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Master of Ossus wrote:
Kamakazie Sith wrote:
Master of Ossus wrote:
Is because the SB.com people allow morons to get away with making as many unsupported claims as they want. They allow them to state anything they feel like without repercussions. Further, they allow them to make subjective statements in an objective way. Moreover, I assume that you are from SB.com because you defend it so much, and because of the habit your last post shows. I stated in my original post why I felt that SB.com was an inferior site for holding debates. HBMC then took a tiny fraction of my original post, responded to it, and then you believed that part of the post to be my complete thought. You never bothered to go back and check the original post to see what context I stated that in, and consequently disregarded the entire part of my post that was written after the tiny part that HBMC quoted. This demonstrates a spectacular inability to debate effectively, and is not tolerable on SD.net. Go back, read my complete post, and if you still have a problem with what I said then tell me about it. Don't skip reading threads to get to the rebuttal--you might just learn something in the meantime.
You assume way too much and with all due respect I did read your entire post. What I disagree with is this part; "Is because the SB.com people allow morons to get away with making as many unsupported claims as they want. They allow them to state anything they feel like without repercussions."

Which was also stated in your original post; "The members there are clearly idiots or they would be able to see through DarkStar's drivel."

As a matter of fact Darkstar was called on it.......just because it isn't in the next post doesn't mean much. If you actually read some of the posts people dread his thoughts just as much as you do over here.
If you had read the thread, then you would have known that comment was based on Vypr's statements to the effect of "DarkStar is ST's Mike Wong."
So the opinion that SB.com is moronic is derived from one person? :?:
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Master of Ossus wrote:
If you had read the thread, then you would have known that comment was based on Vypr's statements to the effect of "DarkStar is ST's Mike Wong."
Hmm it seemed to be that it was directed at the entire board itself. No matter, Vypr is considered an idiot on SB.com....no we don't place Village Idiot under their name but we probably should :D
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Kamakazie Sith wrote:
Master of Ossus wrote:
If you had read the thread, then you would have known that comment was based on Vypr's statements to the effect of "DarkStar is ST's Mike Wong."
Hmm it seemed to be that it was directed at the entire board itself. No matter, Vypr is considered an idiot on SB.com....no we don't place Village Idiot under their name but we probably should :D
That's what everyone I've heard from says. Maybe you guys should just ask him to try SD.net, for a change. If he really gets no respect there, you can claim that it would help him get his message out if he came here.
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Shocker wrote: So the opinion that SB.com is moronic is derived from one person? :?:
NO! I've been over this before on this thread. My opinion of the debate portion of SB.com is based on the fact that Vypr's ludicrous claims inspired no reprisals, or even comment, from the other users. This is indicative of the atmosphere in which the debates over there are run.
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Master of Ossus wrote:NO! I've been over this before on this thread. My opinion of the debate portion of SB.com is based on the fact that Vypr's ludicrous claims inspired no reprisals, or even comment, from the other users. This is indicative of the atmosphere in which the debates over there are run.
If that's your opinion then it's inherently flawed. Vypr did get a reprisal - from me!

Those who didn't like is "Anti-ICS Bitching", rather than just yelling back at him, informed me of it, I viewed it and bitchslapped the winging imbecile. He knows (or I hope he knows) that ICS-Bitching, and especially attacking Warsie's over it will not be tolerated.

And that's my biggest beef, and it comes from Vypr and PsykoSama. They're very content not to actually debate anything. They do a little ICS bitching, then proceed to slam all Warsie's as children with no idea how to debate.

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HBMC wrote:
Master of Ossus wrote:NO! I've been over this before on this thread. My opinion of the debate portion of SB.com is based on the fact that Vypr's ludicrous claims inspired no reprisals, or even comment, from the other users. This is indicative of the atmosphere in which the debates over there are run.
If that's your opinion then it's inherently flawed. Vypr did get a reprisal - from me!

Those who didn't like is "Anti-ICS Bitching", rather than just yelling back at him, informed me of it, I viewed it and bitchslapped the winging imbecile. He knows (or I hope he knows) that ICS-Bitching, and especially attacking Warsie's over it will not be tolerated.

And that's my biggest beef, and it comes from Vypr and PsykoSama. They're very content not to actually debate anything. They do a little ICS bitching, then proceed to slam all Warsie's as children with no idea how to debate.

