Wired wrote:It seems no one is safe: Google is doing Wi-Fi; Google is searching inside books; Google has a plan for ecommerce.
Of course, Google has always wanted to be more than a search engine. Even in the early days, its ultimate goal was extravagant: to organize the world's information. High-minded as that sounds, Google's ever-expanding agenda has put it on a collision course with nearly every company in the information technology industry: Amazon.com, Comcast, eBay, Yahoo!, even Microsoft.
In less than a decade, Google has gone from guerrilla startup to 800-pound gorilla. In some ways, the company is a gentle giant. Whereas Microsoft infamously smothered new and open standards, Google is famous for supporting them. And the firm is softening its image, launching a philanthropic arm, Google.org, with nearly $1 billion earmarked for social causes. But that doesn't reduce the fear factor, and Google knows it. Omid Kordestani, the company's global sales guru, said at a recent conference, "We're trying to find ways so we are not viewed as a gorilla." Given its outsize ambitions, that's one search Google might not be able to handle.
Is the sky falling? That's how it looks to panicked tech companies across the Valley as they contend with Google's ever-expanding power and ambition.
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Today, Google Video is a motley mix: clips of monkeys performing karate and robot dogs attacking iguanas. Tomorrow? No one knows, but everyone is worried.
Who's threatened: Comcast and other cable providers, Yahoo!, TV networks that still shun the Net
Signs of panic: Comcast wants to be the Google of television. Yahoo! bristles at any mention of Google Video. Networks were stunned to find Google compiling a database of their programs.
Reality check: Google Video is up and running. The question is, How much content can it attract - or pay for - to fill the database. Watch for a strategic acquisition, even something big. TiVo?
CLASSIFIEDS
When secrecy-obsessed Google let news of "Google Base" slip, it looked like an aggressive entrée into online classifieds. The test service can search ads like used-car and personals listings, which would mesh with Google Local and might even kick-start Orkut, Google's social network.
Who's threatened: craigslist, eBay, Monster, Tribe.net
Signs of panic: Within hours of the Base bombshell, eBay's market value dropped by almost $2 billion. And even before that, the classified sites were nervous. CareerBuilder and others fretted about letting Google host their feeds.
Reality check: This may be an extension of Froogle rather than a stand-alone product. But it could expand to everything from travel to eBay-like offerings.
TELECOM
Free Wi-Fi in San Francisco, instant-messaging software, a widely anticipated VoIP foray - Google's telecom initiatives seem designed to make life radically easier for users.
Who's threatened: Comcast, SBC, Verizon, Vonage, what's left of AOL
Signs of panic: Surprisingly few so far, partially because Google says it has no plans to offer Wi-Fi beyond San Francisco. Still, Comcast coined the word Comcastic - is that its answer to Googlicious?
Reality check: Something's clearly afoot, and it could be big. With great power comes great regulation - so Google recently opened a DC lobbying shop to combat "centralized control by network operators."
OPERATING SYSTEMS
If anyone can fulfill the dream of turning the Internet into the operating system, it's Google. If the company chooses to develop an OS, the move will cement Google's other initiatives into a powerful whole.
Who's threatened: Apple, Microsoft
Signs of panic: When one of Microsoft's key operating system engineers defected to Google last year, Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer threw a chair across an office and vowed to kill Google.
Reality check: The migration of applications from PCs to the Net is already happening - and it's key to Google's future. But the likelihood of a Google OS depends on what Microsoft accomplishes with its new OS, Vista.
What if a search engine trolled not just every page on the Web, but every page in every book? Amazon.com tried it first, then Google said it would "make the full text of all the world's books searchable by anyone."
Who's threatened: Amazon, Microsoft, book publishers
Signs of panic: Against the interests of a legion of obscure writers, the Authors Guild sued Google. The Association of American Publishers, with more to fear, did the same. Microsoft and Yahoo! have joined a group that's creating its own book search service.
Reality check: Making every book searchable sends a clear signal that Google has the brawn to organize the world's information. But a vicious backlash could drown out that message.
PRODUCTIVITY PROGRAMS
Google joined with Sun Microsystems in October to jointly promote and distribute apps like the Google Toolbar and Sun's free OpenOffice software. Wider distribution of the toolbar, Google's most potent Trojan horse, gives the search engine access to a world of desktops.
