Star Dreadnought - Where did the term originate?
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Star Dreadnought - Where did the term originate?
I recall someone saying Saxton got this name off of an old official source pertaining to the Executor. Could that person (or any other who knows about it) please state what source this was? (It´s for an on-going debate.)
the use of the word dreadnaught first appeared in the old marvel comics. It then was used in a roundabout fashion to describ the massive EX-F in the black fleet crisis books (no, it wasn't a rendelli one, it was explicetly said that none ofthe ships of the black fleet were smaller then a star destroyer, so it has to be bigger then 900 meters lonmg and the NEGC implies a power output far beyond a regular Imperator). It was also used in The Fianl Prophecy to describe a very large Vong capital ship and shatterpoint to describe a geonosian capital ship.
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I don't think so...... I'm doing my own search though.VT-16 wrote:So the word 'dreadnaught' in those Marvel stories referred to the Executor, correct? You wouldn´t happen to know the issue(s), would you? (Thanks anyway, this helps.)
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It was Admiral John Fisher, the First Sea Lord, was the driving-force behind the development of the Dreadnought that was built at Portsmouth Dockyard between October 1905 and December 1906. The Dreadnought was the most heavily-armed ship in history. She had ten 12-inch guns (305 mm), whereas the previous record was four 12-inch guns. The gun turrets were situated higher than user and so facilitated more accurate long-distance fire. In addition to her 12-inch guns, the Dreadnought also had twenty-four 3-inch guns (76 mm) and five torpedo tubes below water. In the waterline section of her hull, the Dreadnought was armoured by plates 28 cm thick.
The Dreadnought was the first major warship driven solely by steam turbines. The four sets of Parsons steam turbines with a total output of 24,700 h.p. were used. The Dreadnought was also faster than any other warship and could reach speeds of 21 knots. A total of 526 feet long (160.1 metres) the Dreadnought had a crew of over 800 men.
The design of the Dreadnought was so revolutionary that all similar warships were also called Dreadnoughts. The introduction of this new warship resulted in an arms race between Britain and Germany. By 1914 the British Navy had nineteen Dreadnoughts (thirteen under construction), compared with Germany's thirteen (seven under construction). Other fleets with Dreadnoughts at sea by 1914 were: United States (8), France (8), Japan (4), Austria-Hungary (2) and Italy (1).
In 1915 Britain produced the Queen Elizabeth, the first of the Super-Dreadnoughts. This warship had eight 15-inch guns, each capable of firing a 1,920-pound projectile 35,000 yards. This was followed by four other ships of this design: Warspite, Barham, Valiant and Malaya. All five ships survived the First World War, and heavily modified, served in the Second World War.
From: http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/FWWdreadnought.htm
The Dreadnought was the first major warship driven solely by steam turbines. The four sets of Parsons steam turbines with a total output of 24,700 h.p. were used. The Dreadnought was also faster than any other warship and could reach speeds of 21 knots. A total of 526 feet long (160.1 metres) the Dreadnought had a crew of over 800 men.
The design of the Dreadnought was so revolutionary that all similar warships were also called Dreadnoughts. The introduction of this new warship resulted in an arms race between Britain and Germany. By 1914 the British Navy had nineteen Dreadnoughts (thirteen under construction), compared with Germany's thirteen (seven under construction). Other fleets with Dreadnoughts at sea by 1914 were: United States (8), France (8), Japan (4), Austria-Hungary (2) and Italy (1).
In 1915 Britain produced the Queen Elizabeth, the first of the Super-Dreadnoughts. This warship had eight 15-inch guns, each capable of firing a 1,920-pound projectile 35,000 yards. This was followed by four other ships of this design: Warspite, Barham, Valiant and Malaya. All five ships survived the First World War, and heavily modified, served in the Second World War.
From: http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/FWWdreadnought.htm
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On that thought of the Real dreadnaught
Who do you think made the most powerful warship to date? (excluding carriers)
BTW have you heard what the dimwits in sanfrancisco are doing with the IOWA?
BTW have you heard what the dimwits in sanfrancisco are doing with the IOWA?
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Re: On that thought of the Real dreadnaught
We know. This isn't the forum for such discussions, however.Johnathon_Chance wrote:Who do you think made the most powerful warship to date? (excluding carriers)
BTW have you heard what the dimwits in sanfrancisco are doing with the IOWA?
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I'd love some confirmation, I got the marvel comics bit second hand from TFN. No idea personally if it is right or not.PainRack wrote:I don't think so...... I'm doing my own search though.VT-16 wrote:So the word 'dreadnaught' in those Marvel stories referred to the Executor, correct? You wouldn´t happen to know the issue(s), would you? (Thanks anyway, this helps.)
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IIRC, I was the one who brought it up. I'm trying to trace the comic by redigging through every issue in the public library, but so far, no luck.Ender wrote: I'd love some confirmation, I got the marvel comics bit second hand from TFN. No idea personally if it is right or not.
However, it also isn't very good because the comics called the ISD a battlecruiser. Apparently, it took a different meaning to the term Imperial Star Destroyer. It was an Imperial ship, Star Destroyer class battle cruiser.
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Re: On that thought of the Real dreadnaught
To Date means: October 1905 and December 1906Johnathon_Chance wrote:Who do you think made the most powerful warship to date? (excluding carriers)
BTW have you heard what the dimwits in sanfrancisco are doing with the IOWA?
Hrm, so "Star Destroyer" can be the a superclass name, while the Imperators are in fact battlecruisers?
I have to say, even without taking proper terminology and whatnot into account, the word "dreadnought" sounds fucking ominous and kickass. "Executor-class Star Dreadnought"... mmmm yeah...
I have to say, even without taking proper terminology and whatnot into account, the word "dreadnought" sounds fucking ominous and kickass. "Executor-class Star Dreadnought"... mmmm yeah...
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