Stargate: Atlantis - 2x09 - Aurora (Spoilers)

Xon · Post by **Xon** » 2005-09-20 06:08am

A few places on the 'net are claiming this is already out from an early viewing from Canada.

Any of our Canadian members managed to see this? Or anyone else?

Netko · Post by **Netko** » 2005-09-20 08:45am

Haven't seen it (yet), but a torrent exists on sites-that-shall-not-be-named, so its probably true.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2005-09-20 09:13am

It would seem that it does exist.

No more detail than this should be given out.

Zac Naloen · Post by **Zac Naloen** » 2005-09-21 06:07am

Oh man... Full length opening credits. i'd forgotten how good these were.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2005-09-21 06:57am

Obviously, when an evil reprobate forced me to watch this at gunpoint, as is their way, I made some observations before escaping,]

Ancient Handguns: Nooo! Dustbuster phasers. NOOOOO! *cries*

The Crew: Right. They're all old. Where's the ancient-youth machine? Even if the Aurora didn't have one (and we /know/ that the medical bay was still there) Atlantis would, and the crew would know where it could be had, right?

Why didn't they send Heimdall over? Not only would this be effective, but it's almost certain that they'd be more willing to trust an Asgard (even if he has got no nads) than a human. Which makes me wonder if the VR system would use that, or if he'd be a bigger Asgard of the era inside it.

Good episode, could have been better.

PS: I battered him.

Old Plympto · Post by **Old Plympto** » 2005-09-21 06:59am

Zac Naloen wrote:Oh man... Full length opening credits. i'd forgotten how good these were.

For the amount of things exploding in space and around Atlantis in the credits and bringing out the "Hell, yeah!" emotion in me, it might easily be a Star Wars live action TV series opening credits.

Zac Naloen · Post by **Zac Naloen** » 2005-09-21 07:05am

NecronLord wrote:Obviously, when an evil reprobate forced me to watch this at gunpoint, as is their way, I made some observations before escaping,]

Ancient Handguns: Nooo! Dustbuster phasers. NOOOOO! *cries*

The Crew: Right. They're all old. Where's the ancient-youth machine? Even if the Aurora didn't have one (and we /know/ that the medical bay was still there) Atlantis would, and the crew would know where it could be had, right?

Why didn't they send Heimdall over? Not only would this be effective, but it's almost certain that they'd be more willing to trust an Asgard (even if he has got no nads) than a human. Which makes me wonder if the VR system would use that, or if he'd be a bigger Asgard of the era inside it.

Good episode, could have been better.

PS: I battered him.

Okay.. About the youth device, possibility it wasn't actually invented until the ancients got back to the milky way?

think about it, last of their species on earth they'd be trying to find ways to extend their lifetime. More so than they needed too before hand.

And also i got the impression that the captain wanted to trust sheppard, but that his first officer (who at that point he'd naturally trust, and probably fuck

) was advising against it.

Zac Naloen · Post by **Zac Naloen** » 2005-09-21 07:07am

Edit, also... i anyone else think that ancient stasis is unusual?

30,000 years ago the asgard could suspend people indefinately, atleast thats the impression i got at the end of season 5.

But in the ancient stasis system you still age, albeit slowly.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2005-09-21 08:43am

I wouldn't think so, they were in a position to ascend during the war, as shown by the ascended chick being in pegasus and talking about living there when she ascended. I think their techno-development must have been at its peak then, really.

Zac Naloen · Post by **Zac Naloen** » 2005-09-21 08:49am

NecronLord wrote:I wouldn't think so, they were in a position to ascend during the war, as shown by the ascended chick being in pegasus and talking about living there when she ascended. I think their techno-development must have been at its peak then, really.

yes thats a good point, i'd forgotten about that. however the impression i'd gotten from that episode was that she'd lived amongst the people. But hadn't actually ascended. Then after she'd ascended she saw the wraith attack on the planet and her compassion forced her to save them. At which point the others took offence and punished her. after all if the ancients were able to ascend in pegasus, why bother coming home at all?

why not sink the city then ascend themselves to escape.

Prozac the Robert · Post by **Prozac the Robert** » 2005-09-21 01:01pm

So when do the canadians get to see the episodes? Was this a leak, or do they just get to see them earlier?

Zac Naloen · Post by **Zac Naloen** » 2005-09-21 01:12pm

Prozac the Robert wrote:So when do the canadians get to see the episodes? Was this a leak, or do they just get to see them earlier?

The canadian movie network is releasing them weekly, every monday.

no leak, just a different schedule without the stupid break.

