TheDarkling wrote:Vympel:
I know I shuoldnt but you.... i cant think of a word to describe it, idiocy does reach far enough.
Flames flames flames.
Prove they have a shared conciousness.
That's what I heard. If I'm incorrect, show me to be incorrect.
Prove tyat it extends across the inter dimensional barrier.
Why shouldn't it?
Prove it isnt range dependant.
If it was that would actually hurt your argument, not help it- in 10,000 LY as you say there's not a single S8472 ship within earshot?
No you are saying they have some magical ability that has no basis - PROVE your intersection theory, give one example that explains it.
Actually I think that's closer to your uber pan-galactic S8472 that can open up portals anywhere and have hyperdrive speed based on vague dialog.
1.The north west passage was 8472 being systematic.
HAHAHAHAHA. Righttttt. A 'narrow corridor' in the heart of enemy territory is systematic. Do you have any idea how militarily MORONIC a narrow corridor is? If they had the capabilties you claim, there certainly wouldn't be a narrow corridor sitting in Borg space for Voyager to sneak through and there certainly wouldn't be such a high concentration of S8472 ships emerging from a single location if they can open their 'singularities' ANYWHERE and strike the Borg ANYWHERE.
Additionally, you have failed to show S8472 used the ability you are so quick to credit them with on the Borg, and attempted to deflect me with a blatant 'prove that they didn't' burden of proof fallacy. Concession Accepted.
2.PROVE they knew of his plight.
Unlike you, I will admit I can't. However, in light of the ability you claim, it doesn't make much sense.
3.HIS SHIP WAS DAMAGED -ITS STATED HIS SHIP WAS DAMAGED SO HE COULDNT GET HOME.
Read my posts would you - thats the first step to understanding.
It's stated that because of the ship damage, he couldn't open a portal?
4.THEY DO USE IT AGAINST THE BORG.
Oh now you're sure? I thought you asked me to prove that they didn't? Your position is so consistent.
They open a portal THREE times outside the northwest passage that we see - once to attack a Borg world and twice to attack Voyager.
And it's still a red herring. That they opened a portal 'outside' of the Northwest Passage is a minor point. How far outside? Your habit of not quoting someone exactly and responding to their exact questions is getting annoying.
They have telepathic powers to converse with other telepaths beyond that they dont have abilities (this is made very clear).
PS PROVE they do.
According to net sources, it's stated that it's unknown if S8472 even has a spoken language. If they speak only telepathically, how do you think they communicate with their superiors and fellow warships if not telepathically?
No it just translates to a complex series of coincidents to open portals at random locations (still helps they against the empire so it makes little diff) where they need them - again PROVE your theory.
I'm saying that the ability is limited, rather than unlimited. That's all.
Now you can't understand english - "the simulation (of earth) will be real soon enough" "how soon?" " weeks/days" it means that in weeks/day they will be in the actual San Fran and not the mock up of one they have - please tell me you are just training to derail rational debate and arent actually "thinking" in this manner.
Fine. So we go back to whether they know where Earth is even though they don't know Voyager is alone in the DQ and has the only sample of a weapon that can hurt them; even though they can read their thoughts and create a replica of San Francisco. Your argument would be aided if you could show where it's said that they think Voyager's 'mission' is 'classified' (a patently ridiculous idea prima facie, considering that they can read minds enough to simulate San Fran)
The Borg NEVER raise an objection, we NEVER here anything like - lucky us Voyager is in a portal local lets open up a portal - its just dive in and go, 7 NEVER mentions these limitations so if the points of intersection are random they must also been very very common.
They also don't raise an objection to the enemy walking about their own ships. The Borg are proven morons.
Regarding random and common- it's certainly possible that they're quite common depending on the region of space. The 'north west passage' is obviously an important bridgehead for S8472 attacking the Borg.
Feds:Couldnt possibly know what we dont - Torres could figure out who to open a portal - care to explain how you would go about that?
Red herring and you know it. Ability to open a portal does not translate into intimate knowledge of S8472 transit limitations.
You seriously doubt a damaged ship would be orders of magnitude slower - we have seen fed ships limited to warp 2 before thats about 1000 (10,000 ??) times less than top speed.
In reference to STAR WARS. Not Trek.
No that quote isnt open to interpretation, some are but that quote is plain as day to anyone but a biased moron or a regular moron.
And what quote is that? This would be a lot easier if you had the courtesy to show what you were responding to. As it is your formatting allows you to conveniently dodge points you are uncomfortable with.
I care not what Wong has said - yes the weapon seems stupid but the fact is they know their tech better than us, prehaps the nanites were going to replicate etc - I dont really care Wongs opinion < People at home with the tech.
Which just goes to show your mindset. The weapon couldn't possibly work, but because someone floated the idea without even trying it you think it's the ultimate weapon. Right.
Now I just want to know are you too, Stupid/Biased/Prideful to actually debate - its one of those so which is it (all of the above?).
Irrelevant Flames flames flames I'm debating you're not blah blah blah
Therefore the point still stands: If a piece of shit like Voyager can do it then anyone should be able to.
) the point is that he had lost contact with his people, theres no mention of a huge hive mind like network (maybe the ships amplify the telepathic signals they are afterall made of the same stuff).
