Culture Drone vs Yoda

The Nomad · Post by **The Nomad** » 2002-11-23 02:08pm

Which one wins ?

Location : the arena on Geonosis.

Possible intervention from the beasts, the Jedi or the droids.

Note : of course, the drone has knife-missiles ( 3 at least ), a scout-missile, a combat laser and an effector...

GSV Use Psychology · Post by **GSV Use Psychology** » 2002-11-23 02:13pm

Yoda's sooo out of his league...

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2002-11-23 02:49pm

That's one very dead Yoda...

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2002-11-23 03:23pm

Unless...
Yoda's bad use of grammar short circuits the Drone's AI.

The Nomad · Post by **The Nomad** » 2002-11-24 10:48am

Now :

100 Culture's drones ( full weaponry as already stated )

vs

the Clone Army ( with Acclamator's support ), Droid Army ( with sphere's support ), the 200 Jedi ( with Yoda, Mace, Obi, Anakin ) + Dooku and Jango.

Enjoy

The Nomad · Post by **The Nomad** » 2002-11-24 10:48am

Now :

100 Culture's drones ( full weaponry as already stated )

vs

the Clone Army ( with Acclamator's support ), Droid Army ( with sphere's support ), the 200 Jedi ( with Yoda, Mace, Obi, Anakin ) + Dooku and Jango.

Enjoy

Evil Sadistic Bastard · Post by **Evil Sadistic Bastard** » 2002-11-24 10:49am

WTF is a Culture drone? For that matter what is the Culture?

The Nomad · Post by **The Nomad** » 2002-11-24 12:56pm

The Culture is an ultratech social utopia ruled by god-like AIs, the Minds and the Hubs. It has very few planets ( a few hundreds ) but tons of space habitats ( rings, plates, orbitals... ). Its FTL drive is extremely slow ( extremely high ST warp ), but otherwise...

Just a word about their warfaring abilities :

starships react in milliseconds at least and are sentient

weapons have FTL capacities with hundreds of lys range

shields can send huge amounts of energy into hyperspace ( internal version are fitted within the bigger vessels aka General System Vehicles, 80 km long, thus preventing any weapon from being fired without authorization )

any ship over 100 m can easily vaporize a planet using grid-fire, or even without its main weaponry

effectors : ultimate hacking device, can control both AIs and bios, ly-ranged at military level

But here are the little thingies : the drones

just combine R2-D2 with T-800 and raise their capacities to the 10th power

they use effectors, assault lasers, fields ( can be used as shields and to manipulate things ), and knife-missiles ( can move so fast they become invisible, insane manoeuvrability, and they use fields as well - some special models even have their own AI and guns... ). Not to mention their ability to create ST-type holograms.

Personnaly I think that the combined SW forces could take down 10 drones, but against 100 of them the entire armies including starships would be annihilated.

A Big Flying Fish · Post by **A Big Flying Fish** » 2002-11-24 04:56pm

The Nomad wrote:Now :

100 Culture's drones ( full weaponry as already stated )

vs

the Clone Army ( with Acclamator's support ), Droid Army ( with sphere's support ), the 200 Jedi ( with Yoda, Mace, Obi, Anakin ) + Dooku and Jango.

Enjoy

are you being sadistic on purpose? that's overkill if I ever saw it. about 50 drones would be enough to do it easily.

KhyronTheBackstabber · Post by **KhyronTheBackstabber** » 2002-11-25 03:36am

What is the Culture from?

XaLEv · Post by **XaLEv** » 2002-11-25 03:45am

KhyronTheBackstabber wrote:What is the Culture from?

The Culture series by Iain M. Banks

The books:
Consider Phlebas
State of the Art
Use of Weapons
Excession
The Player of Games
Look to Windward

I have listed them in chronological order as best I can remember. Consider Phlebas takes place some 800 years before Look to Windward. There is no real order to them, though. They are all self-contained. I personally have read Excession and Player of Games, in that order. I have seen it suggested that one start with Consider Phlebas in order to ease into it, but that isn't really necessary IMO.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2002-11-25 12:05pm

Ok not to sound off-topic but what's fun about the Culture?

SylasGaunt · Post by **SylasGaunt** » 2002-11-25 12:44pm

Well for one the stories don't generally focus on the technology, that's just part of the background for the most part.

Secondly all the major civilizations in the cultureverse are at this same level of technology or at least close to it.

GSV Use Psychology · Post by **GSV Use Psychology** » 2002-11-25 12:46pm

Slartibartfast wrote:Ok not to sound off-topic but what's fun about the Culture?

Well the books are a good read. And I personally find the idea of an communistic/anarchistic space society a refreshing break from the typical space empire.

XaLEv · Post by **XaLEv** » 2002-11-26 12:01am

Slartibartfast wrote:Ok not to sound off-topic but what's fun about the Culture?

There's a whole chapter of Excession which follows this winged guy named Leffid and this four armed chick named Estray having sex.

Evil Sadistic Bastard · Post by **Evil Sadistic Bastard** » 2002-11-26 12:08am

XaLEv wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:Ok not to sound off-topic but what's fun about the Culture?
There's a whole chapter of Excession which follows this winged guy named Leffid and this four armed chick named Estray having sex.

You realize this means I have to kill someone and take his copy of Excession, right?

Enlightenment · Post by **Enlightenment** » 2002-11-26 12:18am

Somehow, I rather think the people who voted for the preachy green oven mit don't have a clue about the Culture.

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2002-11-26 12:24am

Dahak wrote:That's one very dead Yoda...

Yoda says, "A fool you think I am?"

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2002-11-27 10:16am

SylasGaunt wrote:Well for one the stories don't generally focus on the technology, that's just part of the background for the most part.

Secondly all the major civilizations in the cultureverse are at this same level of technology or at least close to it.

Ah well, that's different. I was under the impression that the Culture club traveled everywhere showing off their superior intellect and power to the unwashed masses.

Then again, what's fun about them, story-wise? I mean what do they get to do that's challenging if they can basically do everything?

The Nomad · Post by **The Nomad** » 2002-11-29 10:37am

Read Use of Weapons. A damn good book with extremely disturbing timeline, you must read it twice to fully understand it.

And basically the Culture ass-rapes ST's Prime Directive for breakfast, lunch and dinner, trying to bring babarian civilizations ( read : capitalist states or dictatures ) to a much better state of evolution using special operatives, ake the main character of Use of Weapons, Cheradenine Zakalwe. The story doesn't even focus on Zakalwe's present mission, but on its past and personnality. Which is why it is so great, IMHO the best space-opera I ever read. I'm going to buy the 5 other books, next week perhaps...

XaLEv · Post by **XaLEv** » 2002-11-29 10:38am

Evil Sadistic Bastard wrote: You realize this means I have to kill someone and take his copy of Excession, right?

It's really more of a subchapter, actually.

Marcus · Post by **Marcus** » 2002-11-30 04:47am

The point of the Culture novels is about the people (people including all sentients) not about the tech toys.

Consider Phlebas is set to a background of the largest Interstellar war in a very, very long time.

And isnt really about the war.

Excession presents the Culture with something as comfortably beyond its capabilities as the Culture is beyond the capabilities of modern-day earth.

But isnt about the Cultures (or the Excessions) capabilities, but about the impact of such a thing on the world around it.

A paralell example-
Frank Herberts 'Dune' is 'about' Prescience, and Ecology. (and Politics, and alot of other things).

But at no point does Herbert carefully define exactly how Prescience works, or turn it into an ecology textbook. The importance is not these things, but how they shape the world around them.

Ultimately, the books are about complex systems, and how complex systems respond to pressures.