A squad of Data’s vs. a squad of Storm Troopers with a twist

guyver · Post by **guyver** » 2002-11-28 06:27pm

Q was bored one day and decided that he needed to have some fun. So he grabbed one (1) squad of Data’s from Stravo’s Star crossed Fanfic and one (1) squad of Storm Troopers and place them in Raccoon City during the Resident Evil time line. The teams must make it out of the city in 3 days on the magic train before the whole city goes boom. Plus they need to rescue any survivors from the city.

Both teams have enough supplies to last them for 3 days of heavy combat.

Who wins?

I say the Data’s win for two reasons.

1)
The Data’s do not need sleep. They can keep going and going and will not need to rest.

2)
The Data’s would be immune to the zombie’s bites, and be able to protect the survivors. Granted Storm Trooper armor would work just as well. I just think they would do a better job.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2002-11-28 07:20pm

If they both have equal weapons and equipment, then Datas win--any day.

guyver · Post by **guyver** » 2002-11-28 07:25pm

Shinova wrote:If they both have equal weapons and equipment, then Datas win--any day.

No both sides have standard equipment that they would of carried into battle.

Data's=Star Trek stuff

ST= Star Wars stuff

Dralan · Post by **Dralan** » 2002-11-28 07:40pm

No both sides have standard equipment that they would of carried into battle.

Hmm.. I belive that the data squad would win. I doubt that the stormtrooper squadrons equipment could defeat the tricorder technobabble that the data squad would use to locate and rescue the survivors..

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2002-11-28 07:42pm

Gotta go with the stormies here, Phasers would have to be set on kill at the very least to take out zombies, and have little knock back. Blasters on the other hand would be good to knock zombies on their ass and run right by, or possibly do enough damage to take them out without a head shot. Stormies have pills that allow them to stay awake for 5 days straight without sleep with no negative side-effects, so sleeping is not a problem. Stormies are also better equiped and trained for close range combat(in OT that mainly where they fight). Also, Stormies would probly be a lot better defended from stronger BOWs than data, sure the blows would knock them on their ass, but not shish-ka-bob them.

Raxmei · Post by **Raxmei** » 2002-11-28 07:46pm

anarchistbunny wrote:Gotta go with the stormies here, Phasers would have to be set on kill at the very least to take out zombies, and have little knock back.

Little knock back? Haven't you seen all of those scenes where hand phasers sent their targets flying?

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-11-28 09:19pm

Raxmei wrote:
anarchistbunny wrote:Gotta go with the stormies here, Phasers would have to be set on kill at the very least to take out zombies, and have little knock back.
Little knock back? Haven't you seen all of those scenes where hand phasers sent their targets flying?

No. Could you give us some specific examples, please? And I'm not talking about people jerking backward on their own muscle power, which is usually quite obvious from looking at the scene.

PS. as for the matchup, I don't know anything about Resident Evil so I guess I can't comment. If it's just a straight-up fight between Datas and stormies, the stormies win. Their superior firepower would carry the day.

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2002-11-28 09:30pm

Darth Wong wrote:
Raxmei wrote:
anarchistbunny wrote:Gotta go with the stormies here, Phasers would have to be set on kill at the very least to take out zombies, and have little knock back.
Little knock back? Haven't you seen all of those scenes where hand phasers sent their targets flying?
No. Could you give us some specific examples, please? And I'm not talking about people jerking backward on their own muscle power, which is usually quite obvious from looking at the scene.

PS. as for the matchup, I don't know anything about Resident Evil so I guess I can't comment. If it's just a straight-up fight between Datas and stormies, the stormies win. Their superior firepower would carry the day.

Star Trek III, Kirk shoots the Klingon with a phaser which picks the Klingon off his feet and sends him flying. However, that is the only example I can think of at the moment. There are many more examples of phasers not doing that.

As for the topic, I think the Datas would be better simply because one of them could over power a group of zombies even without a phaser.

BTW just because a phaser would need to be set to kill to take care of a zombie does not mean it needs to be set to max power (vaporize). Just as as a blaster would need to be set to kill and not stun to take care of a zombie.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-11-28 09:37pm

Kamakazie Sith wrote:Star Trek III, Kirk shoots the Klingon with a phaser which picks the Klingon off his feet and sends him flying.

Most easily attributed to some kind of bizarre physics on the Genesis planet, since the Klingon did not follow a normal trajectory. Watch that scene and try to tell me that he was moving in a manner consistent with a high-momentum impact. We're talking about a planet which blew itself up; obviously not a normal situation.

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2002-11-28 09:44pm

Darth Wong wrote:
Kamakazie Sith wrote:Star Trek III, Kirk shoots the Klingon with a phaser which picks the Klingon off his feet and sends him flying.
Most easily attributed to some kind of bizarre physics on the Genesis planet, since the Klingon did not follow a normal trajectory. Watch that scene and try to tell me that he was moving in a manner consistent with a high-momentum impact. We're talking about a planet which blew itself up; obviously not a normal situation.

I'm with you.....like I said that is the only example I can think of where a phaser has demonstrated significant KE. Even in Star Trek XI those Klingons that were hit by phasers in a zero G enviroment didn't go flying like the Klingon in Star Trek III.