BYE
Well to be fair I did my share of ICS bitching. But unlike Vypr and PsykoSama I made the disclaimer that as much as I don't like ICS, I have no proof against it. So I was voicing my opinion but I wasn't trying to dress it as fact. Thats part of the problem with Vypr and PsychoBoy. They state they don't like ICS AND they don't accept it.
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Hey, great! SFX goofs like the stormies armor are now indicitive of the actual way things are. Now TIEs can cloak, because we saw a shadow of a 4th tie when 3 were shown. And because we see some weird reflection when Han is running out of the bunker, that could be a personel shield the crew is wearing. Chewie is a cyborg because when he picks up threepios head in ESB, you see a reflection of what looks like a camera and for some weird reason a boom mike shown. Wars medical equipment is so good that it can function when it is not hooked up, like how it was backwards on Vader's chest in ANH. And lightsabres have a solid metal core to them that appears out of no where like we saw in Kenobi's during the DS fight. Plus our Corellian corvettes can change size in mid flight, so they will just shrink out of the way everytime Trek tries to target them.

And now Warp drive is impossible without somekind of strange string like material shooting off the ship like in TOS. There is no aft torpedo launcher on the GCS, it is just a tiny weapons array. Since we know from scaling in Way of the Warrior and ST3 that BoP are only about 50 m long, this means the GCS is only about 212 m long, as per this pic.

Do I need to go on about the sheer idiocy of taking SFX problems as accurate representation?
Beautiful. Give this guy a medal. DarkStar smacked down for his crack in stormtrooper armor nonsense.

Good one Redneck Jedi. I was on my ass. The guys at SB are blasting the shit out of him. I've liked SB better and better lately.
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Master of Ossus wrote:NO! I've been over this before on this thread. My opinion of the debate portion of SB.com is based on the fact that Vypr's ludicrous claims inspired no reprisals, or even comment, from the other users. This is indicative of the atmosphere in which the debates over there are run.
So Vypr makes a ludicrous claim.. same old, same old. If we reply, he ignores it. Same old, same old. It gets old. Repetitive. The same thing over and over again. And again. Later on, there's more of the same. And then we get to look forward to him doing it once more. Twice more. Thrice more. But he's not done yet... no, he's gonna try again. Was that a budge? Oh, nope, he's back to his anti-ICS whining again. Oh, look, he's gone and picked yet another fight with HDS. Oh, look, more anti-ICS posts. And again, and again, and again.

Maybe I should put that in a more compact form:

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do
{
    vypr.Make_Ludicrous_Claims();
    if(everyoneelse.tired_of_it == false) everyoneelse.Rebut();
}
while(true);
Sound familiar? It's gotten old. I've had to deal with him and Lokan in the past. It gets old after I throw everything I can at them in one thread, and then they go in pop up in another thread with the same stupid claims! Repeatedly. If you wanna go correct him, be my guest. Unlike him, we've learned. We've learned that it's better to ignore him than to let every SW thread he enters be derailed. We'll just correct anyone he attempts to convince; much easier than wasting ammo on someone with his own Wall of Ignorance.
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Kamakazie Sith wrote:I stand corrected then. However, I'll remind you that SB.com has been around for much longer than your arguement with Darkstar, at least what I've seen on here....maybe you've talked with him before the creation of the SD.net forums, but my point still stands that SB.com just got tired of dealing with it.
SB.com will ban somebody the minute they trash a mod or use foul language against him IIRC. I suspect that if Darkstar ran around screaming that Kier is a "gaping pussy" over and over and daring him to ban his ass, he would do it.
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(A repost from Spacebattles.)

Robert Scott Anderson's track record:

ASVS, Summer 2001-Winter 2001: Refused to concede a single point. Got ridiculed. Accused Warsies of conspiring against him. Disappeared for a while.

ASVS, Summer 2002-Winter 2002: Refused to concede again. Got ridiculed. Accused Warsies of conspiring against him. Left again.

SD.NET, Summer 2002-Fall 2002: Refused to concede. Got ridiculed. Accused Warsies of conspiring against him. Banned after viciously flaming owner.

SCN, Summer 2002-present: Brought some Trek/Wars ideas to an all-Trek forum and asked for comments. Argument erupted. All sides asked to shut up by group owner.

Spacebattles, Summer 2001-present: Refuses to concede, is being ridiculed, accuses Warsies of conspiring against him...
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Vympel wrote: Beautiful. Give this guy a medal. DarkStar smacked down for his crack in stormtrooper armor nonsense.

