Gallup: Majority of Americans still creationists

Galvatron · Post by **Galvatron** » 2005-10-25 02:44pm

EmperorSolo51 wrote:I myself am a Theistic Evolutionist. But I tend to agree that Creationism belongs either in a Comparative Religions Class, a Philosphy class, or in a Religious Education School All together. There is really no need for it to be taught in a Science Class at all.

The story of Creation (aka Genesis) may belong in a religion class, but Creationism (aka creation science) certainly doesn't.

Galvatron · Post by **Galvatron** » 2005-10-25 02:46pm

Durandal wrote:Woah! A Christian MILF!

I've seen lots of Christian MILFs (milves?). Corrupting them is half the fun.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2005-10-25 03:06pm

Galvatron wrote: I've seen lots of Christian MILFs (milves?). Corrupting them is half the fun.

I hear Catholic schoolgirls are betterer.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2005-10-25 03:22pm

Admiral Valdemar wrote:
Galvatron wrote: I've seen lots of Christian MILFs (milves?). Corrupting them is half the fun.
I hear Catholic schoolgirls are betterer.

It's the conflict within that makes it so fun.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2005-10-25 09:06pm

No, it's the uniform.

drachefly · Post by **drachefly** » 2005-10-26 01:13pm

Considering how corrupt the Catholic schoolgirls I met already were, it can't be the conflict within....

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2005-10-26 01:31pm

Ghost Rider wrote:It's the conflict within that makes it so fun.

Wait, the way I heard it was that they could just turn around, confess their sins, and everything was all better.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2005-10-26 01:33pm

Uraniun235 wrote:
Ghost Rider wrote:It's the conflict within that makes it so fun.
Wait, the way I heard it was that they could just turn around, confess their sins, and everything was all better.

True, but it seeing how far you can push that bit.

Also for me their uniforms are nice, but it's in line with a variety of school girl uniforms, nothing particularly standing out. Though they are in the end a wonderful case study of the conflict of indoctrination versus primal need.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2005-10-26 09:49pm

I've been curious as to what the results of the poll were based on region and age group (have they done anything like that outside of polling one state where ID in schools was an issue?)

R. U. Serious · Post by **R. U. Serious** » 2005-10-27 07:25am

18-Till-I-Die wrote:I'm a religious person, i beleive in God, but when i was...oh shit, maybe five...i understood evolution. I didnt know what it was called, but i knew what it was as in i understood the concept.

I hope you realize that this reflects really, really bad on you. You are not arguing for whether evolution is right or easy to understand with what you said. Quite the ooposite, when you are stating it is "obvious" and "can be observed by a 5 year old", you're more than likely creating the impression that you simply take it for a fact because you've always done so, without ever bothering to look at the arguments in favour and against it. Honestly, it sounds like what a creationist would say, only with the words switched out...

To be really clear: I am not doubting the conclusion in the least bit, only the way you support your argument and the way you (seemingly) _reached_ your conclusion. And by the little you said, it seems you employed the logic of the anti-science people.

Chris OFarrell · Post by **Chris OFarrell** » 2005-10-27 08:19am

Durandal wrote:
Admiral Valdemar wrote:http://www.theonion.com/content/files/i ... rticle.jpg
Woah! A Christian MILF!

There has to be a commandment SOMEWHERE about adultry being cool? I mean every other bloody commandment is contradicted...

Post by **Gandalf** » 2005-10-27 08:25am

Chris OFarrell wrote:There has to be a commandment SOMEWHERE about adultry being cool? I mean every other bloody commandment is contradicted...

God knocks up Joseph's wife, and it's viewed as a grand occasion.

So if it's for the good of humanity, you can do it.

Chris OFarrell · Post by **Chris OFarrell** » 2005-10-27 09:15am

Gandalf wrote:
Chris OFarrell wrote:There has to be a commandment SOMEWHERE about adultry being cool? I mean every other bloody commandment is contradicted...
God knocks up Joseph's wife, and it's viewed as a grand occasion.

So if it's for the good of humanity, you can do it.

Excellent.

Still one wonders how a survay like that would do over here.

McC · Post by **McC** » 2005-10-27 01:18pm

Bill Maher's show, talking about this - QuickTime required.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2005-10-28 10:47am

McC wrote:Bill Maher's show, talking about this - QuickTime required.

Salman's bit near the end was just gold!

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2005-10-28 11:26pm

Galvatron wrote:
EmperorSolo51 wrote:I myself am a Theistic Evolutionist. But I tend to agree that Creationism belongs either in a Comparative Religions Class, a Philosphy class, or in a Religious Education School All together. There is really no need for it to be taught in a Science Class at all.
The story of Creation (aka Genesis) may belong in a religion class, but Creationism (aka creation science) certainly doesn't.

I don't see why not, "christian science" is an actual sect of christianity, though creationism is an integral part of lots of evangelical groups, and should be remarked upon to some extent, as an outcrop of inerrancy dogmas and suchlike.

drachefly · Post by **drachefly** » 2005-10-31 10:32am

Have you checked up on the beliefs of the Christian Scientists recently? They may have a good newspaper, but...

I conducted a little straw poll on my commuter train -- a local sampling, to be sure, centered on the professional classes in a large city, and with a huge standard deviation due to small sample size:

How old is the universe?
5 don't know and don't care
1 didn't speak english

1 infinitely old
5 billions of years old
1 millions or billions of years old
1 millions of years old
0 thousands of years old

if we toss me in, the billions of years old tally gets up to 6.

Not that this means anything...