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James Luceno fucking rules. Emphasis is all his.

In the medical centre, Vader has his helmet off as medical droids work on him:
p. 122 wrote:Glacing at him, Vader gestured to his face and black-cloaked body, then gestured in similar fashion to Sidious. "Look at us. Are these the faces of victory?"

Sidious was careful to keep himself from becoming too angry, or too sickened by his pupil's self-pity.

"We are not this crude stuff, Lord Vader. Have you not heard that before?"

"Yes," Vader said. "Yes, I've heard it before. Too often."

"But from me you will learn the truth of it."
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p.133 wrote:Now that the galaxy was his to rule, there was nothin to prevent Sidious, too, from unlocking that mystery [ability to survive death].

Then he and his crippled apprentice might hold sway over the galaxy for ten thousand years, and live eternally.
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p.134 wrote:Even if she had survived Mustafar, their love would have died- Padme might even have lost the will to live- and their child would have become Sidious's [sic] and Vader's to raise.

Might that child have been the first memeber of a new Sith order of thousands or millions? Hardly. The idea of a Sith order was a corruption of the intent of the ancient Dark Lords. Fortunately, Darth Bane had understood that, and had insisted that only in rare instances should there exist more than two lords, Master and apprentice, at any given time.

But two were necessary for the perpetuation of the Sith Order.

And so it fell to Sidious to complete Vader's convalescence ...

Yes, Vader was not precisely what he had bargained for. Vader's legs and arms were artificial, and he would never be able to summon lightning or leap about like the Jedi had been fond of doing. His dark side training was just beginning. But Sith power resided not in the flesh but in the will ...

Vader's real weaknesses were psychological rather than physical, and for Vader to overcome them he would need to be driven deeper into himself, to confront all his choices and disappointments.

Powered by treachery, the Sith Master-apprentice relationship was always a dangerous game. Trust was encouraged even while being sabotaged; loyalty was demanded even while betrayal was prized; suspicion was nourished even while honesty was praised.

Fundamental to Vader's growth was the desire to overthrow his Master.

Had Vader killed Obi-Wan on Mustafar, he might have attempted to kill Sidious, as well. In fact, Sidious would've been surprised if Anakin hadn't made an attempt. Now, however, incapable of so much as breathing on his own, Vader could not rise to the challenge, and Sidious understood he would need to do everything in his power to shake Vader out of his despair, and reawaken the incredible power within him.

Even at Sidious's own peril ...
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I should make the bookstore rounds after classes to see if anyone has it.
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Just finished it. Quite good, not much I objected to really, if at all. It's late here now, I'll post some more quotes later.
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At first, I HATED the portrayal of Vader. But then I realized that putting him in such a light was necessary to show his growth into a true "Dark Lord", and by the end, I was very satisfied.

I also skipped most of the parts with the "good guys". I bought the book for Vader, dammit. Not a bunch of truly annoying do-gooders
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NeoGoomba wrote:I also skipped most of the parts with the "good guys". I bought the book for Vader, dammit. Not a bunch of truly annoying do-gooders
Without the 'good guys' a villian is just a sick murdering bastard at least more so than they are already. The villian's job it to make it hard on the 'good guys' or better yet hand them many key defeats
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In an earlier thread, I heard the DS scene being mentioned. Where does it appear in the book, if at all?
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I picked it up today on sale for $20. Hopefully I'll be able to crack into it sometime tonight.
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Another good quote in that book that I can't seem to locate is Vader saying he remembered Sidious saying that the Sith had moved beyond lightsabers, and that they use them if for no other reason than to humiliate the Jedi.

A cookie to the man who can find the page number for me.

other good ones include, and I only paraphrase since I don't want to get ontop of a chair and pull down the book from my bookshelf to leaf through the pages to find these....


Always two there should be, a master, and an apprentice. One to embody power, the other to crave it.-Darth Bane


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As for the DS is mentioned, but not by name. It's referrenced as the "moonlet sized weapon" Sidious was having constructed under whose shadow Vader constructed his Sith Saber.
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I want this book, but it cannot be had for love nor money in NZ :evil:
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NeoGoomba wrote:I also skipped most of the parts with the "good guys". I bought the book for Vader, dammit. Not a bunch of truly annoying do-gooders
Eh, Startstone was annoying; you'll get no argument from me there. I, however, liked Shryne's character and was sad to see him fall by Vader's hand (though his final vision was a nice set-up for ROTJ).
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JME2 wrote: Eh, Startstone was annoying; you'll get no argument from me there. I, however, liked Shryne's character and was sad to see him fall by Vader's hand (though his final vision was a nice set-up for ROTJ).
Yeah, Shryne did deserve respect, and he did appeal to me as a character. But in all honesty, I would have been upset if he DIDN'T go down fighting Vader. But he did put up one hell of a fight.

