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Who would win?

Sauron
1
6%
The Master
2
11%
The Deciever
6
33%
Palpatine
6
33%
Jehovah
2
11%
GAT
1
6%
KNS
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All of the following are given the task of taking over the world and transported to April 2002. They can't simply destroy each other, and must take control of as much of the world as possible. They can use any means bribes, elections, religions, secret societies, black garbed evil creatures roaming the streets etc. etc.
  • Sauron (LotR)
    The Master (Dr Who)
    The Deciever (40K)
    Emperor Palpatine (SW)
    Jehovah (The Bible)
    Grand Admiral Thrawn (SW)
    Kahn Noonien Singh (ST)
Please note they can only kill their own minions, and nothing else. They can only show themselves to their own minions. They cannot build anything, nor can they use their abilities to see the future. No-one can simply frag the planet and claim to win.
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Does Sauron have the One Ring? Because if he does none of the others stand a chance.
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They can't use their powers on anyone but their minions. this includes use of the One Ring (p.s. are you sure? The deciver could simply go and kill the sun...
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The Deceiver is a C'Tan. THe Deceiver managed to trick even the Nightbringer, the most powerful C'Tan. The C'Tan EAT stars for fun. They ignore the laws of physics.

Deceiver takes it.
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I'd say the Master has the better chance in this one. In his various attempts to either take over Earth or set it up for destruction by alien invaders, the renegade Time Lord learned how to infiltrate and manipulate Earth bureaucracies, governmental agencies, and even religions. The Master understands human weakness and greed, and takes advantage of these traits to further his own ends with consummate skill. He can corrupt individuals and institutions, and set himself up at any level of authority he deems necessary. He could gain access to Earth intelligence and security networks to monitor the activities of his competitors and thus have the edge.

The Master takes this one in a year, tops —unless the Doctor is around to stop him, of course. 8)
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The Deceiver is a manipulator of the highest order and his influence is not limited to his own species. He is capable of influencing his enemy to the point where they work for him without even knowing it. The C'Tan are all incredibly old, with ages in the tens of millions of years (and probably more, because that was wehn they were FIRST discovered, so they may have been alive for a lot longer than that)
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Evil Sadistic Bastard wrote:The Deceiver is a manipulator of the highest order and his influence is not limited to his own species. He is capable of influencing his enemy to the point where they work for him without even knowing it. The C'Tan are all incredibly old, with ages in the tens of millions of years (and probably more, because that was wehn they were FIRST discovered, so they may have been alive for a lot longer than that)
C'tan are equivalent to Lovecraftian Great Old Ones or even Outer Gods. Very powerful, but not omnipotent.
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weemadando wrote:
Evil Sadistic Bastard wrote:The Deceiver is a manipulator of the highest order and his influence is not limited to his own species. He is capable of influencing his enemy to the point where they work for him without even knowing it. The C'Tan are all incredibly old, with ages in the tens of millions of years (and probably more, because that was wehn they were FIRST discovered, so they may have been alive for a lot longer than that)
C'tan are equivalent to Lovecraftian Great Old Ones or even Outer Gods. Very powerful, but not omnipotent.
I wanted to say that, being that they CAN be bested by sufficient force of arms. Thanks, weemadando.
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Evil Sadistic Bastard wrote:The Deceiver is a C'Tan. THe Deceiver managed to trick even the Nightbringer, the most powerful C'Tan. The C'Tan EAT stars for fun. They ignore the laws of physics.

Deceiver takes it.
NecronLord wrote:They can't use their powers on anyone but their minions. this includes use of the One Ring (p.s. are you sure? The deciver could simply go and kill the sun...
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This was a test to see who is the most devious not who can beat the others over the head (hell any of them could beat thrawn then.) The objective is to start a religion (Jehovah cannot use the pre-existing ones) or secret society to worship them and generally corrupt people. Not eat the sun...
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You forgot the Imortal Emperor of Mankind...he spent 39,000 years pulling the strings behind mankind before he took control...and has been called a master manipulator by a Greater Daemon of Tzzeench...