Who's threatened: Apple, Corel, Microsoft
Signs of panic: Microsoft launched its own toolbar and protested the decision of the Massachusetts Information Technology Department to dump Office for open source alternatives.
Reality check: It may be a fiendishly clever way to attack one of Microsoft's highest-margin products, but this tactic can't be a top priority. Google Toolbar will thrive without Sun.
ECOMMERCE
Froogle threatens no one yet. But what if, as the development of Google Wallet suggests, Google handled your every online transaction? The potential revenue from Google's cut of each purchase would make AdSense look like AdCents.
Who's threatened: Amazon, Buy.com, eBay
Signs of panic: After reports speculated that Google might take on PayPal, eBay said it would pay up to $4.1 billion for VoIP rebel Skype. Wall Street's read: With PayPal under fire, eBay needed a new growth area.
Reality check: Rather than take on PayPal directly, the company may start with something less ambitious, like handling payments for premium video content. But after that? Watch out.
Who's Afraid of Google? Everyone.
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honestly, I think I'd trust Google to do these things, and do them right, than I would MS, or AOL, or any of the other companied out there.
Google, for the most part, has shown themselves to be user oriented, and provide services for public consumption only after a extensive beta testing phase (ok, so Google's IM service could use some work.....)
Google, for the most part, has shown themselves to be user oriented, and provide services for public consumption only after a extensive beta testing phase (ok, so Google's IM service could use some work.....)
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Isn't Gmail still testing or whatever?DarkSilver wrote:Google, for the most part, has shown themselves to be user oriented, and provide services for public consumption only after a extensive beta testing phase (ok, so Google's IM service could use some work.....)
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The war continues on..." - Angela & Jeff van Dyck, We Are All One (Medieval 2: Total War)
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Nope, released into the wild.
If you want one without a recomendation/waiting list then it sends you a confirmation sms to your phone to make sure you're not a spammer
If you want one without a recomendation/waiting list then it sends you a confirmation sms to your phone to make sure you're not a spammer
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Indeed, as Death said, it's released in the wild.
I do find it a better webservice than Yahoo! Mail or Hotmail
I do find it a better webservice than Yahoo! Mail or Hotmail
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Google OS is the biggest pipedream ever. Followed closely by a Google office suite. Both are incrediably moronic ideas.
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Ha ha ha ha ha! Ahahahahaha! Ballmer is just too funny! He's like Ming the Merciless or something.Signs of panic: When one of Microsoft's key operating system engineers defected to Google last year, Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer threw a chair across an office and vowed to kill Google.
Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who did not.
He seems to be taking a page from Bobby Knight's playbook.Signs of panic: When one of Microsoft's key operating system engineers defected to Google last year, Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer threw a chair across an office and vowed to kill Google.
The guy was involved in Microsoft search engine stuff, which has nothing todo with the core OS.Signs of panic: When one of Microsoft's key operating system engineers defected to Google last year, Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer threw a chair across an office and vowed to kill Google.
If this article cant get little facts like that right...
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I like my privacy. And I don't trust Google any jota more than Microsoft or any other company with it. They just have better PR.
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You will become one with the Google.
You will all become one with the Google....
wheres that damned borg smiley when you need it.
You will all become one with the Google....
wheres that damned borg smiley when you need it.
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Yet what he creates tends to be total shit. Example: Ode to Spot.
Purely subjective. Believe it or not, there are people who like that poem.
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REPENT!
The power of Google compels you!
The power of Google compels you!
The power of Google compels you!
Lets keep this train going as long as possible, shall we?
The power of Google compels you!
The power of Google compels you!
The power of Google compels you!
Lets keep this train going as long as possible, shall we?
Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental.
Yet what he creates tends to be total shit. Example: Ode to Spot.
Purely subjective. Believe it or not, there are people who like that poem.
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Yet what he creates tends to be total shit. Example: Ode to Spot.
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Re: Who's Afraid of Google? Everyone.
First thought to enter my head:Darth Atheos wrote:Wired wrote: Steve Ballmer threw a chair across an office and vowed to kill Google.
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The Gmail logo still says beta, so google are still saying its a betaRogueIce wrote:Isn't Gmail still testing or whatever?DarkSilver wrote:Google, for the most part, has shown themselves to be user oriented, and provide services for public consumption only after a extensive beta testing phase (ok, so Google's IM service could use some work.....)
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