., I could rule the world inside of 50 years. Jake, I'll race you!

Post by **Surlethe** » 2005-08-12 05:46pm

aerius wrote:
Jake99 wrote:I play a simple game and the results are miraculous. That same simple game can be applied to the world and the results would be the same.
Whoa whoa whoa, guys, I think I've figured it out!

Jake here's been playing Civilization and SimCity!

SimCity? Yet more evidence Jake99 is actually Vin Diesel in disguise: Vin Diesel, and only Vin Diesel has beaten SimCity!

J · Post by J » 2005-08-12 06:38pm

And time's up. No email from Jake.
Is anyone surprised?
Does this look like a rhetorical question?

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2005-08-12 06:48pm

Has anyone else picked up on the irony of his "don't make anything people don't need, don't waste, etc" nonsense and the fact that he brags about working for Hostess, a company which makes completely unnecessary and nutritionally harmful junk food?

DrkHelmet · Post by **DrkHelmet** » 2005-08-12 06:50pm

Darth Wong wrote:Has anyone else picked up on the irony of his "don't make anything people don't need, don't waste, etc" nonsense and the fact that he brags about working for Hostess, a company which makes completely unnecessary and nutritionally harmful junk food?

I didn't until you mentioned it. However, it is very valid and highly ironic.

I would think that, in a perfect system, Hostess wouldn't exist.

Mark S · Post by **Mark S** » 2005-08-12 10:40pm

The devil you say! Twinkies are the perfect food. The government will pass them out to you via government appointed twinkie delivery boys while you sit around on your government provided la-z-boy, tooling around the government approved internet (if you can figure out the gosh darn thing - not being much of a computer wiz and all). And best of all, since they aren't made with anything even approaching natural foodstuffs, they won't use up the resorces. You nay-sayers are all fools. The Great Twinkie has spoken to me, or maybe it didn't, but if it did, I would be speaking the words from my mouth in which it had imparted to me as though I were the chosen of the Great Twinkie, or someone very much like him. Can't you see that I am the Chosen of the Great Twinkie and the the simple Way of the Twinkie is the only way that our poor, misbegotten world will survive. Can't you see. A twinkie in every hand! Fat kid's as far as the eye can see! You fools have been living with your system of grammer and wages and value based trade so long that it has warped you like only a diet lacking in twinkies can. Do away with big business I say! All goods shall be distributed through garage sale only. The people shall come together and look and sneer at everyone elses crap but some of that crap will be good to them so they shall buy it. It's just that simple! Everything else will be done by our furry woodland friends. Need wood? Get those lazy beavers to bring it I say! Need ore for the twinkie refinery? Ants people! What else are they doing?! Free up your lives to play at the feet of the Great Twinkie! 63% of people without shoes would like a pair. I have seen things that only my eyes have seen and only I know what my eyes have seen because nobody else can see with my eyes. I was the only one to sit on my toilet this morning at 6:09 am. If that isn't the surest sign that I am the Chosen of the Great Twinkie than I don't know what is. Aside from the Great Twinkie speaking through me as if I were him, only not with his words but my words, only they may as well be his words because I am the one that says them. AAAAAAAAAA!!!

This board needs an enima.

Lord Zentei · Post by **Lord Zentei** » 2005-08-13 08:37am

Jake99 wrote:I totally appreciate the technology that the US has developed, but it has been a blood bath to get here which is what needs to stop. I think the number is 65% of the US federal budget is for defense spending and I say the lines on the map are illegal and inefficient. Spend your labor on good things like helping your neighbor not killing those who stand against the destruction you leave in your wake.

Blah, blah, blah. More of the same. How tedious.

If you don't think the internet is a better place to demonstrate a product you are nuts.

Right. And I suppose that seeing a picture of a product on a webpage is going to provide a more complete demonstration of a product than actually going and viewing it in person.

I don't want to negotiate the price of anything and I want its value to remain the same barring shortages of materials and transportation expenses.

As Surlethe has pointed out, all value is subjective. Moreover, different producers can provide the same products at different prices. This is the reason why competition and supply-demand curves work the way they do.

If you want something that is manufactured on the other side of the earth then transportation fees increase the cost of the item.

No shit, Sherlock. But it may still be more economical than producing stuff locally.

<snip bullshit>

How about if you email the docs to me then? I don't use hotmail. Just use the email button in my profile.

China has 250,000 work place deaths per year and 70-90% of all dr visits in the US are due to stress. I had a similar environments and eliminated the injuries and the stress.

Hostess had 250000 work place deaths a year? Wow.

I play a simple game and the results are miraculous. That same simple game can be applied to the world and the results would be the same.

What "game" would this be?

And I had no help other than the engineering firms and internal engineers who developed the systems that I designed. This world creates problems faster than it solves them which is a problem that I overcame. I need to clean up the traffic jams and waste that has been left behind by the greedy systems that brought us the technology we needed to change the way we live. I thank you but I cannot let you continue on the path that you are on, without trying to stop you. Live by the sword, die by the sword and this world builds and uses bigger swords every day.

Blah, blah, blah.

YOU HAVE FAILED TO ANSWER ANY OF MY POINTS AND QUESTIONS, YOU MORONIC ASSHOLE. Am I surprised? Take a wild guess.

Lord Zentei · Post by **Lord Zentei** » 2005-08-13 08:40am

My bad, seems you can't attach files using the button.