But thats besides the point, I think the Master would take it...
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Too bad the God-Emperor of Man isnt here, though.
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For added fun the God-Emperor of man exists. but due to technical difficulties is bound by the same rules as the others.
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Sauron makes everyone around him bow to his will to domniate.
I have no idea what the Master does.
The Deceiver tricks everyone into worshipping him by bribing everyone.
Palpy lies like a connving political dawg that he is to gain political power.
Jehovah is laughed out of existence.
GAT is thrown out for being dumb-looking.
Kahn... I din't know about him.
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Palpy took over an ancient, galaxy spanning society.
Earth is toast. :twisted:
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So did the god emperor of man. Except he helped found it as well...
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NecronLord wrote:So did the god emperor of man. Except he helped found it as well...
And the C'Tan Deceiver specialised in tricking beings of God-like intelligence.
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Ignoring the fact that the deciever is just a less-powerful Tzeentch ripoff, I'd say he takes it.

While he's certainly not the most powerful of the contestants(At least not after stasis.) He is the one FAMOUS for intrigue and deciet, while most of the others rely at least somewhat on more direct methods, which are going to be somewhat less easy and certainly more time consuming than manipulating your way to the top.

The Deciever benefits the most from the scenario rules, and until he gets his butt handed to him by Tzeentch, the TRUE master of intrigue and deception (No I don't care if Tzeentch isn't even in the contest, he'll find some way round the rules anyway.)

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Tatterdemalion wrote:Ignoring the fact that the deciever is just a less-powerful Tzeentch ripoff, I'd say he takes it.

While he's certainly not the most powerful of the contestants(At least not after stasis.) He is the one FAMOUS for intrigue and deciet, while most of the others rely at least somewhat on more direct methods, which are going to be somewhat less easy and certainly more time consuming than manipulating your way to the top.

The Deciever benefits the most from the scenario rules, and until he gets his butt handed to him by Tzeentch, the TRUE master of intrigue and deception (No I don't care if Tzeentch isn't even in the contest, he'll find some way round the rules anyway.)

All hail the Changer of Wa... I mean... The Deciever
Ahh yes Tzeench.. aka he who is dependent on other lifeforms for his existance, and whom the C'tan are going to smiteth with extreme predjudice.
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Evil Sadistic Bastard wrote:Sauron makes everyone around him bow to his will to domniate.
I have no idea what the Master does.
The Deceiver tricks everyone into worshipping him by bribing everyone.
Palpy lies like a connving political dawg that he is to gain political power.
Jehovah is laughed out of existence.
GAT is thrown out for being dumb-looking.
Kahn... I din't know about him.
God-Emperor of Man - Uses natural charisma and ties with Sauron and Deceiver for the worship from a third of humanity.
NecronLord wrote:The objective is to start a religion (Jehovah cannot use the pre-existing ones) or secret society to worship them and generally corrupt people.
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I think the Deceiver takes it. That said, Cegorach tricks all the contestents into fighting with each other and then goes back to the Webway.
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NecronLord wrote: Ahh yes Tzeench.. aka he who is dependent on other lifeforms for his existance, and whom the C'tan are going to smiteth with extreme predjudice.
*Hijacks thread*

Yup, Tzeentch who turned an entire star system into a bunch of roses. Eating stars is so last millenia...
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Tatterdemalion wrote:
NecronLord wrote: Ahh yes Tzeench.. aka he who is dependent on other lifeforms for his existance, and whom the C'tan are going to smiteth with extreme predjudice.
*Hijacks thread*

Yup, Tzeentch who turned an entire star system into a bunch of roses. Eating stars is so last millenia...
It was in the Eye of Terror, which doesn't count, as the laws of physics are messed up there
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Tatterdemalion wrote:
NecronLord wrote: Ahh yes Tzeench.. aka he who is dependent on other lifeforms for his existance, and whom the C'tan are going to smiteth with extreme predjudice.
*Hijacks thread*

Yup, Tzeentch who turned an entire star system into a bunch of roses. Eating stars is so last millenia...
And likely Tzeentch would have gotten his ass handed to him by the C'Tan if they ever met.
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Evil Sadistic Bastard wrote:
Tatterdemalion wrote:
NecronLord wrote: Ahh yes Tzeench.. aka he who is dependent on other lifeforms for his existance, and whom the C'tan are going to smiteth with extreme predjudice.
*Hijacks thread*

Yup, Tzeentch who turned an entire star system into a bunch of roses. Eating stars is so last millenia...
And likely Tzeentch would have gotten his ass handed to him by the C'Tan if they ever met.
Not exactly if they met in a realspace only area it would be over pretty quick though
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