cloaks

[dragon]

Ok I know SW has cloaks for their ships was kind of curious if they had planteray scale ones like from the epsoide When the Bough Breaks seaon 1 TNG. Also are there any tech that would allow them to throw a ship like they did to the Enterprise.

[Dakarne]

First: It's useless to cloak a planet when every single area of space is already charted, they'll know where the planet's supposed to be and when.

Second: If you want to defend a planet, put a shield generator up there.

Third: For throwing spaceships, look up Centrepoint Station

[Quadlok]

While there isn't exactly a cloak for a planet, there is the orbital nightcloak, a seige weapon consisting of thousands of sattelites that absorb all solar radiation entering a planets atmosphere. Not something the inhabitants of a planet would willingly use on themselves, but it suggests that conventional Imperial cloaks could be networked in the same way. However, such cloaks do not hide an objects gravity well, and as such would be worse than useless on a planetary scale, as they are double blind.

[Darth Sephiroth]

I'd say that it's theoretically possible to pull off, but for the most part it would be a rather stupid move as you can't hide the gravity well, further, if it has a satelite, well, that would also need to be cloaked...

[The Jazz Intern]

According to Jedi academy, a planet was hidden by a jedi because of a weapon or somthing on the planet. So, yeah, I guess it's possible. Out of curiosity, why do you want to cloack a planet?

[Cykeisme]

In the Yalara mission of Jedi Academy, apparently a Jedi Master built the cloaking device on the planet simply to protect the tribal natives who were not yet advanced enough to meet the rest of the galaxy.
That makes little sense, because all you'd have to do is leave them alone.

In Rebel Assault 2, there was a large factory (big enough to be cover a considerable portion of a small moon iirc) that was cloaked entirely. It was built over the moon Imdaar Alpha, and was a research, development and manufacturing facility for cloaked starfighters ("Phantom TIEs").
Admittedly the Rebel Assault games are some sort of alternate reality, but the rest of the technology is identical (starfighters, cap ships etc) so there's no reason to think the similarities in technological capability don't go both ways.

Anyway, they're both from games, low on the canon scale, but there you have it.

[Solauren]

The planet cloak is easy to explain: There was something there people would want, and not care about the legalities or the Republic going 'bad'

(The Hutts come to mind)

And Rebel Assault 2 is in line with the canon of Star Wars, story line wise, just Rookie 1 never blew up the Death Star, he's probably one of the pilots that tried in the novel and missed

[StarshipTitanic]

And Rebel Assault 2 is in line with the canon of Star Wars, story line wise, just Rookie 1 never blew up the Death Star, he's probably one of the pilots that tried in the novel and missed

Does that mean he's the second person in Tycho Celchu's (No idea how to spell that) Y-wing? Only Wedge, Luke, and he escaped.

[Chris OFarrell]

And Rebel Assault 2 is in line with the canon of Star Wars, story line wise, just Rookie 1 never blew up the Death Star, he's probably one of the pilots that tried in the novel and missed

Does that mean he's the second person in Tycho Celchu's (No idea how to spell that) Y-wing? Only Wedge, Luke, and he escaped.

Rebel Assault isn't canon, period.

And only 3 fighter pilots survived Death Star I. Luke, Wedge and Farlander.

[Perseid]

And Rebel Assault 2 is in line with the canon of Star Wars, story line wise, just Rookie 1 never blew up the Death Star, he's probably one of the pilots that tried in the novel and missed

Does that mean he's the second person in Tycho Celchu's (No idea how to spell that) Y-wing? Only Wedge, Luke, and he escaped.

Tycho didn't join the Rebelion until after Yavin, and he flew a A-Wing into the second Death Star, he's never flown anything as slow and ungainly as a Y-Wing.

Back to OT, theres no reason I can think off why a planetary government would cloak a planet, when all they have to do is go "Turtle" and power up the plantary shields. Planet wide cloak would just be stupid in SW, since aren't all SW cloaks double blind?

[Dakarne]

Back to OT, theres no reason I can think off why a planetary government would cloak a planet, when all they have to do is go "Turtle" and power up the plantary shields. Planet wide cloak would just be stupid in SW, since aren't all SW cloaks double blind?

That, and a planet is always in a predictable location isn't it?

You know, with the Entire Galaxy being explored and that.