Here: +ehj@fys.ku.dk

Now let's see those docs, Jake99.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2005-08-15 04:22am

I'd like to point out that Jake has created a thread with several hundred replies and thousands of views, and only has 15 posts to his name on this board. Truly staggering.

*has another stroke*

Erik von Nein · Post by **Erik von Nein** » 2005-08-15 04:59am

CaptainChewbacca wrote:I'd like to point out that Jake has created a thread with several hundred replies and thousands of views, and only has 15 posts to his name on this board. Truly staggering.

*has another stroke*

It helps when you're a raving lunatic.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2005-08-15 05:10am

I take it he's our new Chewtoy now? I think that's probly why he isn't banned for his textbook trolling.

Pcm979 · Post by **Pcm979** » 2005-08-15 05:13am

Hey, we can't turn away the Twinkie Messiah.

Instant Sunrise · Post by **Instant Sunrise** » 2005-08-15 05:14am

CaptainChewbacca wrote:I'd like to point out that Jake has created a thread with several hundred replies and thousands of views, and only has 15 posts to his name on this board. Truly staggering.

*has another stroke*

Talk about some serious efficiency.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2005-08-15 09:12am

CaptainChewbacca wrote:I'd like to point out that Jake has created a thread with several hundred replies and thousands of views, and only has 15 posts to his name on this board. Truly staggering.

*has another stroke*

That's because he's amusing, in a sort of sick "watch that earwig twitch in the microwave" kind of way.

Ma Deuce · Post by **Ma Deuce** » 2005-08-15 02:23pm

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:I take it he's our new Chewtoy now? I think that's probly why he isn't banned for his textbook trolling.

He can't be a chewtoy if he doesn't stick around to be chewtoy-ized. I have a feeling that eventually he is simply going to slink away after he's finally decided he can't convince anyone and then never come back.

Jake99 · Post by **Jake99** » 2005-08-15 02:56pm

Lord Zentei,

Did you get what I sent you? I did get an automated response that said you did not get scan 10. Snuggly swimmer babe should have got it too.

Twinkies and bread are food basics in the US and although other foods may be more nutricious that does not make them bad for you. I don't suggest you to drink 10 beers a day but you can live off it ( I think). I think handing out loaves of bread makes more sense that handing out sacks of wheat.

And as far as the stock value of the company during my time. I can only control what I am in charge of and the facilities I ran kept that company in business. The problem was each time I made improvements, the CEO took them in his paycheck and the people who lost their jobs had to look elsewhere for work. The stock market is the most worthless use of manpower I have ever seen. Its a gambling casino nothing more and those are popping up everywhere just to keep the economy running. Hope, risk, stress, luck, corruption and grand theft is what the stock market is.

I may only have 16 posts but I post other places as well and its all the time that I have. Why are so many people standing behind this way of life when you know it does not work properly? When I look at the fruit of the tree this system is growing, its scary and I wont eat it. Swords to plowshares is my quest and has been since I was a little boy. Each time I or someone else gets threatened, I fight back with words and wisdom and I have yet to lose. Some people are looking for a better way others are content with the wars that rage on.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2005-08-15 03:31pm

Jake99 wrote:Lord Zentei,

Did you get what I sent you? I did get an automated response that said you did not get scan 10. Snuggly swimmer babe should have got it too.

Twinkies and bread are food basics in the US and although other foods may be more nutricious that does not make them bad for you. I don't suggest you to drink 10 beers a day but you can live off it ( I think). I think handing out loaves of bread makes more sense that handing out sacks of wheat.

*shakes his head at the man who ran a bakery and can't spell "nutritious*
Loaves of bread and twinkies are two different things. And you can only live off Guiness.

And as far as the stock value of the company during my time. I can only control what I am in charge of and the facilities I ran kept that company in business. The problem was each time I made improvements, the CEO took them in his paycheck and the people who lost their jobs had to look elsewhere for work. The stock market is the most worthless use of manpower I have ever seen. Its a gambling casino nothing more and those are popping up everywhere just to keep the economy running. Hope, risk, stress, luck, corruption and grand theft is what the stock market is.

So, you don't so much love communism as you can't make Capitalism work for you. You must be an idiot if you think the Stock Market is luck.

I may only have 16 posts but I post other places as well and its all the time that I have. Why are so many people standing behind this way of life when you know it does not work properly? When I look at the fruit of the tree this system is growing, its scary and I wont eat it. Swords to plowshares is my quest and has been since I was a little boy. Each time I or someone else gets threatened, I fight back with words and wisdom and I have yet to lose. Some people are looking for a better way others are content with the wars that rage on.

The capitalist, free-market way of life IS working, and has been growing ever since before the Dutch East-India company. You know what happens when you beat a sword into a plowshare? The guy next door with a sword takes it.

brianeyci · Post by **brianeyci** » 2005-08-15 04:10pm

I looked up twinkie nutritional value. Its not as good as enriched whole wheat bread, but it seems that Twinkies aren't as bad for you as I thought they would be. They are also baked. But, you can't live off Twinkies.

Brian

Pcm979 · Post by **Pcm979** » 2005-08-15 06:31pm

I love how "I turned Hostess into a worker's paradise" seamlessly metamorphosed into "I made improvements, but the CEO pocketed the profits and laid everyone off anyway."

Instant Sunrise · Post by **Instant Sunrise** » 2005-08-15 06:43pm

brianeyci wrote:I looked up twinkie nutritional value. Its not as good as enriched whole wheat bread, but it seems that Twinkies aren't as bad for you as I thought they would be. They are also baked. But, you can't live off Twinkies.

Brian

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