"Oh N0es! T3h EV1L GAY AGENDA!!!1" at Protest Warr

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2005-10-26 05:02pm

Oh yeah, I'd forgotten about that one. Ataru is claiming to work for Lucasfilm; he did it last time I bashed his head against the nearest wall in a debate, and now he's doing it again.

Xess · Post by **Xess** » 2005-10-26 08:18pm

Sweet frosting coated Christ can those people really be that stupid? I read fourteen pages and still don't know what the hell Ataru and his ilk are actually trying to debate about.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2005-10-26 08:40pm

Xess wrote:Sweet frosting coated Christ can those people really be that stupid? I read fourteen pages and still don't know what the hell Ataru and his ilk are actually trying to debate about.

A lot of things at once, all of them being related to homosexuality being bad in some way. They've got plenty of opposition, but they won't give it up.

Davis 51 · Post by **Davis 51** » 2005-10-26 10:05pm

I spent about 1.5 hours reading that. I want that time back.

Somewhere in that, he claimed to work on Jurassic Park. And on
Urusei Yatsura.
I got the entire list of everyone who worked on Urusei Yatsura and Jurassic Park. I wish I had the time to compare the two lists and see if there are matching names, just to shove it up Ataru's Arse.

Anyone want that list?

Anyone else notice he mispelled masturbation?

On a side note, I like Star Wars and Anime, so I find his tirade of "Star Wars Nerd" and Rogue calling him an "Anime Freak" quite amusing.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2005-10-26 10:21pm

Yes. Yes I do want that list.

Duckie · Post by **Duckie** » 2005-10-26 10:23pm

I think the Thread did a reverse Jump The Shark (that is, hit a low point) when that one guy who posts in caps and preemptively declares victory shouted "TOO BAD IF YOU ARE RIGHT! WE HAVE TEH GUNZ AND TEH VOTEZORS, GAY PPL LOOOOSE! NO MARRIAGE FOR YOU!".

It would have been a funny criticism of direct democracy had it not been serious.

Setesh · Post by **Setesh** » 2005-10-27 03:48am

On the original topic of the 'Gay manifesto'

A Curious Book

I was going to call this “The Gay Protocols” but that would be going a little far — for now. Gary Farber says, Yes, I so believe this is “a ‘bible’ of the homosexual movement." ‘This’ being this.

The piece Gary linked to is by “Marshall K. Kirk and Erastes Pill.” I googled them. Try it yourself. A coda at the bottom of the page suggests that a book called “After the Ball” followed by “Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen.” I googled them too.

Still, they did manage to write a book of that name which is for sale on Amazon. Funny that the “Customers who bought this book also bought “The Homosexual Agenda: Exposing the Principal Threat to Religious Freedom Today” by Alan Sears, “Outrage: How Gay Activists and Liberal Judges Are Trashing Democracy to Redefine Marriage” by Peter Sprigg, “Homosexuality and the Politics of Truth” by Jeffrey Satinover, “The Death of Right and Wrong: Exposing the Left’s Assault on Our Culture and Values” by Tammy Bruce, “Homosexuality: The Use of Scientific Research in the Church’s Moral Debate” by Stanton L. Jones, and “Marriage Under Fire: Why We Must Win This Battle” by James Dobson. All big sellers with the Friends of Dorothy round here.

Someone’s written a faux manual for gays, had it published, and then reviewed it on Amazon under aliases and then sent it round all the conservative family organisations in the US. Is this possible? It looks like it to me. If so, that someone should be outed.

There are in sentence links accessable at the original document.

http://backword.me.uk/2005/August/acuriousbook.html

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2005-10-27 05:34am

As I thought, this is a probably a scam similar to The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, only for homophobes. For shame, America.

Zero · Post by **Zero** » 2005-10-27 06:41am

I wonder if that one fucktard will feel like a wee bit of a moronic propaganda stooge for falling for all that shit?

