"Infinites" for PT?

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2005-11-22 01:57pm

Does anyone know if Dark Horse has any plans to publish a new trilogy of Infinites for the now completed PT? I've heard rumors and I was simply curious, that's all.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2005-11-22 02:07pm

Lord, I hope not...

Crossroads Inc. · Post by **Crossroads Inc.** » 2005-11-22 03:02pm

Can someone give some examples of just how bad the Infities are?

The Grim Squeaker · Post by **The Grim Squeaker** » 2005-11-22 03:04pm

How do you know that Vader has come back from the Dark side?
You show him in brite white armour identical to his usual version

Noble Ire · Post by **Noble Ire** » 2005-11-22 03:07pm

DEATH wrote:How do you know that Vader has come back from the Dark side?
You show him in brite white armour identical to his usual version

My memory is a bit hazy, but in the ANH one, doesn't Yoda end up killing the trillions of civilians on Coruscant in order to destroy the DS/Emperor?

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2005-11-22 03:10pm

Crossroads Inc. wrote:Can someone give some examples of just how bad the Infities are?

1. SW Infinites: We have at the climax Yoda and R2 take over the Death Star and RAMS it into Coruscant to defeat the Emperor, after we have RoTJ moment with Luke, Leia and Vader.

All because Luke missed hitting the exhaust port, and oh yeah the Death Star misfired to hit Yavin.

2. ESB Infinites: Luke dies by random, which means for some reason Leia gets ultra quickie trained via Yoda. Vader gets defeated after finding out Luke is dead and while slightly distracted Han is able to pretty much put the kibosh on him and oh yeah, Vader then repents.

3. RoTJ Infinites: Sadly the least offensive. Han is blind because he was too long in Carbonite.....they really don't explain why, and because of Yoda's death, Luke confronts Vader eariler.

The Endor Attacks goes piss poor, because no hero team...BUT their fat is pulled out of the fire, because Blind Han destroy the Bunker with the Falcon's guns and thus the fleet is then able to attack the Death Star.

On the Death Star, Luke faces Vader off, with Leia looking and because Leia is there....they don't force the final conflict. While the Death Star is about to explode...Palpatine escapes...but Vader gets to not only live, but join the Rebel Alliance, and get WHITE armor.

Crossroads Inc. · Post by **Crossroads Inc.** » 2005-11-22 04:04pm

AHHH!! Rerading it, it burns my Eyesss! make it stop, Make It Stop!!!

McC · Post by **McC** » 2005-11-22 07:43pm

...I dunno what's wrong with you people, but I enjoyed the Infinities.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2005-11-23 01:03am

McC wrote:...I dunno what's wrong with you people, but I enjoyed the Infinities.

You're the one that's got something wrong with them.

Battlehymn Republic · Post by **Battlehymn Republic** » 2005-11-23 01:55am

Ghost Rider wrote:2. ESB Infinites: Luke dies by random, which means for some reason Leia gets ultra quickie trained via Yoda. Vader gets defeated after finding out Luke is dead and while slightly distracted Han is able to pretty much put the kibosh on him and oh yeah, Vader then repents.

He gets killed by a wampa, didn't he?

Well, even if the Infitinites the comics themselves weren't so good, is the whole idea of alternate univers- er, alternate courses of action in the Star Wars universe so bad?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2005-11-23 02:16am

No, the idea of Elseworlds for Star Wars aren't really that bad of an idea. It's just that the products they put out were simply terrible ideas and not worth the paper they were printed on.

Personally, what I would have liked to see as an Infinities, was something using the earlier drafts and design work concepts as source material. I think the idea of a The Star Wars graphic novel would be rather neat.

Post by **Vympel** » 2005-11-23 02:40am

I randomly flipped through all three of the movie Infinities comics when I was in the States- god they were awful.

The Grim Squeaker · Post by **The Grim Squeaker** » 2005-11-23 04:45am

Battlehymn Republic wrote: He gets killed by a wampa, didn't he?

Froze to death.
And the idea of alternate universes is very cool, but just came off badly, it would probably have worked better as a "What if?" style a la Marvel comics

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2005-11-23 08:02am

For once I completely agree with Spanky. Literally the idea is a great concept, just to see if a writer is intelligent enough to see what one peg gone will do to the SW story at that time.

