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I think it already has that...

At least, I don't recall ever seeing the speakers when someone's listening to music.
Oh, but I mean proper Sub-Woofer speakers which could shatter glass...

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I would go for a non-refitted Constitution, I love its looks. The first thing I would do, would be filling the computer with information on the SW universe, especially maps are important. I would completely rip out anything that's meant for the crew, leaving maybe five huts and a small bit of recreational facilities for me and any possible guests. I would remove most science equipment. I would upgrade the translator to be able to translate the SW languages while buying a protocol droid so I can pretend that I have to wait for the translation of my droid (might give me an advantage in a business deal :wink: ). The bridge would be completely redone. Visually it will be almost exactly the same, except that this time, the captain can comfortably control anything from the captains chair using a bunch of pop up controls and screens. The pop up controls will have both the old ST type and a control stick, for normal flight and high speed manoeuvring during combat respectively. I’ll also add decent seatbelts, I need to focus on flying the damn ship during battles, not on staying in my seat :roll: ! I would also redo all the consoles so that the only way to cause them to explode would be by using a bomb. Since I just removed the crew's homes, I'll replace them with droids, namely astromechs for maintenance and repairs, protocol droids to take care of any guests and maybe left over battle droids from the clone wars as general crew, unarmed. I'll install recharge systems all over the ship, neatly concealed behind corridors. The droid crew will function as a real ship crew, except that they will be easily replaced, don't rest (except for recharging), are completely obedient (or else!) and off course the battle droids are better in combat than the average feddie, if decently programmed and given some armour plating. I'll take the no creativity thing, because I'll be making all the decisions that aren't routine anyway. The armoury will get apart from the standard phasers (they are handy if you want to pull of something different than blowing up stuff) a couple of good blasters. Blasters will also be hidden all over the ship in a similar way to the droid recharge stations, with some security measures to prevent any unwanted guests to pick them up. That way, the droids can act all harmless and unarmed (with the exception of a small security team who are there to make the guests feel safe) while still allowing nearly all the droids to pick up a gun at a moments notice and turn the ship into a really hostile area to board. I'll keep the replicators if they already had them then. They will be used to keep the ship running, feed me and for droid maintainance. Once I've done that, I should have quite a bit of space thanks to everything I removed. This space will be used by generators and shields mostly, both from the SW universe. I'll replace the phasers with the best Turbo Lasers (normally concealed within the hull if there is still room) possible, going for higher fire rates over brute strength (fighters will be my problem, not bigger ships, I run away from those.) The photon tubes will be replaced by the biggest turbo lasers that will fit. I'll see if I can upgrade the Warp core with some SW systems and I'll add a lot of safety mechanisms and heavily armour the room it is in to minimize core breach damage in case I fail to eject it. The armour will be replaced by the strongest SW armour I can find. And I'll add the fastest hyperdrive that fits and can be powered. I’m not sure about the impulse drive, if a SW engine is faster and gives better acceleration, I’ll replace it and probably add some extra near the rear of the engineering hull. If I'm really lucky, I'll be able to get a Romulan cloak. (I doubt it) I would keep the looks and the paintjob of the original, but I would remove the painted registration number and name, this ain't fed space! As the last thing, I would add a legal SW transponder (or whatever the device used to identify yourself is called) with some modifications, such as the ability of using the ID of for example one of my victims in case I don't want to be recognized. The shuttles will get similar upgrades, but I would probably replace most of them with fighters, leaving maybe two in place (I’m afraid that a Lambda will be too high to fit through the door). With all that in place, I'll have a mean smuggling....I mean unofficial trading vessel that looks great. :D (even though most people would look really weird upon seeing the nacelles) It will be able to keep its own against fighters, freighters like the Millenium Falcon and maybe lighter capital vessels. The transporter will be great if I want to board the ship of someone who doesn't want to pay the price we agreed at during a deal (I hate the idea of being taken apart and having a clone built, but I'll send over the droids.) Off course, I could use it to steal stuff in areas without any interference :twisted: . if I get in a fight, I'll be able to respond much faster than your average trek ship because I won't have to remember what the hell evasive manoeuvre Sigma-Epsilon 23 means. The droids will be more than capable of aiming the turbo laser turrets from the tactical station at the bridge, or manually if the bridge is damaged (I'll leave the bridge and go to the auxiliary at the first hint of damage). If I get caught by the empire while carrying some goods they think shouldn’t be there, I’ll be able to respond in several ways. If I have a replicator and can replicate the contraband, I would dissolve my cargo and feed it into the replicator (don’t ask me why I wouldn’t just replicate it upon arrival at my destination). Then I would let them search the ship, while letting the droids look harmless enough. Off course I would convince them that I am a honest trader by showing them the legal goods I have bought in a legal store. If trouble comes knocking, I can either blow them sky high, or, in case I feel a bit outclassed (like when encountering a stardestroyer) I can run like hell using my warp drive while (hopefully) the droid managing the navigational console can calculate a short jump to get off their sensors.

