Borg weapons: what are they?

[Lord Sauron-Tyranus-Vader]

So, I watched first Contact a few days ago, and I was wondering: what are those beam weapons the cube uses? I was wondering whether they're phasers, disrupters, or some other weapon. what do you guys think?

PS: Im not a newbie anymore! Yay!

[Mark S]

I think there was Voyager episode where they called them disruptors. But that's Voyager...

[Lord Sauron-Tyranus-Vader]

I think there was Voyager episode where they called them disruptors. But that's Voyager...

Damn right. Who can trust B&B?

[Ender]

I thought they had 3 weapons. The force plasma (plasma torpedos), the cutting lasers, and some disruptors.

Then they have the tractor beam and what not.

[Lord Sauron-Tyranus-Vader]

I thought they had 3 weapons. The force plasma (plasma torpedos), the cutting lasers, and some disruptors.

Then they have the tractor beam and what not.

Well, I knew they had cutting lasers and plasma lauchers, but we're not sure whether the other weapon is a disrupter or not.

[Alyeska]

The Borg have also used a tractor beam like weapon as both a weapon (causing damage) and ensnaring device.

[Master of Ossus]

The Borg have used many weapons, including an aparently modified tractor beam that does damage (ref. BoBW), a cutting laser (ref. BoBW), disruptor-like weapons (BoBW, FC, Scorpion IIRC), and torpedoes (ref. ST:FC).

[Vertigo1]

Actually, those green things shown in First Contact were plasma cannon bursts as well. Even a piece of metal the size of a 17" CRT would do more damage KE wise than what was shown in First Contact so they obviously aren't any kind of metallic object, which rules out any torpedoes. (ST:V being the exception in this....damn that movie!)

[data_link]

Borg weapons: what are they?

Stupid.

[Ender]

. (ST:V being the exception in this....damn that movie!)

There is no such movie as ST:V

[Vympel]

. (ST:V being the exception in this....damn that movie!)

There is no such movie as ST:V

Would the appropriate way to say it be STV?

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

So, I watched first Contact a few days ago, and I was wondering: what are those beam weapons the cube uses? I was wondering whether they're phasers, disrupters, or some other weapon. what do you guys think?

They use disruptors, tractor beams, torpedoes and shield wackers.

PS: Im not a newbie anymore! Yay!

Your a fucking spammer. 64 posts a day!

[Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi]

So, I watched first Contact a few days ago, and I was wondering: what are those beam weapons the cube uses? I was wondering whether they're phasers, disrupters, or some other weapon. what do you guys think?

PS: Im not a newbie anymore! Yay!

You've only been here 2 days. You're still a newbie.

(Pokes LSTV)

Can anyone give an estimate at the power of these Borg weapons?

[Shinova]

I think it'd be safe to assume that the Borg just use a wide variety of weapons depending on the situation at hand.

[Shinova]

I think it'd be safe to assume that the Borg just use a wide variety of weapons depending on the situation at hand.

Now if only they could adapt tactical-wise as well as technologically, and had a more of a mean streak, then the Borg would be perfect


Note: Why is it that I can edit some posts and not others?

[data_link]

Because some of your posts are in the ST vs. SW forum and/or the Other sci-fi. forum, and some of them are in forums where editing is allowed. Personally, I think it's stupid to disallow editing in ST vs SW now that Darkstar is no longer allowed to post here, but I'll leave any policy changes up to Wong.

[Vertigo1]

. (ST:V being the exception in this....damn that movie!)

There is no such movie as ST:V

So "The Final Frontier" never existed eh? Damn! Guess they forgot one.

[beyond hope]

The Borg can't be using lasers, because the navigational deflectors stop those.

My theory is that the Borg have learned to harness the dread power of technobabble. Their weapons fire bolts or beams of pure, hellish technobabble energy at their targets. It's just a theory, but I think it accounts for a lot. The inconsistancy from one episode to the next is easy to explain: one can never predict how technobabble's characteristics will alter from one day to the next. It also goes a long way towards explaining how a Borg drone can adapt to phaser fire while at the same time remaining vulnerable to a *tommygun*. Finally, it explains *so* much about Borg tactics (or lack thereof.) Imagine what uncounted centuries of exposure to technobabble energy fields would do to your brain?

On second thought, don't imagine that... I just did and I think I'll have nightmares all week

[Alyeska]

The Borg can't be using lasers, because the navigational deflectors stop those.

On the E-Ds first encounter the Borg used a laser to cut into the saucer section. And guess what it just s happened to pass through to do this? We never see the navigational deflectors being useful as a combat shield, yet they would have stopped the lasers in the one example. It shows that anything with power can pass right through the navigational defelctors, as did the Borg laser.

[Evil Sadistic Bastard]

Borg weapons: what are they?

Stupid.

While absolutely correct, what brand of stupid are they? Wimpy-ass cutting laser stupid? Craptastic plasma torp stupid? Or maybe even "all-style-and-no-substance-makes-for-flashy-wins" stupid.

[SirNitram]

The tractor beam does not appear to do damage normally, but appears to be a shield draining weapon instead. Note they've been able to tractor ships(Voyager, for example) without incurring damage to their structure.

[beyond hope]

I always thought the cutting beam was some sort of tractor beam, based on the way it sliced a piece out of the saucer and carried it off to the borg cube. It's been a *long* time since I saw that episode, I was just left with that impression.

[Uraniun235]

No, it looked very much like a laser; what happened was the tractor beam was locked on to the section, and then a laser carved out the section, allowing the beam to pull it free.

I think Data or someone mentioned a "cutting beam", not sure.

The tractor beam has been shown to do damage (see the DS9 pilot); my guess is that it's a shearing force that rips apart the hull. Or it might wreak havoc with the ship's SIFs, since they had all the knowledge of Picard to go on; they might very well have tailored the tractors to fuck with Federation ships especially well.

[Vertigo1]

The tractor beam does not appear to do damage normally, but appears to be a shield draining weapon instead. Note they've been able to tractor ships(Voyager, for example) without incurring damage to their structure.

Yet with the same beam, they can blow half the saucer off of an Excelsior in a single blast (after shields are drained of course). They obviously have several modes.