I clicked on a couple of links of this 'debate':
++http://www.tccsa.tc/articles/p11.html
++http://www.tccsa.tc/articles/p3.html
++http://www.creationresource.org/read_reviews.htm
The one I found to be the most idiotic was a debate about how technologically advanced "ancient" people were, because they "lived longer prior to the flood...."
Here's a *cough* fascinating look at a response to AiG comment against ancient advancments.
AiG wrote: “Page 200 — Continues the theme of strong hints at the high technology before the Flood; to cement the fact that it is not just talking about some ingenuity, on page 201, it stretches Solomon's ‘nothing new under the sun' Bible comment to mean this: ‘Whatever we discover or invent has already existed in “ancient” time.' By definition, that means that laptop computers, atom bombs, moon rockets, MRI scanners, etc., are all not original, but were previously discovered and lost. This is obviously ‘stretching it' to an extreme point.”
Utterly amazing. . . . . . their 'logic'.creationresources.org wrote:There are a few of your review sections dedicated to attacking the notion of ancient high technology. It was two men who worked on bicycles that created and flew the first modern airplane; the Wright Brothers, late in 1903. Less than 66 years later (July 1969) the United States landed two men on the Moon. 66 years is not a very long time. Could our distant ancestors with clear minds and long life spans have had the equivalent of bicycle technology and internal combustion engines, prior to the Flood? Would you dogmatically argue against this?
If just one Isaac Newton, or Thomas Edison, or Albert Einstein lived prior to the Flood and had literally hundreds of years to experiment and do research, what could have been possible? What if there had been a handful of such sinful men building their respective research upon each other's discoveries? They had some 1600 years altogether, according to Scripture.
We know that modern evolutionists have been insisting for years now that if we find any kind of life at all outside of Earth then this will be proof positive for evolution. I must, as an educated layperson researcher, strongly disagree. There is another theory. Humans have always been intelligent but often unwise. However your highly vaunted science experts appear willing to concede such basic Creation Science understanding out of ignorance in the areas of human nature, Scripture, history and even the basic sciences.
We have a variety of anomalous human-made tools that have been found in deep strata. Some of these metal alloys cannot be duplicated today. The truth is that we do not know how some of them were made. Magnificent stone structures lie in mute testimony to the high technology of ages past. We do not have cranes today capable of lifting and moving some of the larger of these impressive edifices. You dare to challenge the theories that ancient man had higher technology in certain areas than we do today? You do so out of hubris and profound ignorance. Get your proverbial heads out of the sand and just look at the evidence. Your lack of scientific expertise in some areas shows that you should be reviewing this book in order to learn but not instead to criticize it at all costs.
What were the motives of your book reviewers? Do you not know the Scriptures? A basic principle deduced from the Word is that humans have always been intelligent but often unwise. Evolutionists though, teach that we're trending upward. Yes, from slime but now up to humans and someday we'll evolve even higher. But Scripture teaches that we're fallen though still made in the image of God. We can be extremely creative. We remain wicked and in need of a Savior. Your criticism of ancient high technology appears to concur with evolutionist propaganda and generalizations. This is disturbing. And it also appears to be at odds with both the scientific evidence that ancient man had high technology and Scriptural texts which reveal glimpses of this.
Have you not read:
Gen 4:20-22 (KJV) "And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and [of such as have] cattle. And his brother's name [was] Jubal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ. And Zillah, she also bare Tubalcain, an instructer of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tubalcain [was] Naamah."
Here in three short verses we see the summarized introduction of ranching, music and iron working. It's brief but nonetheless accurate. The evolutionists teach such progressive sounding concepts as "Bronze Age" then, many hundreds of years later, the "Iron Age," etc. You appear ready to join them in criticizing a plain reading of Scripture. Making iron implements had actually become known early in the antediluvian world. It was being taught by Tubalcain. That's what my Bible says. Would you so brazenly criticize summaries and generalizations within Scripture itself (like a succinct three verse summary) as you would those made by the author of "Unlocking the Mysteries of Creation"? Your experts appear to be selectively intolerant and generally lacking in love. I encourage AiG's science experts to study the Scriptures. There is much that they appear yet in need to learn by just reading and understanding the relevant verses at least one time through.