If my luck is simply ridiculously good and I figure out how to cause those wormholes at will, I’d go to the Star Trek universe in Picard’s time and pick up whatever I was missing, and a holodeck. With the upgrades I already have in place, I should be able to do it. It is rather fun to imagine how Picard and crew would respond to it.

Data: ,,Captain, a ship just appeared out of a wormhole of unknown origin.”
Picard: ,,On screen.”
(image of my ship appears)
Picard: ,,Hmmm, looks rather familiar.”
Data: ,,That is correct, captain. The ship doesn’t seem to transmit standard identification signals, but visual analysis indicates it as a Constitution class. While in its days it was the largest and most powerful federation ship, it has been retired long ago and is far inferior to modern ships, even those that are smaller.”
Picard: ,,Open hailing frequencies.”
(my face appears, protocol droid leaves as they expect a translator and I won’t need it)
Me: ,,Hello, Baldie. What can I do for you?”
Picard: ,,Baldie?”
Me: ,,Yeah, you heard me. Now let’s get down to business. I want you to give me everything that’s on the list I’m sending. I’ll leave it up to your imagination what happens if you refuse.”
(Picard looks at the list that appears in a corner of the screen)
Picard: ,,(mutes audio and turns to Riker) Go to yellow alert. (puts audio back on and turns back to me) What you’re trying to do is an act of piracy. I cannot cooperate with you. Please stand down and prepare to be beamed to my ship.”
Me: ,,Guess you don’t have a lot of imagination. Oh, well. I’ll give you a warning.”
Data: ,,Captain, I’m detecting an unusual power build up onboard the ship. It far exceeds the capacities of a ship of its class.”
(My ship fires. People start flying and consoles explode)
Data: ,,Captain, our shields have just dropped to 0.023%”
Geordi (on the intercom): ,,Captain, The Warp core has been destabilized, If you continue to demand large amounts of power form it, we’ll have to eject it.”
Picard: ,,Uhh, Number one, send them everything they want.”

Ps: I don’t intend to insult the actor who played the role of Picard (I’ve never been good with names). It’s just that for this scenario I had to play the evil scum type.
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Gnyah! PARAGRAPHS! USE THEM! :x
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The of fitting SW tech into ST ships is that you'd rebuild the power generation and distrubution systems to power those things (E-D could produce only less then 1 TW of power).
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12.75 billion gigawatts isn't canon? (aka 12,750,000,000,000,000,000 watts, lol)
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Edward Yee wrote:12.75 billion gigawatts isn't canon? (aka 12,750,000,000,000,000,000 watts, lol)
No, it isn't. 12.75 billion gigawatts per second is canon, and that meaningless unit only proves that Data is an idiot.
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Edward Yee wrote:12.75 billion gigawatts isn't canon? (aka 12,750,000,000,000,000,000 watts, lol)
no and even if it was, that's the output of the warpcore before the engines and bad effiency take their toll, so the is no counterdiction Riker's that the ship can produce only single terawatt.
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Darth Maul -- or whoever wrote Data's line. :P

Lord Revan -- Riker said that?
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Hmmm...Although I would probably install a reactor that wouldn't blow up the spaceport and any would-be tourists waiting in line to see the contraption, I was still wondering what the music would sound like if instead of routing those 12.75 billion gigawatts to the (now removed) engines, if they went to the speakers instead... 8)

I would be a concert long remembered...it has seen the end of your eardrums, it will soon see the end of those expensive cocktail glasses :lol:
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Eh.. if you can be in the same solar system and play it it's not loud enough 8), remember the band in the Hitchhiker'sGTG? now that was loud :P
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Edward Yee wrote:Lord Revan -- Riker said that?
yeah during a TNG episode "The Dauphin" data that transmission came from a Terawatt source on a planet they were orbiting and Riker replied that is more power then the Enterprise could produce.
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RIKER: That's more power than our entire ship can generate.