Zero · Post by **Zero** » 2005-10-27 06:54am

Does it scare anyone else how these jackasses essentially will just tell you you're wrong and declare victory, and furthermore call it reason? How the hell do these folks manage to breath? Honestly... these kinds seem to almost think that if the majority voted that it was illegal to breath, then it would be right...

sorry for the double post.

drachefly · Post by **drachefly** » 2005-10-27 11:20am

VT-16 wrote:As I thought, this is a probably a scam similar to The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, only for homophobes. For shame, America.

Funny you should mention that... I've heard a somewhat loopy theory that The Protocols of the Elders of Zion wasn't a scam: it was the best intelligence available. But it also wasn't about the Jews.

It was about the Freemasons, who really were conspiring to change the face of the world (and in particular, overthrow the Tzar of Russia). When other people got hold of the document, people who didn't know the context, they improperly assumed it was about the Jews. Meanwhile, the Tzar, to whom it had been addressed, quietly purged the Freemasons from his government (that he did so and the reasons for it are well-attested historically, this part is not some loopy theory. But this, coupled with the Priory of Sion - Freemason connection, basically comprises the bulk of the theory). If the Tzar heard about its misappropriation, he didn't feel like compromising his internal security

I wonder if the same thing is going on here: true article about one group of people misattributed to another group, causes trouble for the other group.

Shortie · Post by **Shortie** » 2005-10-27 03:43pm

Akhlut wrote:The best arguement I've heard against it is from my cousin who said that gay marriage should be prevented because it deprives the child of a "proper" dualistic role model situation (ie, a teenage boy couldn't get proper advice on how to court the girl he likes). At the time I couldn't argue against it (still can't think of a good one against that, myself, except asking him if he supports mandatory marriages of single parents anyone have better ammunition against that?),

Well, my favourite is that (to take your example), everyone knows that every homosexual (male or female) couple has one butch member and one effeminate member, so if his parents are lesbians then the bull-dyke will tell him how to act all manly, and if his parents are gay men then one will know how to court girly types.

More seriously, there is your point about single parents, and that even if parents were the only available role models out there (how about uncles & aunts, grandparents, teachers, or just friends?), we're not all the same. I'm not the same as my dad, and he hasn't taught me all he knows, or even all I know (and for that matter, my mum has taught me rather a lot as well). Some stuff we do have to work out for ourselves, and that's a good thing.

Davis 51 · Post by **Davis 51** » 2005-10-28 07:05am

OK Rogue 9! Just PM me your email, and I'll send you the Excel Document!

Metatwaddle · Post by **Metatwaddle** » 2005-10-28 07:21am

Shortie wrote:The best arguement I've heard against it is from my cousin who said that gay marriage should be prevented because it deprives the child of a "proper" dualistic role model situation (ie, a teenage boy couldn't get proper advice on how to court the girl he likes). At the time I couldn't argue against it (still can't think of a good one against that, myself, except asking him if he supports mandatory marriages of single parents Confused anyone have better ammunition against that?)

If they expect every possible desirable trait or skill to be in either your mother or your father, they're seriously fucked up. It's not as if having two parents magically covers all the bases, and if you're brought up in a nuclear family then you will learn everything from one parent or the other: how to be nice to people and cook and clean from Mom, and how to fight and court girls and fix cars from Dad.

Fundies seem to think there's some beautiful balance in having one male and one female parent, as if you learn "masculine values" from Dad and "feminine values" from Mom, but that's simply not the case in many "normal" families. It's so much more complicated than that. Despite the fact that I grew up with a mother and a father, I was never taught the traditionally feminine skill of how to passively-aggressively coerce a man into reading my mind and obeying what he found (i.e. saying "Of course you can go out tonight with your friends; that's fine" when I really mean "You asshole, you should be spending your time with ME! ME ME ME!"). And I never learned the traditionally masculine skill of turning a comparison of cars into a dick-measuring contest.