[Darth Fanboy]

That, and a planet is always in a predictable location isn't it?

You know, with the Entire Galaxy being explored and that.

Hence why there is a large chunk of space called "The Unknown Regions"

[Dakarne]

Hence why there is a large chunk of space called "The Unknown Regions"

You've got me on that one... I concede

But it would explain why they don't cloak planets usually... They could do it in the Unknown Regions at least.

[Manus Celer Dei]

There are also gravametric (sp?) sensors in SW that could probably be used to easily detect cloacked planets.

[Darth Fanboy]

There are also gravametric (sp?) sensors in SW that could probably be used to easily detect cloacked planets.

All one would need to do is get a map/scan of the system. Remember in AoTC when Obi Wan had a map of the area where Kamino was supposed to be and he could tell just by looking that a planet had to be there.

So cloaking a planet wouldn't buy very much time when a ship came in and looked around, even without the gravimetric sensors.

[Dakarne]

All one would need to do is get a map/scan of the system. Remember in AoTC when Obi Wan had a map of the area where Kamino was supposed to be and he could tell just by looking that a planet had to be there.

Isn't that essentially what I said?

Though in a different terminology?

[Cykeisme]

Even without specific 'gravimetric sensors', observation of the behaviour of objects in the system would reveal the presence and location of a planet-sized gravity well, wouldn't it?

Edit: Oh wait, that was already said twice, in two different ways. Never mind.

[Darth Fanboy]

Isn't that essentially what I said?

Though in a different terminology?

Why are you asking me? Could it be that your rambling is such you don't even know what you are talking about anymore?

That, and a planet is always in a predictable location isn't it?

See that little "?" at the end of your sentence I quoted there? It signifies that you asked a question, which was answered using AoTC as a source.

[Dakarne]

See that little "?" at the end of your sentence I quoted there? It signifies that you asked a question, which was answered using AoTC as a source.

Rhetoric is lost on you I take it...

Why are you asking me? Could it be that your rambling is such you don't even know what you are talking about anymore?

Rhetoric is lost on you I take it...

[Anomie]

Hence why there is a large chunk of space called "The Unknown Regions"

You've got me on that one... I concede

But it would explain why they don't cloak planets usually... They could do it in the Unknown Regions at least.

I thought that it was that during the begining of the Old Republic, they had mapped out the whole of the Galaxy, just to know where everything is, but left further exploration, like the discovery of useful ores or native species to follow up surveys that may not have happened by the time of the Empire and New Republic, hence the Unknown Region.

[Ender]

And Rebel Assault 2 is in line with the canon of Star Wars, story line wise, just Rookie 1 never blew up the Death Star, he's probably one of the pilots that tried in the novel and missed

Does that mean he's the second person in Tycho Celchu's (No idea how to spell that) Y-wing? Only Wedge, Luke, and he escaped.

Rebel Assault isn't canon, period.

And only 3 fighter pilots survived Death Star I. Luke, Wedge and Farlander.

Rebel assault is an interesting mix of canon and noncanon. the bits with the TIE phantoms and such are canon. However, the part where you destroy the DS is canon, though the explanatipn for that is that you are flying the mission in a flight simulator. This is similar to how Battlegrounds and Rebellion are canon - they are regarded as training programs for officers.

[Ender]

There are also gravametric (sp?) sensors in SW that could probably be used to easily detect cloacked planets.

And thermal imagers here on earth that could do the same thing. Thermodynamics make cloaks the single stupidest thing in scifi.

[Dakarne]

And thermal imagers here on earth that could do the same thing. Thermodynamics make cloaks the single stupidest thing in scifi.

Maybe they'll have accounted for that little technicality as well...

[Ender]

And thermal imagers here on earth that could do the same thing. Thermodynamics make cloaks the single stupidest thing in scifi.

Maybe they'll have accounted for that little technicality as well...

By all means child, explain how the fuck you get around entrophy. I'mm all ears. hell, we all are, because it means you just saved the fucking universe from its eventual heat death. So by all means, explain how you get around the base issue of waste heat.

If nothing else it will be your first relevent and multisentance post here.

[Dakarne]

I don't know how they'll have done it, but you have to remember one little tiny thing: It's Science Fiction, they'll have found at least some way around it, even if it's impossible in our own universe.