BSG: "Home" Part 2

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2005-08-31 09:02pm

xerex wrote:
Guardsman Bass wrote:
Coalition wrote:In the book, I thought the original Cylons were organics as well. Each Cylon has a first brain, that provided basic stuff they needed to get around. Commanders got a second brain, and only the Imperious leader got a third brain.

When the Galactica and people escaped from the trap the Imperious leader made, he nearly ordered his own death. The IL canceled though, as the Cylons would need his leadership and knowledge.
They may have been referring to new, higher level machine brains. In fact, i think that makes more sense than to imagine an alien, semi-organic race replacing their "brains" when they move up in rank.
not replaced ADDED. the Leader has 3 brians, commanders 2, everyone else 1 because you know the more brains who have the smarter you are.

Um, just an FYI for you guys, those original series books are mostly complete and total BS.

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2005-08-31 09:25pm

How are they complete and total BS? They merely reflect BSG before the decision was made to make the Cylons completely mechanical.

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2005-09-01 02:22am

What ever happened to Boxy?

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2005-09-01 02:27am

The writers would have to go out of their way to shove Boxey into the plot right now, which is probably why they've avoided doing so. The actor himself might be busy with other things, too.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2005-09-01 02:47am

StarshipTitanic wrote:How are they complete and total BS? They merely reflect BSG before the decision was made to make the Cylons completely mechanical.

I mean that they're completely worthless as a source for analytical reference.

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2005-09-01 10:33am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:I mean that they're completely worthless as a source for analytical reference.

Why? They offer some clues about the episodes they novelize since many of them are based on scripts that were filmed afterwards.

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2005-09-01 10:54am

No, StarShip... they were based on scripts that had already been filmed. The novels are BSG's equivalent to EU. Even the ones that Richard Hatch wrote aren't canon.

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2005-09-01 11:15am

LadyTevar wrote:No, StarShip... they were based on scripts that had already been filmed.

Is that why the Cylons are still lizards wearing suits in the novels? Obviously the novelization of the pilot had to have been written before the script was completed and filmed.

The novels are BSG's equivalent to EU. Even the ones that Richard Hatch wrote aren't canon.

Point out the word "canon" and I'll retract it. I said clues because they can do just that.

Noble Ire · Post by **Noble Ire** » 2005-09-01 03:54pm

LadyTevar wrote:No, StarShip... they were based on scripts that had already been filmed. The novels are BSG's equivalent to EU. Even the ones that Richard Hatch wrote aren't canon.

Nitpick: Star Wars EU is canon.

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2005-09-01 04:15pm

Is this lizard cylon stuff only from the books? Or do they say during the tv show that at some point Cylons were lizards?

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2005-09-01 11:18pm

InnocentBystander wrote:Is this lizard cylon stuff only from the books? Or do they say during the tv show that at some point Cylons were lizards?

Only in the books. It was changed so the massive casualties the Cylons suffer wouldn't result in the deaths of living beings on tv.

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2005-09-04 02:12am

Listening to the podcast now - heard one of them saying "I don't think any of us knows what [Sharon's "And you ask why" line] means."

"How does she know that - I don't know."

That was at about minute 25 of the podcast.

Sam Or I · Post by **Sam Or I** » 2005-09-04 03:59pm

Just got done watching the first season on DVD (the SKY version), plus the deleted scenes.

There is an intresting scene that was cut, of the second to last episode. It talked about why man fled Kobol. A single god, got jealious of the other 12 and rebelled. Six was there and made some remark. Everything clicked for me .

Going back to the count Iblis theory. It fits very well. The cyclons singular god (The one that rebelled), is on a quest to make a superior race of followers, while destroying the devottees (man) of the other 12 lords.

So my guess is that six is that god (the one in Baltars head), manipullating man kind to her own goals. She is always on a religious rant, insisting that there is one true god, making baltar believe. She is not 100% on the cylons "side" so to speak, they are a tool so to speak. She is like that Palpatine of the Galactica universe.

Anyways just my 2 cents.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2005-09-04 04:01pm

Well, if there are 12 colonies and 12 Gods for the colonies, maybe the 13th God has something to do with the 13th tribe/Earth?

DocHorror · Post by **DocHorror** » 2005-09-04 04:02pm

Nice, though on one of his pod-casts Ron Moore stated that he doesn't consider deleted scenes as have 'happened'. There're on the DVD's as a curiosity but have no real storytelling value and can be ignored by writers, etc...

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2005-09-04 09:26pm

Whatever happened to the food situation? I don't recall them going much into detail on that. Are they still on reserve food supplies, are they growing all of their food now...?

Alex Moon · Post by **Alex Moon** » 2005-09-04 10:12pm

Uraniun235 wrote:Whatever happened to the food situation? I don't recall them going much into detail on that. Are they still on reserve food supplies, are they growing all of their food now...?

I'd imagine that they picked up supplies at Ragnar base. Cloud Nine's gardens could be modified to produce veggies and fruits, and several tens of tons of flour would provide more than enough for bread/noodles. The biggest problem will be protein, since raising animals is likely to be a difficult thing with their limited space and resources. Most of the other ships will likely begin work on hydroponics as well to provide supplies.