Anyway, I guess what I'm trying to say is that the values and skills I learned from my parents were really independent of their genders.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2005-10-28 09:27am

The people who say that only ideal parents should be allowed to marry had best explain right fucking now why they feel that people who smoke cigarettes, drink alcohol, lack higher education, are obese, or have low-paying jobs should still be allowed to marry.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2005-10-28 02:04pm

Davis 51 wrote:OK Rogue 9! Just PM me your email, and I'll send you the Excel Document!

Blah, I don't care who has it; not like I'm not already getting spam to the max anyway. renegade.paladin

gmail.com

Elheru Aran · Post by **Elheru Aran** » 2005-10-28 02:36pm

Holy. Mother. Of. God. Seventy-three pages?!

*head hurts now* Shit, man... and here I was thinking we had long threads HERE... >.<

Pint0 Xtreme · Post by **Pint0 Xtreme** » 2005-10-28 02:43pm

Why does anyone even bother arguing with Ataru? In all likelihood, he's a stupid 12 year old dipshit on the computer. His posts continuously consists of excessive spamming of nonsense and making unfounded claims as a method of "rebuttal". All of this is really indicative of a child in need of attention. My suggestion is to stop replying to him as nothing good will come out. His idiocy is already apparent and no one needs to make it more apparent than it already is.

Davis 51 · Post by **Davis 51** » 2005-10-28 02:59pm

Alright Rogue! I sent it with the subject "Davis_51's list of names"
Knock yourself out.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2005-10-28 03:33pm

Elheru Aran wrote:Holy. Mother. Of. God. Seventy-three pages?!

*head hurts now* Shit, man... and here I was thinking we had long threads HERE... >.<

That's nothing. Threads there have run to 120 some odd pages over such arcane subjects as the Civil War; things that are actually relevant today get quite a bit more attention. That board has over 2 million posts, and is a lot more active than this one.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2005-10-28 03:34pm

Ghetto edit: Forgot to add. Ataru is stalking me around the board now, pointing out that he thinks I'm gay everywhere I post.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2005-10-28 05:38pm

Rogue 9 wrote:Ghetto edit: Forgot to add. Ataru is stalking me around the board now, pointing out that he thinks I'm gay everywhere I post.

What a fucktard. How about you check 'hide my online status' in your profile? Besides, isn't his behavior the definition of harassment and, therefore, subject to immediate banning? That's pretty much a universal rule no matter where you go.

Post by **fgalkin** » 2005-10-28 11:05pm

Rogue 9 wrote:Ghetto edit: Forgot to add. Ataru is stalking me around the board now, pointing out that he thinks I'm gay everywhere I post.

Whenever a hompohobe accuses me of being gay, I politely offer to fuck his girlfriend/sister/mother to prove that I'm not.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Davis 51 · Post by **Davis 51** » 2005-10-28 11:08pm

Oh, Rogue, I should point out that I got the Jurassic Park list from IMDB, and the Uruse Yatsura list from Anime News Network. Thats in case our little friend tries to depict both sources as "Unreliable" because they come from the internet

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thejester · Post by **thejester** » 2005-10-29 06:55am

fgalkin wrote:Ooh, you clashed with REV? After a few posts, he called me the spawn of Satan, told me I'll burn in hell, and promised to never respond to any post of mine. Then came the ignore function, and I was finally rid of him.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Good Lord. I remembert he days when I frequented TAU, and he (I'm pretty sure it's the same one) tended to be a constant presence on the Religion forum (one of the reasons I lost interest in TAU was his apparent leaving). The mention of him lead me back to TAU, and I found this thread. Absolutely priceless:

http://www.tauniverse.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26215

RPG's CAN lead to very bad things.....and Harry potter's message as well. Ultimately, it is the person who chooses what they do - but undue influence is prevelant in these two examples - consistently.

That is the kind of moron you're debating, gentleman. Enjoy yourselves.