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2002-11-29 02:00am

guyver wrote:
Shinova wrote:If they both have equal weapons and equipment, then Datas win--any day.
No both sides have standard equipment that they would of carried into battle.

Data's=Star Trek stuff

ST= Star Wars stuff

Hmmm, if equally armed and equipped, the Data-types win the battle, but since the Stormtroopers retain their weapons and equipment, and the Data-types gets their handy-dandy phasers,, methinks the Stormtroopers bring Data-heads to the Emperor.

Galaxy · Post by **Galaxy** » 2002-11-29 07:32pm

Datas would win easy.
Data survived being shot several times in ST:FC and he wasn't hurt. So i think the Datas would be alot more durable, as well as stronger, faster, and more accurate shooters.

Blasters don't look like very high KE weapons. Whenever you see troopers get hit they mostly just fall down. I think the phasers have the advantage in this fight. I don't think trooper armor can hold up against a weapon that can disrupt several tons of rock.

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2002-11-29 07:41pm

jegs2 wrote:
guyver wrote:
Shinova wrote:If they both have equal weapons and equipment, then Datas win--any day.
No both sides have standard equipment that they would of carried into battle.

Data's=Star Trek stuff

ST= Star Wars stuff
Hmmm, if equally armed and equipped, the Data-types win the battle, but since the Stormtroopers retain their weapons and equipment, and the Data-types gets their handy-dandy phasers,, methinks the Stormtroopers bring Data-heads to the Emperor.

It's not Datas vs. Stormtroopers......read the original post again.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2002-11-29 07:47pm

I feel honored that an aspect of my story is part of this thread. I have to say that the Datas win this one. The Datas are stronger, faster, tougher and they are not human. The Stormies are essentially human and prone to the human weaknesses that the Datas are not.

Phasers are also are a more flexible weapon than blasters thus allowing the Datas to do technobabble things to the weapons or jury rig god knows what to help them complete their mission.

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2002-11-30 01:02am

Much as I like stormies, I have to say the Datas win. They have phasers, right? Those things work wonders on flesh. Plus, they only have to worry about boss-type monsters.

Evil Sadistic Bastard · Post by **Evil Sadistic Bastard** » 2002-11-30 03:41am

Technically the Datas could beat the zombies to death. We've all seen his strength in ST:FC, and if something like the Tyrant comes out we could have four Datas pin him down and the fifth stave his skull in.

The stormies could just blast off zombie heads, and their armore would help. Against boss monsters just focus fire on his head and legs until boss monster dies a horrible death.

I'm with the stormies. Blasters beat HtH any day.

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2002-11-30 08:26am

hmmm...if the stormies could somehow rig an EM pulse, they could use that against the Datas. But, realistically, the stormies could win if they could station some troopers in varius buildings through the city, which would allow them great survellience and the ability to take shots and possibly weaken both zombies and Datas before they reached the main body of the stormy forces.

Evil Sadistic Bastard · Post by **Evil Sadistic Bastard** » 2002-11-30 10:23am

Aya wrote:hmmm...if the stormies could somehow rig an EM pulse, they could use that against the Datas. But, realistically, the stormies could win if they could station some troopers in varius buildings through the city, which would allow them great survellience and the ability to take shots and possibly weaken both zombies and Datas before they reached the main body of the stormy forces.

It's not a vs, it's who can rescue more survivors and escape.

Right?

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2002-11-30 01:49pm

Evil Sadistic Bastard wrote:
Aya wrote:hmmm...if the stormies could somehow rig an EM pulse, they could use that against the Datas. But, realistically, the stormies could win if they could station some troopers in varius buildings through the city, which would allow them great survellience and the ability to take shots and possibly weaken both zombies and Datas before they reached the main body of the stormy forces.
It's not a vs, it's who can rescue more survivors and escape.

Right?

That's what I got from the original post.

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2002-11-30 01:50pm

Evil Sadistic Bastard wrote:Technically the Datas could beat the zombies to death. We've all seen his strength in ST:FC, and if something like the Tyrant comes out we could have four Datas pin him down and the fifth stave his skull in.

The stormies could just blast off zombie heads, and their armore would help. Against boss monsters just focus fire on his head and legs until boss monster dies a horrible death.

I'm with the stormies. Blasters beat HtH any day.

The Datas still have phasers, we all know phasers are very effective against organic lifeforms.

guyver · Post by **guyver** » 2002-11-30 05:46pm

Kamakazie Sith wrote:
Evil Sadistic Bastard wrote:
Aya wrote:hmmm...if the stormies could somehow rig an EM pulse, they could use that against the Datas. But, realistically, the stormies could win if they could station some troopers in varius buildings through the city, which would allow them great survellience and the ability to take shots and possibly weaken both zombies and Datas before they reached the main body of the stormy forces.
It's not a vs, it's who can rescue more survivors and escape.

Right?
That's what I got from the original post.

That is right.

The object is to save as many people as they can. Plus get out in 3 days before city goes boom. If the Storm Troopers and the Data's just fight each other no one will win.

So remember it comes down to, who can last longer, and protect the people they try to save.