DATA: It is what is needed to penetrate the atmosphere.

RIKER: Which means we lack the ability to respond...
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Lord Revan wrote:
Edward Yee wrote:Lord Revan -- Riker said that?
yeah during a TNG episode "The Dauphin" data that transmission came from a Terawatt source on a planet they were orbiting and Riker replied that is more power then the Enterprise could produce.
Mike's ST database wrote:DATA: Sir, sensors indicate the communication originated from a terawatt source on the planet.

RIKER: That's more power than our entire ship can generate.

DATA: It is what is needed to penetrate the atmosphere.

RIKER: Which means we lack the ability to respond...

But then Riker is an idiot. He has said and done many other things just as stupid. And when do we take script as fact as there has been many times in all series something is said that is questionable.
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dragon wrote:
Lord Revan wrote:
Edward Yee wrote:Lord Revan -- Riker said that?
yeah during a TNG episode "The Dauphin" data that transmission came from a Terawatt source on a planet they were orbiting and Riker replied that is more power then the Enterprise could produce.
Mike's ST database wrote:DATA: Sir, sensors indicate the communication originated from a terawatt source on the planet.

RIKER: That's more power than our entire ship can generate.

DATA: It is what is needed to penetrate the atmosphere.

RIKER: Which means we lack the ability to respond...

But then Riker is an idiot. He has said and done many other things just as stupid. And when do we take script as fact as there has been many times in all series something is said that is questionable.
is there anything to counterdict this?
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is there anything to counterdict this?
Is a terawatt even enough to run the airconditioning on a ship that size ?

Besides, the quote may refer to just the comms array. The beamed through the atmosphere in the same ep, and that's got to take more power then a simple voice message.
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Lord Revan wrote:
dragon wrote:
Lord Revan wrote:yeah during a TNG episode "The Dauphin" data that transmission came from a Terawatt source on a planet they were orbiting and Riker replied that is more power then the Enterprise could produce.

But then Riker is an idiot. He has said and done many other things just as stupid. And when do we take script as fact as there has been many times in all series something is said that is questionable.
is there anything to counterdict this?
Not intill later I think but then its been along time since I have seen TNG so don't know.
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I sure this was debated before. Any one rember what the verdict was.
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when exclude the engines a single terawatt that unrealistic (it's more then enough to run a small town, which is a quite equilevant for the GCS in term power requiverments).
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dragon wrote:But then Riker is an idiot. He has said and done many other things just as stupid.
Liiiiike...?

Lord Revan - is it just me, or does the 21st-century Nimitz-class need more power than the Galaxy-class, considering that the GCS has only a sixth of the manpower?
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Remember, Geordie backs up Riker in the TNG episode, "The Mastepiece Society" when he says that the output of the warp core is in "the terawatt range".
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Well bloddy hell, there goes the continuity of THIS Thread :evil:
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Edward Yee wrote:
dragon wrote:But then Riker is an idiot. He has said and done many other things just as stupid.
Liiiiike...?

Lord Revan - is it just me, or does the 21st-century Nimitz-class need more power than the Galaxy-class, considering that the GCS has only a sixth of the manpower?
does it need that much power once you exclude the engines?
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Bounty wrote:
is there anything to counterdict this?
Is a terawatt even enough to run the airconditioning on a ship that size?
That's the dumbest question I've heard in a long time. You honestly have no concept of what power numbers mean, do you?
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Which is why I asked the question :roll:
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Bounty wrote:Which is why I asked the question :roll:
If you are so fucking ignorant of power figures that you need to ask the question, then you have no business poking your nose in any thread discussing power levels in the first place. It's like somebody leaping into a debate about UNIX vs Windows on server farms when he doesn't even know the difference between RAM and HD.
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Can we get a thread split? Please? :cry:
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