Star Trek's future?

FaxModem1 · Post by **FaxModem1** » 2002-11-27 12:51am

What will eventually happen to Trek? Nemesis is coming out soon, Enterprise is airing(ugghhh) and what will happen to the Trek movies?

DS9, the movie?

VOY, the movie?(bad image in my head)

OR

THe Adventures of the Ewoks err...tribbles, an animated show made to make Lucasfilm...err Paramount money.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2002-11-27 12:53am

B&B are planning ST11 and ST12. ST12 is said to include casts from multiple ST series.

As for the TV show, don't know.

FaxModem1 · Post by **FaxModem1** » 2002-11-27 12:54am

Where did you get the info?

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2002-11-27 12:54am

Oh, and take a load of this from Berman:

Berman wrote:“I can tell you right now we’ll be making another film,” Berman says. “There’s never been a STAR TREK movie that wasn’t profitable for Paramount. One of the things about STAR TREK movies is there’s no risk in making them because the studio knows if you spend this much money on producing the film, you’re going to make that much money, or you might make that much money. But there’s pretty much a window of the profitability of these films… unlike non-STAR TREK films which could be total wrecks and not make a dime, or could take off and make $200 million, there’s a risk involved. There’s very little risk involved in STAR TREK films, so I think we’re a long way from seeing the end.”

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2002-11-27 12:55am

FaxModem1 wrote:Where did you get the info?

http://www.cinescape.com/0/editoria...38&obj_id=37014

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2002-11-27 12:56am

Shinova wrote:
FaxModem1 wrote:Where did you get the info?

http://www.cinescape.com/0/editoria...38&obj_id=37014

Fixed link: http://www.cinescape.com/0/editorial.as ... j_id=37014

FaxModem1 · Post by **FaxModem1** » 2002-11-27 12:57am

NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think I am going to cry when B&B get their hands on the newest Trek movie.

Star Trek XII:Too Tired

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2002-11-27 12:57am

Shinova wrote:B&B are planning ST11 and ST12. ST12 is said to include casts from multiple ST series.

As for the TV show, don't know.

Okay, forget about ST12. I'm not sure about that one.

FaxModem1 · Post by **FaxModem1** » 2002-11-27 01:01am

Did you get where I got the title from?

How big is Berman's checkbook anyway? I mean, just how much money has he earned from his mingiling?

Post by **Vympel** » 2002-11-27 01:03am

Shoot Berman- then I will warm to the idea of ST XI.

FaxModem1 · Post by **FaxModem1** » 2002-11-27 01:09am

Sadly, assination is illegal in this country

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-11-27 01:14am

Damn it. Just goes to show that he's just in it for the money. Bastard.

FaxModem1 · Post by **FaxModem1** » 2002-11-27 01:37am

You mean, they don't care about the show and just want cash, wow, I am totally shocked.(sarcasm)

Seriusly though, I thought they were just idiots who thought what they were doing was art.

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2002-11-27 01:47am

FaxModem1 wrote:What will eventually happen to Trek?

It will continue to sink into the quicksand of its own mediocrity, festering and rotting every painful inch of the way until the stench of decay so fills the nostrils of the dimmest, most fanatical Trekkoid that even one of these beknighted creatures will not be able to stand it anymore.

Star Trek's future?

It hasn't got one.

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2002-11-27 02:19am

ST 11: The Continuation Of Stupidity

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2002-11-27 02:39am

STX!: the return of KHANNIE!!!

With his new lover Borg Queenie!!!

And you know I think this sick idea would be in B&B's mind

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2002-11-27 02:40am

Shinova wrote:Oh, and take a load of this from Berman:

Berman wrote:“I can tell you right now we’ll be making another film,” Berman says. “There’s never been a STAR TREK movie that wasn’t profitable for Paramount. One of the things about STAR TREK movies is there’s no risk in making them because the studio knows if you spend this much money on producing the film, you’re going to make that much money, or you might make that much money. But there’s pretty much a window of the profitability of these films… unlike non-STAR TREK films which could be total wrecks and not make a dime, or could take off and make $200 million, there’s a risk involved. There’s very little risk involved in STAR TREK films, so I think we’re a long way from seeing the end.”

Berman? Only interested in money? How can he be only interested in money if that quote above clearly shows his obvious lack of any knowledge in money matters?

I don't think it's money. I think Berman And Braga have somehow gotten into their heads the notion that Star Trek is their baby, their favorite playtoy.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-11-27 02:45am

It says that Berman knows that a ST film will make money no matter how shitty it is. That means that he cares about the money rather than the quality of ST.

"One of the things about STAR TREK movies is there's no risk in making them because the studio knows if you spend this much money on producing the film, you're going to make that much money, or you might make that much money."

See. Right here. He has the idea that just spending money will make it profitable without worrying about quality. He just wants a profitable film to make money, not to make a good movie.

Evil Sadistic Bastard · Post by **Evil Sadistic Bastard** » 2002-11-27 04:13am

Future of Star Trek - Further down the toilet.

Dooey Jo · Post by **Dooey Jo** » 2002-11-27 01:06pm

We have all seen "planet of the apes". So we all know what's going to happen to Star Trek; a bunch of apes will conquer the federation and enslave them all

...
But not until Paramount stops earning money from it, of course...

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-11-27 01:12pm

Star Trek has no future. It's dying slowly before our very eyes. I wouldn't be suprised if Nemesis is another big nail in the coffin. It's going to be a horrible movie in all likelyhood.

Basically the horrible, horrible writing and managment of Trek will kill it. Enterforaprize has lost a lot of the hardcore fans. Sooner or later it's just going to die.

Damn, B&b for that. Trek used to be GREAT for fuck's sake!

Typhonis 1 · Post by **Typhonis 1** » 2002-11-27 01:51pm

Alas poor Trek .I knew it Horatio .A good and nobel series about mans quest i the future .Till those who shall not be named decided they would make it easy for all to understand.Out went continiuity but that can be explained however out with common sense cannot. thus we bid farewell to Trek ere we meet it again some day in a new and better form

Oberleutnant · Post by **Oberleutnant** » 2002-11-27 03:53pm

B&B and Paramount will keep making Treks as long as they draw audiences, and it seems that the quality of the product doesn't matter that much for Trekkers/Trekkies/whatever who are still going to watch them simply because they carry the name Star Trek or Enterprise. Unfortunately Voyager and Enterprise have gained new fans who didn't previously Trek, which means that we'll be probably enjoying the Trek universe for years to come.

Because they are afraid to make any big changes to the concept (remember how Enterprise was supposed to be different from previous Treks?) or try something original (how many times Archer & co have been taken hostages during the first two seasons? six times?), I'm not optimistic about the future of Trek.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2002-11-27 05:07pm

I think modern Trek is a fucking tragidy. I grew up as a kid watching TOS and the early series's of TNG. They were classic, then Paramount had the notion of butting Berman and Branagh in charge. Under B&B Trek has fell to new lows. Even going so far in one book as to have Riker say that in the modern era Kerk is reguarded as a myth, "If Kirk was involved in half the missions that were reported, his 5-year mission would have lasted 20". B&B seem to have a policy of pissing on any work they aren't getting royalties for. I wish them a quick yet painful death.

Oberleutnant · Post by **Oberleutnant** » 2002-11-27 06:43pm

B&B have absolutely nothing to do with the Trek literature. As you may have noticed, Trek novels are not considered canon and have almost nothing to do with the shows themselves. Your blame should be aimed at the publisher, which is Pocket Books, and its editors at the Trek department.