Empire vs. Borg

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2002-11-29 02:30am

This came to mind yesterday while I was outside walking my dog around the backyard, what if an armada of Borg cubes (regulars and tacticals) with several spheres went up against a fleet of ISDs, SSDs and those uber looking SSD IIs? The Borg would be taken on an ownage tour courtesy of the Empire, but eventually, the Borg would adapt to their weapons.

With the above stated, I quickly realized something, Mike Wong said Turbolasers released energy in the gigaton range, so the Borgs pretty green shields would have to collapse at some point.

Anyways, any comments to add to this random babbling?:P

FaxModem1 · Post by **FaxModem1** » 2002-11-29 02:39am

Yes, the borg are pretty much doomed. Thank you, come again

GrandMasterTerwynn · Post by **GrandMasterTerwynn** » 2002-11-29 02:40am

Aya wrote:This came to mind yesterday while I was outside walking my dog around the backyard, what if an armada of Borg cubes (regulars and tacticals) with several spheres went up against a fleet of ISDs, SSDs and those uber looking SSD IIs? The Borg would be taken on an ownage tour courtesy of the Empire, but eventually, the Borg would adapt to their weapons.

With the above stated, I quickly realized something, Mike Wong said Turbolasers released energy in the gigaton range, so the Borgs pretty green shields would have to collapse at some point.

Anyways, any comments to add to this random babbling?:P

Ahhh, welcome to the board. This is the non-poke greeting and your first warning. This topic has been done to death. The Search function is useful in this regard. If you have an interesting take on this issue, then we won't eat you. And the Borg's shields would collapse very, very quickly.

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2002-11-29 02:43am

Aya wrote:This came to mind yesterday while I was outside walking my dog around the backyard, what if an armada of Borg cubes (regulars and tacticals) with several spheres went up against a fleet of ISDs, SSDs and those uber looking SSD IIs? The Borg would be taken on an ownage tour courtesy of the Empire, but eventually, the Borg would adapt to their weapons.

With the above stated, I quickly realized something, Mike Wong said Turbolasers released energy in the gigaton range, so the Borgs pretty green shields would have to collapse at some point.

Anyways, any comments to add to this random babbling?:P

This stuff's been debated to death, unearthed, killed again, and its corpse pulled from the dirt again .... Borg lose ... badly.

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2002-11-29 02:43am

Opps, sorry, didn't know. So, um...replace the Borg with 8472?

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2002-11-29 02:46am

Aya wrote:Opps, sorry, didn't know. So, um...replace the Borg with 8472?

Has also been debated.... Degenerated into an argument about fluidic space, wormholes, living ships and the like. Depends on who is attacking who... ISD's and the GE have the edge on firepower, shielding, speed, and many others.

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2002-11-29 02:50am

Oh, um...so, how about the Mets vs the Empire?

Eh, sorry, could a mod or admin delete this thread then, please?

FaxModem1 · Post by **FaxModem1** » 2002-11-29 03:10am

A bit too late, this is now how you started, and we remember that.

But hey, your not to blame for that, just be careful what topics you start here, you will find that people are a bit finicky about what you post.

I know.

LordShaithis · Post by **LordShaithis** » 2002-11-29 05:13am

Lay off the newb. The bottom line is that we've already debated EVERYTHING to death, and if newbies didn't come along to restart these discussions, we'd have nothing related to SW/ST to talk about.

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-11-29 05:21am

Point is, everyone's SICK of debating them over and over again...

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2002-11-29 07:01am

Point is, everyone's SICK of debating them over and over again...

There are also persons like Darkling who actually bring up new things.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2002-11-29 11:55am

You call the "Feds can somehow kill the Vong who occupied most of the GFFA in 18 months" shit he churns up new?

Well...I guess that's one way of looking at it.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-11-29 11:58am

It has long been the position of most debaters that the Borg's adaptation is more properly termed "optimization." The Borg cannot increase the power of their shields without considerable modification to their ships, but they can and do optimize their shields and weapons to deflect and attack their enemies more effectively and efficiently, using the same amount of energy. Thus, while their shields would doubtless grow MORE effective against the Empire's weapons, they would almost certainly never be powerful enough to stop Imperial capital-ship weapons consistently.

XaLEv · Post by **XaLEv** » 2002-11-29 12:20pm

WTF is an SSD II? You talking about the Sovereign or Eclipse?

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2002-11-29 12:30pm

Maybe he's talking about that 260 Km monstrocity that some fansite made

?

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2002-11-29 03:24pm

One ISD MkII can take 9 waves of 1000 borg cubes in 2.67 minutes before it's shields go down.

GAME OVER

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2002-11-29 06:18pm

I meant the Eclipse, I forgot it's name until I looked it up again.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-11-29 07:00pm

PS: Never forget Eclipse its the Ship everyone wants for his/her Birthday, its got EVERYTHING! And I do mean EVERYTHING!

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2002-11-29 07:34pm

Damn straight, it can carry a ISD.

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2002-11-29 09:39pm

Aya wrote:Damn straight, it can carry a ISD.

Ahhh, a hangar full of ISD's in the ISD racks...

Galaxy · Post by **Galaxy** » 2002-11-30 01:30am

Call the Eclipses "Fleet carriers".

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-11-30 12:47pm

Galaxy wrote:Call the Eclipses "Fleet carriers".

It's called a fleet carrier because it can carry a very small portion of a single squadron of capital ships?

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2002-11-30 12:53pm

Galaxy wrote:Call the Eclipses "Fleet carriers".

No, the Eclips are dedicated command ships/battlecruisers. There are fleet carriers, they don't have much for armorment but pack alot of fighters into their frame.

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2002-11-30 12:56pm

I think it was a joke. A Fleet Carrier is the name of a big carrier. But the Eclipse is litterally carring a fleet.

beyond hope · Post by **beyond hope** » 2002-12-01 02:42am

The only way I can see the Borg managing to survive any longer than that 2.67 minutes is if they had Voyager with them: I can already picture the entire Imperial fleet opening fire on Janeway at once

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