Jango Fett vs. Rommie

Renewed_Valour1 · Post by **Renewed_Valour1** » 2002-11-30 01:44am

1) Jango vs. Rommie: Both are in your average city with each trying to hunt down the other.

2) Jango & 10 Clonetroopers helping him vs. Hunt and crew again in a cityscape and then in a forest.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-11-30 08:42am

Armed? Unarmed? What exactly are the contestants packing?

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2002-11-30 09:01am

Depends on who spots each other first. What kind of sensors does Rommie have? Otherwise Jango can blast her from the air.

Renewed_Valour1 · Post by **Renewed_Valour1** » 2002-11-30 11:48am

Mr Bean wrote:Armed? Unarmed? What exactly are the contestants packing?

They are armed with Jango/Clonetroopers have their standard weapons and Rommie/crew with the two variants of the f-lance.

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:What kind of sensors does Rommie have? Otherwise Jango can blast her from the air.

We know Rommie herself has infrared along with other unknown sensors. I don't think attacking from the air would exactly be the brightest idea considering the f-lances…

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-11-30 12:13pm

Ok both Armed, Jango has the Weapons Advantage on Rommie, Flamethrower, Smart Rope, The Bat-man esk arm daggers, Dual Blaster Pistols and the Build in Rocket-Launcher, although the last is kinda useless aginst Rommie thanks to the F-Lance...

Mobility Jango has on his side and the F-lance is of questionable usefulness aginst Jango's Armor though it should be noted his backside is not very well protected

Basic play out might simply be Jango quickdraw Jango Wins or Jango fly away, shoot Rommie who could probably nail the jetpack

However it should be noted that this one is pretty balanced and mostly depends on the terrian and luck

TWO However things are much worse aginst AD Crew, The Clonetroops have 360 Vison(Execpt up of-course) and a rifle that designed to punch through armor STRONGER than Modern Day APC's

So any shot from a Clonetrooper Rifle will be fatel

Sernaio one goes either way but Senario two is likey to go the SW Forces way

Renewed_Valour1 · Post by **Renewed_Valour1** » 2002-11-30 02:27pm

Mr Bean wrote: the Build in Rocket-Launcher, although the last is kinda useless against Rommie thanks to the F-Lance...

Could be downright suicidal to use that rocket launcher if the f-lance is in the right spot to fire effectors to get an early intercept. I need a memory refresher the arm daggers are thrown weapons or melee blades?

Mr Bean wrote: Mobility Jango has on his side

That one heavily depends on the environment. Rommie wears an AG harness that greatly increases her mobility and allow for her Matrixesque fighting style. I would have to rewatch the scene from "All Too Human" for an exact height; however she effortlessly makes something like a 15 to 20 meter jump straight up. In any enclosed or even more contained environment the harness plus Rommie's quicker reflexes and strength is going to be more of an advantage.

Mr Bean wrote: The F-lance is of questionable usefulness aginst Jango's Armor though it should be noted his backside is not very well protected

Even if an effector fails to penetrate the hit is going to take him right off his feet. The plasma bolts should however be effective considering like Clonetrooper rifles they were designed to penetrate light armor at the very least.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-11-30 02:35pm

Renewed_Valour1 wrote:
Mr Bean wrote: The F-lance is of questionable usefulness aginst Jango's Armor though it should be noted his backside is not very well protected
Even if an effector fails to penetrate the hit is going to take him right off his feet. The plasma bolts should however be effective considering like Clonetrooper rifles they were designed to penetrate light armor at the very least.

But how effective is Andromeda-verse armor when compared Wars armor? Some specifc examples of it's strength would be appreciated.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-11-30 03:12pm

I need a memory refresher the arm daggers are thrown weapons or melee blades?

Remeber when he's sliding down the side of the Water Slickened Dome thing? There the things that pop out of the sides of his gautlets and dig into the Metal(Think the Bone projectiles that Tyr has except these are Vibroblades meaning they cut through human limbs easily and it seems these are designed to parry weapons and probably would be VERY useful aginst the extended Staff Version of the F-Lance and would probably slice right through it)

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-11-30 03:29pm

I'd go with Jango.

IIRC Rommie can only operate so long away from the AA?

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2002-11-30 05:00pm

Rommie gets ass-raped (literally)

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-11-30 05:05pm

Cpt_Frank wrote:Rommie gets ass-raped (literally)

Nah, I don't think Jango is much into the ladies (or men for that matter). After all, the only other person in his life is his clone.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2002-11-30 05:08pm

Nah, I don't think Jango is much into the ladies (or men for that matter). After all, the only other person in his life is his clone.

Hmm....
I guess an ISD would be a better match for rommie

Renewed_Valour1 · Post by **Renewed_Valour1** » 2002-11-30 07:10pm

Mr Bean wrote: There the things that pop out of the sides of his gautlets and dig into the Metal(Think the Bone projectiles that Tyr has except these are Vibroblades meaning they cut through human limbs easily and it seems these are designed to parry weapons and probably would be VERY useful aginst the extended Staff Version of the F-Lance and would probably slice right through it)

Myself I'm rather doubtful about their ability to slice through an f-lance though. An F-Lance seems to be made of an extremely strong material. We've only seen them damaged twice. One time was a by an m-lash that could slice through materials as well or better than a lightsaber. The second was while parrying a giant man sized smart shurikan. Hunt managed to deflect away the shurikan multiple times before it destroyed the lance. That thing would have taken off a human limb with ease or more likely hacked through a torso.

NecronLord wrote:IIRC Rommie can only operate so long away from the AA?

