Zelda delayed to next year

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2005-08-17 01:43am

No, he's left-handed. I am ten-thousand percent positive.

McNum · Post by **McNum** » 2005-08-17 01:57pm

All 3D Links use their left hand for the sword. The 2D ones are ambidextrous due to sprite flippping, but I think they''re supposed to be left handed.

Abut the delay... I'm a little disappointed, but I trust they had a good reason to do so. Besides the coming autumn looks like it might be somewhat expensive anyway...

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2005-08-17 04:12pm

The 2D sprite Links were only right-handed when facing East, due to sprite flipping as you said. They were left-handed for every other direction, and pretty much any of the old Nintendo literature that brought up the subject stated Link was left handed (and for ALttP, came up with a goofy explenation that Hyrulians would switch swords to their right when facing East so their shield faces North, due to a superstition concerning warding away evil spirits from Death Mountain).

Otherwise, Link has always been regarded as left-handed.

Max · Post by **Max** » 2005-08-17 05:17pm

Maybe Nintendo wanted to focus more on the DS this holiday season. With wi-fi, and a crap load of good games coming out, they may have wanted to focus on staying ahead of the PSP, and not taking any attention away from the DS.

If they are going to delay it to make it even better, they might as well have it as a Rev. launch title, imo.

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2005-08-17 09:23pm

mplsjocc wrote:If they are going to delay it to make it even better, they might as well have it as a Rev. launch title, imo.

To quote Perrin Kaplan:

"In effect, because of the backward compatibility built into Revolution, every GameCube game also will be a Revolution title," she said. "But we feel a commitment to the GameCube owners who've been patiently awaiting this new Zelda title, and don't want to force them to wait and buy a brand new system in order to play the game."

IMHO it got delayed because Nintendo is working on two Zelda games at once. They already said they're making a Revolution Zelda.

Sharp-kun · Post by **Sharp-kun** » 2005-08-18 09:03am

Dooey Jo wrote: Not necessarily (about the beta-testing anyway). I read somewhere that there is some sort of Nintendo on Tour thing, where they would have the same demo available, that they had on E3. He probably played that one.

There is. Some friends played it through in Edinburgh last week.

Andrew J. · Post by **Andrew J.** » 2005-08-18 09:44am

Although this is disappointing, on one level I'm actually kind of relieved. There are a lot of games I want coming out this holiday season, and having one less to worry about will save me time AND money.

Tinkerbell · Post by **Tinkerbell** » 2005-08-18 10:48am

Ijust cried on the inside a little bit

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2005-08-18 10:50am

Freaks

I hope its delayed to make it better, and not because they realised they fucked up and had to backtrack to fix it.

The Grim Squeaker · Post by **The Grim Squeaker** » 2005-08-18 01:58pm

Ace Pace wrote:
the .303 bookworm wrote: Even more so, since I playtested it yesterday and it is a joy to play. (horseback combat rocks )
Wait.

EVERYONE HOLD THE PRESS.

Explain yourself.

When in the Seattle science center there was free playtesting for various upcoming games, they placed me on WWF:War 2, but I slipped one booth to the side (near the end) and played Zelda for 8 blessed minutes.
The graphics are great, the gameplay as intuitive as ever, and the playtesting free.

Max · Post by **Max** » 2005-08-18 03:19pm

Praxis wrote:
mplsjocc wrote:If they are going to delay it to make it even better, they might as well have it as a Rev. launch title, imo.

To quote Perrin Kaplan:
"In effect, because of the backward compatibility built into Revolution, every GameCube game also will be a Revolution title," she said. "But we feel a commitment to the GameCube owners who've been patiently awaiting this new Zelda title, and don't want to force them to wait and buy a brand new system in order to play the game."
IMHO it got delayed because Nintendo is working on two Zelda games at once. They already said they're making a Revolution Zelda.

