carm.org wrote:
Finally, there is a group of atheists that I call militant atheists. They are, fortunately, few in number. They are usually highly insulting and profoundly terse in their comments to theists, particularly Christians. I’ve encountered a few of them and they are vile, rude, and highly condescending. Their language is full of insults, profanity, and blasphemies. Basically, no meaningful conversation can be had with them at all.
Sounds like he was mistaken for a naughty monkey and got spanked.
Via money Europe could become political in five years" "... the current communities should be completed by a Finance Common Market which would lead us to European economic unity. Only then would ... the mutual commitments make it fairly easy to produce the political union which is the goal"
I've always wondered how, as an atheist I can blaspheme. I don't have a god to blaspheme against.
Also, why is Team Fundy always suprised when the atheist gets annoyed? Check out their caption at the top of their website. No wonder the conversation always goes downhill.
Don't abandon democracy folks, or an alien star-god may replace your ruler. - NecronLord
"There is a group of people who are so arrogant they cannot accept beliefs other than their own. Whether athiest, Christian, Muslim, or Jew, they are highly insulting, and profoundly terse in their comments to those of other beliefs. Basically, no meaningful conversation can be had with them at all."
There are athiests like this.
There are Christians like this, Jews like this, etc.
It's got nothing to do with one's belief system, just with their arrogance.
Great science belongs to everybody. ~Dr. S. "Jim" Gates, Ph.D.
Ok, this just pisses me off. Atheists can't have an absolute moral code, and thus only behave morally because the legal system forces them to for practicality's sake? Fuck you, you arrogant fucking prick. I think I know right from wrong for myself, thanks. Go sodomize yourself with a briar pitchfork. The way this is written is even worse. It sounds just like the same bullshit you'd hear in a 17th century European country talking about the "uncivilized" savages of the Americas. "They don't know any better" and all that bullshit. I fucking know damn well that killing and stealing are wrong and I don't need a legal system or some imaginary whack-job to tell me that.
What is it about the Religious Right that makes them feel so high and mighty? The fact that they believe in God? Good for them. They have an imaginary friend and a nice comfort blanket. So did I, when I was five. Then I grew up and learned about the world.
*sigh* [/rant]
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"We are all atheists about most of the gods that societies have ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further." -Richard Dawkins
RenegadePhysicist wrote:A better way for the article to read is:
"There is a group of people who are so arrogant they cannot accept beliefs other than their own. Whether athiest, Christian, Muslim, or Jew, they are highly insulting, and profoundly terse in their comments to those of other beliefs. Basically, no meaningful conversation can be had with them at all."
There are athiests like this.
There are Christians like this, Jews like this, etc.
It's got nothing to do with one's belief system, just with their arrogance.
I find that statement fallacious. One can be highly insulting in one's speech and still hold meaningful conversation. For demonstration: fuck you. That last insult did not in any way detract from the arguement before it. Furthermore, refusing to accept other beliefs is not always arrogant. That would make everyone who doesn't hold every belief system seem arrogant. Not believing in Islam doesn't make you vain. It's presuming that your belief system is better than theirs without any proof that's arrogant.
"If one needed proof that a guitar was more than wood and string, that a song was more than notes and words, and that a man could be more than a name and a few faded pictures, then Robert Johnson’s recordings were all one could ask for."
Ok, this just pisses me off. Atheists can't have an absolute moral code, and thus only behave morally because the legal system forces them to for practicality's sake? Fuck you, you arrogant fucking prick. I think I know right from wrong for myself, thanks. Go sodomize yourself with a briar pitchfork. The way this is written is even worse. It sounds just like the same bullshit you'd hear in a 17th century European country talking about the "uncivilized" savages of the Americas. "They don't know any better" and all that bullshit. I fucking know damn well that killing and stealing are wrong and I don't need a legal system or some imaginary whack-job to tell me that.
What is it about the Religious Right that makes them feel so high and mighty? The fact that they believe in God? Good for them. They have an imaginary friend and a nice comfort blanket. So did I, when I was five. Then I grew up and learned about the world.
*sigh* [/rant]
Whew! . . . That was a vicious post. I'm sure you've heard that one before.
To answer the question, yes, they feel high and mighty since they are called, according to the Bible, God's 'kings and priests', heirs of God. They've been chosen. . . . . . . I'll be posting another thead about the whole 'predestination' thing.
Ok, this just pisses me off. Atheists can't have an absolute moral code, and thus only behave morally because the legal system forces them to for practicality's sake?
Ironic.
Usually the morality of Christians is based on the fear of punishment from the Big Sky Psycho.
The only moral absolute is that the Big Sky Psycho is right, and if you don't agree he'll stick you in hell for all eternity.
"This is the worst kind of discrimination. The kind against me!" - Bender (Futurama)
"Why waste time learning, when ignorance is instantaneous?" - Hobbes (Calvin and Hobbes)
"It's all about context!" - Vince Noir (The Mighty Boosh)
Oh the poor Christians, having to listen to all us obnixious militant atheist. We're on every other AM station on the radio and several on the FM, we've got at least three dedicated cable television channels in each market, we've got billboards, bookstrores, tracts, politicians, dedicated music production companies, large buildings with pointed roofs, nukes, knives, sharp sticks... How can the oh so delicate Christians live their lives under such adversity I wonder.
The most basic assumption about the world is that it does not contradict itself.
The average fundie's idea of a "militant" atheist is an atheist who dares identify himself in public or worse yet, one who demands to be treated with respect.
Don't you know? We atheists are supposed to hide in the shadows, never revealing ourselves so that we will not offend the Christians with our godless presence. And we certainly must not be allowed to live our lives as we see fit, or withold our tax dollars from Christian religious organizations.
