A truely sobering look at a Christian...

[K. A. Pital]

I wonder if anyone here has this cinematrocity, to post a few high-quality caps? I really want a high-quality rendering of God WMD and that fundie fellow in robes, Stone Alexander when he uses lightning and the WU-Russian attack shining moments, would make good sig pics.

[Setesh]

I have it, but my capture software is pretty bad. the omega code 2 pack runs about $12 though

[FaxModem1]

Its a sad sad movie, but it has cool special effects, like God destroying the Sphinx with an earthquake, or the Roman Coliseum with a meteor, or the grand battle at the end, other than that, its just sad.

[Darth Wong]

Its a sad sad movie, but it has cool special effects, like God destroying the Sphinx with an earthquake, or the Roman Coliseum with a meteor, or the grand battle at the end, other than that, its just sad.

How well has it done financially? This would be a good indicator of the rabid extremist fanatic retard quotient in the US.

[FaxModem1]

According to imdb.com, its gross was $5,974653 and its budget was 22 million. So, it didn't profit, but they don't have DVD sales, one thing that probably hurt it was the release around 9/11

[K. A. Pital]

Darth Wong
It didn't profit itself, but it's predecessor Omega Code 1 (even worse quality of moviemaking) made a few mio, IIRC. That was a huge surprise for everybody - including even the fundies themselves.

[EmperorSolo51]

I don't know why Fundamentalists get thier panties all in a twist over just when the second coming of Christ will happen. From my Point of View, If and When it happens, We will be judged accordingly to how we have lived our lives, however the End comes, regardless. Fretting over when Christ will appear is just a big waste of time and missing the bigger picture at the same time.

[Setesh]

I don't know why Fundamentalists get thier panties all in a twist over just when the second coming of Christ will happen. From my Point of View, If and When it happens, We will be judged accordingly to how we have lived our lives, however the End comes, regardless. Fretting over when Christ will appear is just a big waste of time and missing the bigger picture at the same time.

See that's the problem, they've come full circle from offering the religeon and therefore salvation, to demanding that you must follow not only God/Jesus, but that you must do it their paticular way. So they have returned to the mindset that made the dark ages. There is only one way and everything must be suborned to it, especially the truth.

[EmperorSolo51]

See that's the problem, they've come full circle from offering the religeon and therefore salvation, to demanding that you must follow not only God/Jesus, but that you must do it their paticular way. So they have returned to the mindset that made the dark ages. There is only one way and everything must be suborned to it, especially the truth.

See, This is why I became a Catholic. With Catholicism, There is no heavy emphasis on the End, other than the idea that we must mentally be aware that it it may happen, but we should not worry when it does happen. There is no Pat Robertson or Billy Graham who makes dire predictions of DOOM At hand and saying that they are the only one swho who knw when the end is near. That's the way how Christianity, in my opinion, should be.

[EmperorSolo51]

Ghetto Edit:

See, This is why I became a Catholic. With Catholicism, There is no heavy emphasis on the End, other than the idea that we must mentally be aware that it it may happen, but we should not worry when it does happen. There is no Pat Robertson or Billy Graham who makes dire predictions of DOOM At hand and saying that they are the only ones who who know when the end is near. That's the way how Christianity, in my opinion, should be.

[Setesh]

It is truly scary that the RCC is becoming the least obnoxious of the major christian sects.

[Drooling Iguana]

It is truly scary that the RCC is becoming the least obnoxious of the major christian sects.

Son't worry. Ratzy's working hard to change that.

[The Guid]

I might point to the Anglican Church though to be fair. The wings of it that are liberal make the Catholic Church look like the Inquisiton.

[EmperorSolo51]

Son't worry. Ratzy's working hard to change that.

Say what you will. Even though you can't back that up with any evidence whatsover. Pope Benedict XVI hasn't spoken Ex Cathedra on any issue involving official Church Doctrine. Nor were there any specific changes made to the Church's Catchecism or Canon law during the Synod of bishops that was held in Rome Two weeks ago.

[EmperorSolo51]

This is what the Boston Herald has to say.

VATICAN CITY - While acknowledging the acute shortage of priests in the Roman Catholic Church, bishops from around the world reaffirmed the church's stance on celibacy for priests Saturday in a set of 50 recommendations they agreed to submit to Pope Benedict XVI.

The proposals, meant for the pope to consider in a future document on the Eucharist, also dealt with whether Communion should be denied to Catholic politicians who support laws that contradict church teaching, such as the right to abortion, as well as the plight of Catholics who divorce and remarry without getting an annulment.

The estimated 250 bishops who gathered for the three-week Synod of Bishops voted behind closed doors on the recommendations, which disappointed some church reform groups by hewing closely to church teaching. The synod, which began Oct. 2, formally ends Sunday with a Mass celebrated by Benedict.

Cardinal George Pell of Australia said at a press conference after the vote that the proposals were a "massive restatement" of the church's celibacy rule for priests and other church traditions.

He also defended the meeting amid questions about why it was necessary to bring prelates from around the world to Rome to essentially approve the status quo.

"If you restate what are the central doctrinal positions of the church, with a massive unanimity on the nature of the Eucharist, that's something," he said. "And if you reaffirm a particular discipline, or two or three disciplines, that's also something."

Debate about the priest shortage dominated the synod, with bishops complaining that Catholics sometimes have to go weeks or months without having a priest to celebrate Mass because there are too few to go around.