Isolder74 wrote:Without the 'good guys' a villian is just a sick murdering bastard at least more so than they are already. The villian's job it to make it hard on the 'good guys' or better yet hand them many key defeats
Yeah, but that in itself doesnt make them interesting/entertaining, or save them from being crappy characters. I will conceed that Shryne was not part of this, but the rest of the "good guys" were, to me, lame and really not able to hold my interest. The only thing these characters were introduced for were to be beaten by Vader, not to ramble around the galaxy wasting pages in Vader's own book.
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I can imagine the light-hearted comedy "Two Sith and Baby" starring Tom Selleck as Darth Vader and Ted Dansen as the Emperor (guest starring Steve Guttenberg as Tarkin).
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This book is a goldmine on Vader's physical condition in the weeks following RotS. I can't wait to see how Saxton updates his injuries page.

Vader's eardrums were melted on Mustafar, so he relies on inner ear implants in order to hear.
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Something I just noticed: Anakin *was* created by the Force to bring balance, not by Sidious or Plagueis. Observe:
Page 133 wrote:[Sidious] recalled thinking: What if Anakin should die?
How many years would he have had to search for an apprentice even half as powerful in the Force, let alone one created by the Force itself to restore balance,
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Pcm979 wrote:Something I just noticed: Anakin *was* created by the Force to bring balance, not by Sidious or Plagueis. Observe:
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But Vader merely stood like a statue, his blade angled down toward the ground until the very instant the two Jedi unleashed their assault.

Then, as the three blades joined in scatterings of dazzling light and grating static sounds, he moved.

Forte and Kulka were skilled duelists, but Vader was not only faster than Starstone remembered him being on Murkhana against Master Chatak, but also more agile. He employed his awesome power to bring a quick end to the fancy twirling of his opponents, who fell back against the hammering blows of Vader's bloodshine blade.

Time and again the two Jedi Knights attempted to alter their style, but Vader had an answer for every lunge, parry and riposte. His style borrowed elements from all techniques of combat, even from the highest, most dangerous levels, and his moves were crisp and unpredictable. In addition, his remarkable foresight allowed him to anticipate Forte's and Kulka's strategies and maneuvers, his blade always one step ahead of theirs, notwitshtanding the two-handed grip he employed.

Toying with the Jedi, he grazed Forte on the left shoulder, then on the right thigh; Kulka, he pierced lightly in the abdomen, then shaved away the flesh on the right side of Ho'Din's face.

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Crown wrote:Has this been forgotten?
My friend borrowed my book, the bastard. He still hasn't finished it. Slowww reader.
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Shadow WarChief wrote:Another good quote in that book that I can't seem to locate is Vader saying he remembered Sidious saying that the Sith had moved beyond lightsabers, and that they use them if for no other reason than to humiliate the Jedi.
Of course, what they think, and what they truly are are two seperate things. Sith have a long tradition of dying on Jedi's lightsabers. :wink:
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Shadow WarChief wrote:Another good quote in that book that I can't seem to locate is Vader saying he remembered Sidious saying that the Sith had moved beyond lightsabers, and that they use them if for no other reason than to humiliate the Jedi.
Of course, what they think, and what they truly are are two seperate things. Sith have a long tradition of dying on Jedi's lightsabers. :wink:
It was also in the context of trying to get Vader out of bitching and whining. We know what does happen...Sith use lightsabers, and die by them.

But for the time, Palpatine was trying to goad Vader into thinking "You're a Sith now, we don't bitch about our weakness."
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I was actually very happy with the Jedi story arc in the book. I liked Starstone and Shryne. All and all, they represented an importent fact for surviving Jedi, the need to move on.

As arrogant as the Jedi were by the end, it's pretty importent lesson for them to learn. Kind of their last 'attachment' they need to get over.
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In terms of tech stuff, the "anti-laser aerosols" used by the Seperatists in the beginning of the book caught my attention. We know that they can scatter gunship ball turret lasers, making them useless at any kind of range. But, they do nothing to stop Star Destroyer turbolaser fire (thank you, Luceno, for not subscribing to any sort of "no limits" thing) and by the end of the battle, they've pretty much been nullified.

Are these unique to the book so far? They could be very useful against anyone who's playing defense and/or using many missiles.
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Dark Lord pg121 wrote:"The eluded me." Vader lifted his scarred face to regard Sidious. "But they wouldn't have if this suit didn't restrict me to the point of immobility! If the Star Destroyer you placed at my command was properly equipped! If Sienar had completed work on the starfighter I designed!"
Interesting. This quote implies that the TieX may have been designed 20 years before ANH. Maybe it was more than a prototype for the interceptor, rather the prototype for the standard Tie fighter. Of course, one could say that Vader 'designed' more than one ship for Sienar to develope for him in two decades.
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Yeah, I think it's much more likely that Vader's designing some srt of prototype TIE than his ANH ship.
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It could also be Something Completely Different, you know. There's no rule that absolutely everything has to follow one of the existing design lineages.
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