Gorefiend wrote:veeres gets cleared up in the new essential guide to characters
You are probably thinking of General Veers's identification with the Captain Veers seen in Dark Empire II; this is not the 'other' General Veers, who was mentioned in the Heir to the Empire Sourcebook as having been a general while the Princess Leia of Alderaan was still a member of the Imperial Senate; it is well established that Maximilian Veers was 'only' a colonel at that time, so this General Veers must be someone else. Given that some surnames are common, no further explanation is necessary.
colonel thrawn actually makes sense with the established imperial rank system in the imperial sourcebook
If he is supposed to be Mitth'raw'nruodo, Colonel Thrawn makes no sense at all. If he is supposed to be someone else, then who is he?
Iillor had been sent to serve under Colonel Thrawn and a host of other alien superior officers before she had been given a ship of her own. X-Wing Book 1
Hmm… these is a brief period about 10 months after Yavin were Thrawn could have been a Colonel, before becoming Vice-Admiral, during which time he might have commanded Iillor. So it is not completely impossible, but it would really have been better if they wrote Captain.
From the Datapad of Voren Na 'al, former Director of New Republic Council Research (retired). This report was prepared shortly after the destruction of Mount Taniss. - Thrawn Trilogy Sourcebook
As for Veers, it could be possible that Na’al mentioned the rank Veers had at the time of publishing of his report, not at the time of Page joining him, but it could of course also be a different General Veers.
A space warfare officer of Iillor's rank -- she must certainly have been a lieutenant commander or commander at the time -- does not serve under the command of an Army officer. Nor could Captain Thrawn have found time to be a colonel during that time, seeing that he would have had to pass through the ranks of line captain, commodore, and rear admiral before attaining the rank of vice admiral in time for TIE Fighter. 'Colonel' Thrawn is simply not tenable, unless it is an inexplicable nickname for Mitth'raw'nuruodo.
It does not seem very likely that Na'al would refer to Maximilian Veers by his present rank of general and then in the very next sentence refer to "Senator Leia Organa of Alderaan." The entire paragraph is set in the past; the context of the sentence does not suggest future information of any kind ("after garduating from the Academy with honors, Page was assigned to General Veers' command in the Imperial Army"). Indeed, it makes no sense to refer to Senator Organa by her title at that time (which no longer existed) and General Veers by his present title (which did not exist at that time).
At any rate, the point of both incidents is that they are minor glitches that would require some explanation (as demonstrated by your very efforts to make sense of them), but they are apparently regarded as being so minor that no effort has been made to clarify them.
Publius wrote:Especially since it is only assumed by many that stormtroopers must be clones because their armor resembles that of the clonetroopers; none of the films actually state this. Mere resemblance of uniform is not a compelling argument in favor of identical origin, lest one conclude that the US Navy is in fact the militant wing of the US Postal Service.
Well, it's more like we assume it because Lucas explicitly said that's what he intended (see the DVDs for examples). I was perfectly willing to accept it was just they kept the armor until he made a big issue of it.
That certainly pissed off most everyone who followed the EU, and he may have felt compelled to make the concession he did on account of that...
If it wasn't explicit before, it's obvious now that the Flanneled One is revising his story, as he often does.
fun/fantasy movies existed before the overrated Star Wars came out. What made it seem 'less dark' was the sheer goofy aspect of it: two robots modeled on Laurel & Hardy, and a smartass outlaw with bigfoot co-pilot and their hotrod pizza-shaped ship, and they were sucked aboard a giant Disco Ball. -adw1
Someone asked me yesterday if Dracula met Saruman and there was a fight, who would win. I just looked at this man. What an idiotic thing to say. I mean really, it was half-witted. - Christopher Lee JKA Server 2024
If it wasn't explicit before, it's obvious now that the Flanneled One is revising his story, as he often does.
Although Lucas' revisionism is well-known, I do remember seeing at least one article from the early 80s describing stormtroopers as clones. There's never been any real refutation of this anyway, since we've only seen individual troopers without armor, not entire armies. In other words, not enough evidence to point towards regular people only.
We all remember that, but the point is it was never picked up by anyone, and so the history went in a different direction.
Plus, remember how everyone balked about the different heights and voices?
We really don't know what is underneath that armor. And voice boxes can be changed (ex: Vader). For all we know they all look like Magic Johnson.
I like to think that each of those suits is really full of Force animated Jello (lemon flavor, if you were wondering).
Why do you think the Ewoks were so happy to slaughter them?
fun/fantasy movies existed before the overrated Star Wars came out. What made it seem 'less dark' was the sheer goofy aspect of it: two robots modeled on Laurel & Hardy, and a smartass outlaw with bigfoot co-pilot and their hotrod pizza-shaped ship, and they were sucked aboard a giant Disco Ball. -adw1
Someone asked me yesterday if Dracula met Saruman and there was a fight, who would win. I just looked at this man. What an idiotic thing to say. I mean really, it was half-witted. - Christopher Lee JKA Server 2024