Since her short power limitation in "A Rose in the Ashes" someone apparently gave her better batteries. She was operating on the station in "All too Human" for sometime alone and in several other episodes. It may just be the weapon they used to incapacitate her with in that episode might have damaged her batteries.

Stormbringer wrote:But how effective is Andromeda-verse armor when compared Wars armor? Some specifc examples of it's strength would be appreciated.

Are you talking about personal armor or armored vehicles? Lancer armor is made out of fullerenes and capable according to the tech advisor of stopping most everything but a direct hit from a f-lance. Though the wearer would be knocked off their feet and probably have a nice bruise. The armor piercing plasma bolt though is meant for use against armored vehicles; though it can be used against personnel as a effective weapon of intimidation. Hunt fired several plasma bolts over the heads of some slavers in "Devil Takes Hindmost" for that reason.

Moonshadow · Post by **Moonshadow** » 2002-12-02 02:28am

one thing about Rommie is we've see her take pretty heavy hits and still survive. Getting one shot off on her doesn't seem to even slow her down. I'd say this one is up in the air.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-12-02 08:53am

However she is designed like a human, thefor headshots WONT exactly be good for her

Renewed_Valour1 · Post by **Renewed_Valour1** » 2002-12-02 11:11pm

Mr Bean wrote:However she is designed like a human, thefor headshots WONT exactly be good for her

The same shot on Fett by a f-lance wouldn't do him any good either.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-12-03 07:00am

The same shot on Fett by a f-lance wouldn't do him any good either.

He however is armored aginst that...

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-12-03 08:06am

Moonshadow wrote:one thing about Rommie is we've see her take pretty heavy hits and still survive. Getting one shot off on her doesn't seem to even slow her down. I'd say this one is up in the air.

However a blaster is much more dangerous because it'll cause alot more collateral damage, I'd wager a blaster packs alot more firepower than than gauss guns too.

Renewed_Valour1 · Post by **Renewed_Valour1** » 2002-12-04 09:37am

Mr Bean wrote:He however is armored aginst that...

Armored or not it isn't the same as getting hit in the torso where he has heavier armor to stop a round.

m112880 · Post by **m112880** » 2002-12-04 09:47am

Jango Felt can have pretty good armor but the force lance does not have to penatrate it. A bullet proof vest will stop a bullet but its still going to hurt and cause damage just from the force of the bullet hitting. So getting shot with a force lance might not kill him it will harm him and allow Rommie to get in close and finish him off.
And Rommie can take a lot a punishment. In one show we saw her get run though with a steel tube and then get up and kill her attacker.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2002-12-04 10:46am

Jango Felt can have pretty good armor but the force lance does not have to penatrate it. A bullet proof vest will stop a bullet but its still going to hurt and cause damage just from the force of the bullet hitting. So getting shot with a force lance might not kill him it will harm him and allow Rommie to get in close and finish him off.
And Rommie can take a lot a punishment. In one show we saw her get run though with a steel tube and then get up and kill her attacker

You did see the Jango/Obi fight didn't you?
Notice how he moves, Rommie will have a hard time to hit him.
Also notice that Jango, after he crash-landed with his jetpack, just stood up again and kept on fighting.

Renewed_Valour1 · Post by **Renewed_Valour1** » 2002-12-04 03:10pm

Cpt_Frank wrote:You did see the Jango/Obi fight didn't you?
Notice how he moves, Rommie will have a hard time to hit him.

First an f-lance operating alone has the accuracy to knock down mortars beyond visual range. Second Rommie had reflexes that make even a genetically engineered Nietzschean like Tyr admits he is sub par compared to her.

Cpt_Frank wrote:Also notice that Jango, after he crash-landed with his jetpack, just stood up again and kept on fighting.

F-lances have taken people off their feet before and propelled them backwards with the force of hit. In "StarCrossed" the hit had sufficient force to throw Gabriel backwards into a console on the Maru with sufficient for to damage it.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2002-12-04 03:18pm

F-lances have taken people off their feet before and propelled them backwards with the force of hit. In "StarCrossed" the hit had sufficient force to throw Gabriel backwards into a console on the Maru with sufficient for to damage it.

Actually I have seen the episode. Didn't look as bad as Jango's landing, though the armor absorbing a bullet may knock him down.
But probably he'll stand up afterwards, he's a though one (remeber in AOTC in the arena when that beast ran over him?).
while Rommie may be tougher (she's not human after all) Jango's superior firepower should give him victory here. Rommie's armor won't help her much against a blaster.

Renewed_Valour1 · Post by **Renewed_Valour1** » 2002-12-04 04:30pm

Cpt_Frank wrote:Actually I have seen the episode. Didn't look as bad as Jango's landing, though the armor absorbing a bullet may knock him down.

Getting hit by a bullet and falling are two very different things. The impact of his fall was absorbed over a much wider area of his body than an effector strike would be. Especially considering we were taking about head shots.

Cpt_Frank wrote:Jango's superior firepower should give him victory here. Rommie's armor won't help her much against a blaster.

Superior firepower from the blaster would be questionable because we have no idea what the upwards power of the f-lance's plasma bolts is.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-12-04 04:52pm

His Divine Shadow wrote:
Moonshadow wrote:one thing about Rommie is we've see her take pretty heavy hits and still survive. Getting one shot off on her doesn't seem to even slow her down. I'd say this one is up in the air.
However a blaster is much more dangerous because it'll cause alot more collateral damage, I'd wager a blaster packs alot more firepower than than gauss guns too.

logic would suggest this as a blaster is not purely kenetic, a gauss gun is (well in this context, necron 'gauss' guns are completely different (when I find the 'genius' who came up wit that name!) If you can survive firing a gauss gun, with sufficient protection it need not be lethal.