Good one Redneck Jedi. I was on my ass. The guys at SB are blasting the shit out of him. I've liked SB better and better lately.
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Mad wrote:

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do
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    vypr.Make_Ludicrous_Claims();
    if(everyoneelse.tired_of_it == false) everyoneelse.Rebut();
}
while(true);
Been studying C++ during some of my freetime, and that stuff looks a lot like it.
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jegs2 wrote:Been studying C++ during some of my freetime, and that stuff looks a lot like it.
I think it's bastardized JavaScript.
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jegs2 wrote:
Mad wrote:

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do
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    vypr.Make_Ludicrous_Claims();
    if(everyoneelse.tired_of_it == false) everyoneelse.Rebut();
}
while(true);
Been studying C++ during some of my freetime, and that stuff looks a lot like it.
That's because it is. ;) Of course, the classes instantiated as vypr and everyoneelse don't exist in any standard library that I know of, but the snippit will produce an infinite loop assuming they have been declared.
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Mad wrote:That's because it is. ;) Of course, the classes instantiated as vypr and everyoneelse don't exist in any standard library that I know of, but the snippit will produce an infinite loop assuming they have been declared.
That actually gave me the idea to create a JavaScript that, when run, will print random quotes from certain people...
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DipShit ran away, not like we're surprised that is.

At least he didn't claim it was a Warsie Conspiracy (yes, we're in with the Jews and the Martians :roll:) against him.

Maybe he won't come back, maybe he will. Either way, he'll lose his cool like he did here eventually, and I'll come down on him like a ton of bricks. I'd do no less to anyone else.

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Darth Wong wrote:The fact that fundies can exist on that board without having their stupidity disintegrated under a hailstorm of criticism is a rather profound statement in itself.
Mike, there are fundies all over the web. Sure, a few hang out at SB, but we (atleast I do, as well as quite a few others) pretty much ignore them, thus depriving them from their entertainment. They usually keep to themselves.
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HBMC wrote:DipShit ran away, not like we're surprised that is.

At least he didn't claim it was a Warsie Conspiracy (yes, we're in with the Jews and the Martians :roll:) against him.

Maybe he won't come back, maybe he will. Either way, he'll lose his cool like he did here eventually, and I'll come down on him like a ton of bricks. I'd do no less to anyone else.

BYE
Matt, check Mayhem's thread on Stormie armor. The fucktard is back. I posted clear evidence to disprove his "claims" and take a wild guess what he did. ;) I used his own "evidence" against him. :D
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Vertigo1 wrote:
HBMC wrote:DipShit ran away, not like we're surprised that is.

At least he didn't claim it was a Warsie Conspiracy (yes, we're in with the Jews and the Martians :roll:) against him.

Maybe he won't come back, maybe he will. Either way, he'll lose his cool like he did here eventually, and I'll come down on him like a ton of bricks. I'd do no less to anyone else.

BYE
Matt, check Mayhem's thread on Stormie armor. The fucktard is back. I posted clear evidence to disprove his "claims" and take a wild guess what he did. ;) I used his own "evidence" against him. :D
It's the only, even remotely consistent way of defeating him.
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Master of Ossus wrote:
Vertigo1 wrote:
HBMC wrote:DipShit ran away, not like we're surprised that is.

At least he didn't claim it was a Warsie Conspiracy (yes, we're in with the Jews and the Martians :roll:) against him.

Maybe he won't come back, maybe he will. Either way, he'll lose his cool like he did here eventually, and I'll come down on him like a ton of bricks. I'd do no less to anyone else.

BYE
Matt, check Mayhem's thread on Stormie armor. The fucktard is back. I posted clear evidence to disprove his "claims" and take a wild guess what he did. ;) I used his own "evidence" against him. :D
It's the only, even remotely consistent way of defeating him.
I disagree......

After watching that debate on SB.com rage, I have concluded that even if Paramount and George Lucas got together and made a ST vs. SW movie.....and it played out exactly like Mike Wongs fanfic.....Darkstar would still not conceed.
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Why is everyone so obsessed with hating darkstar? You don't have to get all pissed off. This is only a debate.
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Have you actually read or seen some of the stuff he puts?

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Yes i've read his website. But there's no reason to get all hateful when he brings up ideas that you would rather ignore.
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Because he's a not a likeable human being, infact he's an asshole, there is no reason to like such a deluded individual.
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