They just had shitty writers who didn't grasp this simple concept.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2005-11-24 07:24am

Hey now, I don't see what's so wrong about me having a good idea from time to time. Just because I'm a liberal arts student doesn't mean I'm a complete and total idiot.

Edward Yee · Post by **Edward Yee** » 2005-11-24 02:47pm

Hear hear, Spanky!

No, the problem is that they ended up continuing to hold to things elsewhere in the trilogy -- not enough real speculation.

I will say this is the worst: In ANH #4, Luke and Han > Emperor's Royal Guards with double-bladed lightsabers! (Yes, all of the Royal Guards have Darth Maul's!)

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 2005-11-28 06:33am

At least it showed Han has some Darth Maul skillz.

Agreed, they were quite silly, despite good artwork.

Tychu · Post by **Tychu** » 2005-11-28 12:50pm

I am one of those few who like the Infinities as a whole. I loved ANH Infinites, though i hated the ESB and enjoyed the ROTJ one.

Since the conclusion of the ROTJ one i always hoped there would be a PT one. Even a simple change like Qui Gon maby felt a tremor in the force and commed the pilots on the Republic ship and they got away. That would have changed everything IMO

Oddysseus · Post by **Oddysseus** » 2005-11-28 08:27pm

What happens in the jedi never make it to Naboo? What if they flee the ship and get back to the Republic? What if the Chancellor had jsut sent some diplomats instead? We could finally know what Sidious's original game plan was (as he claimed that the jedi weren't supposed to be there).

Koolaidkirby · Post by **Koolaidkirby** » 2005-11-28 09:24pm

well... i'm pretty sure that the previous chancellor (Velorum or some such thing) was the one to order the jedi to naboo, which means it could of possibly been done without palpatines knowledge (hence the order to kill them)

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 2005-11-29 06:41am

I guess the trouble with the SW Infinities trilogy was that instead of exploring real possibilities, they just tried to make the wildest most improbable things happen, while trying to shoehorn in Prequel references.

The main draw for me was simply seeing the events of the original trilogy done in a modern, well drawn format with good color that reminded me of watching the movies.

Of the batch, ANH:I was probably the best. I read them all once, but I just can't help realizing the absurdity of the stories. I guess they thought what would "really" happen (in character and consistent with the rest of the universe already established in the films) just wouldn't be exciting enough, so they had to toss in filler and zaniness like Vader getting hacked apart by a gang of Jedi ghosts, turning into little kid Anakin and then scaring Yoda with big black eyes (a la Peter Jackson's Bilbo scary face in FOTR).

Imaginative, yes. Believable, no.

So yeah, if they created a Prequel Trilogy: Infinities, I'd probably read it just to see what they came up with, but if it followed the past series I wouldn't expect anything serious.

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 2005-11-29 06:44am

Koolaidkirby wrote:well... i'm pretty sure that the previous chancellor (Velorum or some such thing) was the one to order the jedi to naboo, which means it could of possibly been done without palpatines knowledge (hence the order to kill them)

Yeah, Valorum (sp?) did it, according to the opening crawl of Episode I. In Episode III they say the Jedi Order is answerable to the Senate, not the Chancellor, so I don't know if that's an inconsistency or not.

Elheru Aran · Post by **Elheru Aran** » 2005-11-29 08:41am

Kurgan wrote:
Koolaidkirby wrote:well... i'm pretty sure that the previous chancellor (Velorum or some such thing) was the one to order the jedi to naboo, which means it could of possibly been done without palpatines knowledge (hence the order to kill them)
Yeah, Valorum (sp?) did it, according to the opening crawl of Episode I. In Episode III they say the Jedi Order is answerable to the Senate, not the Chancellor, so I don't know if that's an inconsistency or not.

Probably the Jedi as a whole answer to the Senate, but likely the Chancellor can make requests of the Senate to send Jedi upon certain missions.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2005-11-29 02:37pm

Jesus, the whole Vader/Jedi ghost fight on Dagobah in ESB:I was just complete and total bullshit. Seriously, what the hell?

I mean, the idea of having Leia getting trained instead of Luke was a good one, but they didn't seem to have any clue how to actually handle it or go on from there. Everything else was just junk that didn't work.

Another thing that bugged me was how ANH:I and ESB:I tried to be so conclusive: basically cramming in the rest of the OT into them so they could be self-contained stories. Bullshit.

....

And then RotJ:I comes along with an open ending: what gives?