"It's not evil for God to do it. Or for someone to do it at God's command."- Jonathan Boyd on baby-killing
"you guys are fascinated with the use of those "rules of logic" to the extent that you don't really want to discussus anything."- GC
"I do not believe Russian Roulette is a stupid act" - Embracer of Darkness
"Viagra commercials appear to save lives" - tharkûn on US health care.
Gotta love the fundies. On the abortion issue, does he know that christians endorsed abortions in the 19th century? Claiming atheists have no moral compass because they reflect their society is definitly the pot calling the kettle black.
Also, why do they always miss one definition of atheist? Someone who refuses to worship or acknowledge any gods.
For example, the Sun is a recognised god by many cultures, as is the Earth, several God-Emperors have lurched through history and Bits of shaped rocks that are 'gods' abound. I refuse to acknowledge or worship any of them as gods. Same goes for Invisible sky pixies.
Especially Invisible Sky Pixies. The one in the Bible is a total loon. I certainly wouldn't follow it.
Don't abandon democracy folks, or an alien star-god may replace your ruler. - NecronLord
Darth Wong wrote:The average fundie's idea of a "militant" atheist is an atheist who dares identify himself in public or worse yet, one who demands to be treated with respect.
Don't you know? We atheists are supposed to hide in the shadows, never revealing ourselves so that we will not offend the Christians with our godless presence. And we certainly must not be allowed to live our lives as we see fit, or withold our tax dollars from Christian religious organizations.
We have the audacity to say "The Emperor Wears No Clothes", refuse to play their fairy-tale game, and are the biggest threat to their house of cards bullshit just because we refuse to play along; religion relies on participatory delusion and the fact a rational observation of that even exists drives those with extra strong belief into a frothing rage.
I wonder if creationists are trying to make up for Adam's mistake of eating the apple by ignoring as much knowledge as they can. Perhaps stupidity is a valid goal for these people after all...
I managed to get through a couple of pages in the "Atheist" section, but all I saw were typical arguments. The bible says this and that, but if it doesn't you're interpreting it wrong, morals come from god, etc. It's very telling how he goes into this pseudo-logical monologue explaining how to confront a person who asks "Why believe in Christianity over all other religions" and ends it with "Either Jesus is true and all other religions are false or other religions are true and Jesus is false. There are no other options. I choose to follow the risen Lord Jesus."
Sad, but not any sadder than the rest of the stuff I've read.
It's not like there are atheists out there trying to threaten everyone into not believing in a god, why do so many religious people make it their life's mission to try and talk atheists (or followers of other religions) to believe as they do? That whole "let's save some atheists" line doesn't begin to describe how evil that really is.
Was God not a real Christian when he killed numerous city-fuls of people, some of whom would've had to be pregnant?
"If one needed proof that a guitar was more than wood and string, that a song was more than notes and words, and that a man could be more than a name and a few faded pictures, then Robert Johnson’s recordings were all one could ask for."
wolveraptor wrote:Was God not a real Christian when he killed numerous city-fuls of people, some of whom would've had to be pregnant?
No, he was Jewish at the time. As any good fundie knows, Jews killed the messiah and are therefore all evil.
"everytime a person is born the Earth weighs just a little more."--DMJ on StarTrek.com
"You see now you are using your thinking and that is not a good thing!" DMJay on StarTrek.com
"Watching Sarli argue with Vympel, Stas, Schatten and the others is as bizarre as the idea of the 40-year-old Virgin telling Hugh Hefner that Hef knows nothing about pussy, and that he is the expert."--Elfdart
Maybe next year, God'll be Hindu and we can segregate fundies into a caste.
Thought technically, if you take the OT with NT, Jesus was always there with God, as a part of the trinity (hence the use of words like "us" in Genesis when describing what man would be like). So God didn't "change" religions. He simply altered the existing one (Judaism).
"If one needed proof that a guitar was more than wood and string, that a song was more than notes and words, and that a man could be more than a name and a few faded pictures, then Robert Johnson’s recordings were all one could ask for."
Darth Servo wrote:No, he was Jewish at the time. As any good fundie knows, Jews killed the messiah and are therefore all evil.
My favorite rebuttal to the "Jews killed Jesus" thing is "If Jews killed the Messiah, that means Jesus is guilty of suicide by proxy. Off to Hell with him."
wolveraptor wrote:Maybe next year, God'll be Hindu and we can segregate fundies into a caste.
Unfortunately IIRC, in hinduism, the priests are the HIGHEST caste. That is NOT where we would want Fundies to be.
Thought technically, if you take the OT with NT, Jesus was always there with God, as a part of the trinity (hence the use of words like "us" in Genesis when describing what man would be like). So God didn't "change" religions. He simply altered the existing one (Judaism).
Oh well. Christianity still didn't exist before the first century.
"everytime a person is born the Earth weighs just a little more."--DMJ on StarTrek.com
"You see now you are using your thinking and that is not a good thing!" DMJay on StarTrek.com
"Watching Sarli argue with Vympel, Stas, Schatten and the others is as bizarre as the idea of the 40-year-old Virgin telling Hugh Hefner that Hef knows nothing about pussy, and that he is the expert."--Elfdart
Darth Wong wrote:The average fundie's idea of a "militant" atheist is an atheist who dares identify himself in public or worse yet, one who demands to be treated with respect.
Don't you know? We atheists are supposed to hide in the shadows, never revealing ourselves so that we will not offend the Christians with our godless presence. And we certainly must not be allowed to live our lives as we see fit, or withold our tax dollars from Christian religious organizations.
Ahhh, so thats what its like to be a Sith
Via money Europe could become political in five years" "... the current communities should be completed by a Finance Common Market which would lead us to European economic unity. Only then would ... the mutual commitments make it fairly easy to produce the political union which is the goal"
I'm sure you've heard that one before.