Xon · Post by **Xon** » 2005-09-21 01:55pm

Personally I think the "months to get back to Atlantis" is highly likely to be the speed of the Wraith. Even the Goa'uld have show better speeds crossing the vastly large milkway.

The Wraith is clearly able to remove the knowlage that the crew got stuck into the VR and have a very large control over the internal's of the simulation.

Zac Naloen · Post by **Zac Naloen** » 2005-09-21 02:03pm

ggs wrote:Personally I think the "months to get back to Atlantis" is highly likely to be the speed of the Wraith. Even the Goa'uld have show better speeds crossing the vastly large milkway.

The Wraith is clearly able to remove the knowlage that the crew got stuck into the VR and have a very large control over the internal's of the simulation.

its stated within the episode, the ancients had two types of hyperdrive, interstellar and extra galactic.

The aurora was fitted with the shorter range interstellar hyperdrive, presumably to free up energy for other technologies, ie sensors as she was a reconnasence ship.

Nephilim · Post by **Nephilim** » 2005-09-21 04:19pm

Zac Naloen wrote:
ggs wrote:Personally I think the "months to get back to Atlantis" is highly likely to be the speed of the Wraith. Even the Goa'uld have show better speeds crossing the vastly large milkway.

The Wraith is clearly able to remove the knowlage that the crew got stuck into the VR and have a very large control over the internal's of the simulation.
its stated within the episode, the ancients had two types of hyperdrive, interstellar and extra galactic.

The aurora was fitted with the shorter range interstellar hyperdrive, presumably to free up energy for other technologies, ie sensors as she was a reconnasence ship.

Wouldn't speed be good for a reconnaissance ship? And also note that the ship was pretty darn big for just a reconnaissance ship, it dwarfed Daedalus.

Zac Naloen · Post by **Zac Naloen** » 2005-09-21 06:07pm

well she was on a reconaissance mission either way you look at it, it may not have been her intended design originally, i was just speculating.

Resources must have been tight if thats the case.

Grand Moff Yenchin · Post by **Grand Moff Yenchin** » 2005-09-23 08:54pm

Ancient handguns = Trek phasers?!

Soontir C'boath · Post by **Soontir C'boath** » 2005-09-23 09:29pm

I wished they had a close up shot of the two wraith cruisers getting blasted than a view from far away.

I found myself chuckling when Caldwell said he should send his team to familiarize themselves with Ancient tech. It was a nice touch of the main team shouldn't always go which I share myself. Heck, I wouldn't mind a totally different cast in episodes once in awhile. (Dreaming)

EmperorSolo51 · Post by **EmperorSolo51** » 2005-09-23 11:22pm

I liked the episode, But I was puzzled why the Ancients didn't back up the communique onto a "floppy" or a Removable Drive. If the information they had was that important, then logic dictates that the information should be backed up just in case of software failure by either accident or Foul Play.

Elheru Aran · Post by **Elheru Aran** » 2005-09-23 11:29pm

If it's backed up, then it can be stolen and/or destroyed.

And I enjoyed this episode. The following one was somewhat weaker though... and the bit at the end with Ronon going into those Wraith with his fucking sword...

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2005-09-23 11:46pm

He had his pistol too. Hack, slash and blast.

I get the feeling the crew of the Aurora didn't die. I doubt the Ancients would let their own die like that.

I thought the last part with the toast was a nice touch.

Soontir C'boath · Post by **Soontir C'boath** » 2005-09-23 11:47pm

Anyone else find it stupid that the decks on the Aurora are opened up by the ladders that they have there?

Grand Moff Yenchin · Post by **Grand Moff Yenchin** » 2005-09-23 11:49pm

Yeah that hack and slash of Ronan gave me more impression that he's gonna be the Wolverine of SG:A. He's gonna fall in love with Weir and be the heartbroken dude when Weir and Sheppard hook up.

Elheru Aran · Post by **Elheru Aran** » 2005-09-23 11:51pm

Soontir C'boath wrote:Anyone else find it stupid that the decks on the Aurora are opened up by the ladders that they have there?

Not really. They'd be useful enough for quick access between floors, and would be a much smaller space to close off in case of leaks and so forth; also rather faster than elevators. Though I'm sure they still have one or two of those for cargo and the like... though it being the Ancients, I'm sure they could just teleport stuff around if they need to

Soontir C'boath · Post by **Soontir C'boath** » 2005-09-24 12:04am

Elheru Aran wrote:They'd be useful enough for quick access between floors, and would be a much smaller space to close off in case of leaks and so forth; also rather faster than elevators.

Yes it would be a smaller area but I rather a sealed bulkhead with a reinforced door to get access. To me it just screams of the situation of depressurization from one deck to the other deck immediately instead of prevented it by being already sealed.