Some liberal Catholics and church reform groups say more men would join the priesthood if they were allowed to marry, and several bishops at the synod raised the issue of whether so-called "viri probati" or married men of proven virtue could be ordained.

But the final recommendation reaffirmed the "inestimable gift of ecclesiastical celibacy" and said the idea of ordaining "viri probati" was a "path not to follow," according to the list of the propositions released by the Vatican.

The proposition also called for Catholics to pray for new priests, for pastors to encourage young people to go into the priesthood, and for bishops to be more willing to share their priests with dioceses in need if they have a surplus.

Several reform groups praised the openness of the discussion on the problem but said they were disappointed with the outcome.

"They opened the issue, talked solutions, then ran as fast as they could in the other directions," said Sister Christine Schenk, of the reform groups FutureChurch and Call to Action.

We Are Church, another reform group, said in a statement it regretted the bishops' "lack of courage" to make any concrete changes.

Among their other recommendations, the bishops said Catholic politicians should realize their "grave social responsibility" and not support laws that contrast with church teaching.

But no blanket recommendation was made on whether the politicians should be denied Communion, with a final proposal saying local bishops "should exercise the virtues of firmness and prudence taking into account concrete local situations."

The issue gained attention during the 2004 presidential campaign when St. Louis Archbishop Raymond Burke said he would deny the Eucharist to Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry, a Catholic who supports abortion rights. Other church leaders said they were not comfortable denying Communion and the U.S. bishops' conference is studying the issue.

Another major issue of the synod was how to deal with Catholics who divorce and remarry without getting an annulment. Church teaching says such Catholics cannot receive Communion because their situation "objectively contrasts with God's law."

The bishops reaffirmed church policy but called for these people to make "every possible effort" to have their previous marriages annulled. If the marriages cannot be declared invalid, the couple should celebrate their new marriage as a "loyal and trustworthy friendship" - meaning they shouldn't consummate it.

Other propositions reaffirmed the liturgical reforms of the Second Vatican Council, called for priests to prepare better homilies and suggested some changes to particular Mass rituals, such as the placement of the "sign of peace" during Mass.

[General Zod]

See that's the problem, they've come full circle from offering the religeon and therefore salvation, to demanding that you must follow not only God/Jesus, but that you must do it their paticular way. So they have returned to the mindset that made the dark ages. There is only one way and everything must be suborned to it, especially the truth.

See, This is why I became a Catholic. With Catholicism, There is no heavy emphasis on the End, other than the idea that we must mentally be aware that it it may happen, but we should not worry when it does happen. There is no Pat Robertson or Billy Graham who makes dire predictions of DOOM At hand and saying that they are the only one swho who knw when the end is near. That's the way how Christianity, in my opinion, should be.

Except for their hangovers about sex, refusal to use birth control, emphasis on abstinence only education and hypocrisy regarding hiding pedophiles anyway.

[Metatwaddle]

I might point to the Anglican Church though to be fair. The wings of it that are liberal make the Catholic Church look like the Inquisiton.

Agreed. I went to an Episcopal church (the American equivalent of Anglican) for a while even after I became an atheist (because I had agreed to accompany the kids' choir on the piano and I didn't want to leave them accompanist-less) and I've gotta say that as Christian churches go, it's wonderful. They don't try to emphasize how sinful we all are and how wonderful God is for giving us a chance for redemption, they don't try to rationalize the flood as an act of love. They just... well, they mainly focus on how to live morally.

[EmperorSolo51]

I might point to the Anglican Church though to be fair. The wings of it that are liberal make the Catholic Church look like the Inquisiton.

Agreed. I went to an Episcopal church (the American equivalent of Anglican) for a while even after I became an atheist (because I had agreed to accompany the kids' choir on the piano and I didn't want to leave them accompanist-less) and I've gotta say that as Christian churches go, it's wonderful. They don't try to emphasize how sinful we all are and how wonderful God is for giving us a chance for redemption, they don't try to rationalize the flood as an act of love. They just... well, they mainly focus on how to live morally.

My catholic Mass that I attend to is essentially the same. Though there is emphasis on sin. Though, it's stressed as we are all human and we all make mistakes. That's part of dealing with Human Free will. Unlike more Fundamentalist Churches, the Church doesn't dwell on this subject. We just accept sin and just move on. What we do emphasis that is if we do wrong, we must be contrite in our strive to make up for what we have done wrong through prayer and good works.

[The Guid]

I was talking mainly about liberal attitudes to women & homosexuals for example. This is something the Catholic Church beats the Fundies on but not the Anglican Church.

If you consider this to be a good idea of course.

[Kettch]

Back to the movie:

From imdb:

Joseph Makkar .... Arab Leader
Guy Siner .... British Leader
Diane Venora .... Gabriella Francini
Michael Chinyamurindi .... African Leader
John DeMita .... Chuck Farrell
R. Lee Ermey .... President Richard Benson

Love how detailed they are with the "leaders", at least China gets a premier.

Hey wait a sec! Gunnery Sergeant Hartman as president, maybe I'll have to go find this movie in a method that will not garner any profits to the fundy makers.

[Darth Yoshi]

For some strange reason, the preacher dude looks like Bra'tac.

[K. A. Pital]

Darth Yoshi, he is Bra'tac.