DEATH wrote:Darth Wong wrote:Oh wow, so we get to have exactly the same game that ID Software has been peddling for the last 10 years, but with another graphic engine update! Yahoo! Quick, tell everyone you know!
Actually the engine isn't new, it's just an optimized version of the D# engine with outdoor scenes.
Y'know, I could have sworn Mike said the same thing you did. Might want to read a little more carefully.
But yeah, I'm finding it very hard to get all worked up about this. Will it be pretty? Sure. Just like Doom3 was pretty and Unreal 2 was pretty. Will it have any sort of innovative gameplay, intriguing storyline, or some other little hook that will make it much more worthwhile?
Probably not. Id and Epic have made a business of making nice new graphics engines for companies to buy when they don't want to waste the time coding their own. I don't have hard numbers for it, but I'd be willing to bet both companies get more money from selling/renting their engines than they do from the games they actually build from them.
That said, of the two, I have much more respect for Epic, despite the lackluster UT2003. They seem to be doing more things with what they do and put the engines to better use. Additionally, they are much better to their community, releasing quite a hefty amount of content totally free to the players, much like Cavedog of old. Id, meanwhile, has released the source code to Quake 1. A noble gesture, but seriously, I think I've seen one game made with it.
If I had to choose between Quake 4 and whatever Unreal-based game is on the pipe for the next year or so, I'd pick Unreal. More bang for my buck, and probably more fun. I'm much more interested in games I will enjoy playing, rather than ZOMG teh next FPS is out.
The market of FPS games is well and truly flooded. You might as well hold out for the good ones, games that take the genre and make it something special. Max Payne comes to mind, F.E.A.R. looks like it will be in that category. Deus Ex, Thief, System Shock, Half-Life, Far Cry, Splinter Cell, Rainbow Six, Jedi Knight, all of these games did more than just have shiny graphics.
If you absolutely MUST HAVE a game running this new engine, wait six months to a year. I bet someone will take the engine and do something honestly cool with it by then.