I realize that, but there can be more than one Zelda game for a system, and I'm pretty sure that Zelda isn't going to be a launch title. It might not be a bad idea for Nintendo to push back Zelda to Revolution and consider the following situation:

Mario and Super Smash Bros: Melee ONLINE as launch titles. Then if they beef up Twilight princess for revolution, release it as launch title. If they DON"T beef it up for revolution, release it as launch title, but pack it in with the revolution system.

Chances are with ps3 and 360 out, twilight princess will still sell well, but it wont push systems. Sooooo.... think about it: revolution with a launch powerhouse lineup with mario and zelda titles and super smash bros ONLINE.

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2005-08-18 03:23pm

Well, Aonuma already said he's working on a Revolution Zelda game. Development has begun.

Max · Post by **Max** » 2005-08-18 03:43pm

Yeah, but when will that be out? I am pretty sure it wouldn't be until 2007.

Shifting Zelda over to the Revolution is the most logical path to take, thus near-guarenteeing that it will not be the route Nintendo takes. Seriously, it's a catch 22 for Nintendo: If they can it for Gamecube and move it over to revolution, they piss off alot of their supporters who stuck by them for the promise of a new Zelda title. If they please those Gamecube fans, they make less money and weaken the potential strength of their NEXT console launch. I say it's better to look to the future and concentrate on making the Revolution as appealing as possible.

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2005-08-18 03:59pm

On the other hand, releasing it at the last minute for GameCube encourages people that are not early adopters to get a GameCube (the cheapest system), encouraging them to eventually get a Revolution.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2005-08-18 04:16pm

Making TP for the Revolution would only mean delaying it for something like almost to more than a year.

It would also mean that they would have to do a near-total overhaul, since it would be for a next-generation system rather than a current one.

Frankly, I think the situation is damn fine the way it is.

Max · Post by **Max** » 2005-08-18 05:28pm

If they are already delaying it until March, they might as well delay it until the Rev launch, which would be just a couple months after.

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2005-08-18 06:55pm

mplsjocc wrote:If they are already delaying it until March, they might as well delay it until the Rev launch, which would be just a couple months after.

Provided they finish it up by March, there's no reason to delay it even further until the Revolution launches. That'd be stupid and Nintendo would be simply biting off its own arm if they did that. The outrage from fans would probably be enough to put a nice dent in Nintendo's pockets, considering that this was promised to be set on the GameCube.

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2005-08-18 10:16pm

Praxis wrote:IMHO it got delayed because Nintendo is working on two Zelda games at once. They already said they're making a Revolution Zelda.

Holy shit... There's already a Rev Zelda in the works? That's good news.

EDIT: Fixed quote tag. Grr...

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2005-08-18 10:33pm

Well, they better work on the Revolution Zelda for a good long time. Don't make it a launch title, for sure.

Then again, Zelda games never have been launch titles...

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2005-08-20 11:15pm

http://www.cube-europe.com/news.php?nid=8108

Max · Post by **Max** » 2005-08-21 02:37am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Making TP for the Revolution would only mean delaying it for something like almost to more than a year.

It would also mean that they would have to do a near-total overhaul, since it would be for a next-generation system rather than a current one.

Frankly, I think the situation is damn fine the way it is.

Why? The Rev is supposed to be backwards compatible with Gamecube games. It should play perfectly fine on the Rev without having to be overhauled.

Genii Lodus · Post by **Genii Lodus** » 2005-08-21 11:49am

I think Spanky was meaning that TP has been made as a GC game with current-gen quality graphics, sound, etc. It will work on the Revolution but it will also work on the Gamecube and there isn't any point delaying it from March to the Rev's launch.

And you can't possibly release a Gamecube-quality game as one of the centrepieces of a next-gen console launch! The vast majority of the gaming public who are concerned with the appearance of the game would judge the capability of the Revolution on that basis and not buy one.

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2005-08-21 01:25pm

Yeah, you'd have to at minimum quadruple the polygon count of every model in the game as well as the environments, add all kinds of effecst that weren't there before, etc. You'd basicly be redoing every object in the game.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2005-08-22 10:26pm

Yeah, Genii and Praxis, that's pretty much exactly what I meant.