Triforcer wrote: Fluff? Mr. Wong wouldn't answer this, so perhaps you would have. Please tell me how your totally unsupported argument that the Remnant would easily beat the Federation is at all supportable.
1. Pellaeon has shown his willingness to make peace with the Republic. He is not a warmonger, so the premise that he would even attack at all is suspect.
Outright lie. He wants more territory, as demonstrated in
Destiny's Way, which you professed to have read. So do the Moffs that control these things. If they found 150 inhabited planets that were not protected by treaty, they would go to war to take them.
2. Lets go with a conservative estimate and say that the Remnant still has 150 Star Destroyers. How make can they spare when they are in a fight trying to stave off EXTINCTION at the hands of the Vong? How much resources would Pellaeon spare on attacking a galaxy of largely unknowns while gravitic anomalies are squeezing Munnilinnst or Bastion in half?
Outright lie. As of
Destiny's Way the Empire is not even at war with the Yuuzhan Vong and is certainly not in any immediate danger. In fact, they have the ability to bargain with the New Republic as to the terms on which they enter the war. The New Republic needs them to enter the war, but the Remnant has no immediate need to. In fact, the Chiss project that they had no reason to, at least until the Battle of Ebaq, which was confirmed by statements made by Pelleon. Had you read the EU, you would know this. The fact that you don't does not instill us with confidence as to your knowledge and reasoning skills.
3. The Empire is one one-thousandth the size it was. Anyone who thinks, just in general, that it would be just as easy for the Remnant to conquer the Feds (and allies) as the Empire is smoking crack, plain and simple.
Outright lie and unsubstantiated claim. The UFP has no technology that could stand up to a small group of Imperial ships. Death Squadron could easily defeat them, and the riches and wealth shown by the Remnant in
Destiny's Way demonstrates conclusively that they still have considerable resources. The only potential problem that they would have is in the ground forces arena, but it could be argued that ground forces are unnecessary because of the enormous starship advantage that the Empire has, with the assumption being that the Empire would only need large garrisons on a few worlds along with the threat of their capital ships.
Basically I've heard two arguments today...
1. The Remnant would conquer the Feds just as easily as the Empire, even in the middle of their own fight for their lives! I don't have to prove this because if someone determines the right answer to a math problem is 1, and I take 5-3 and get 1, then the process really doesn't matter!
Not really. The Remnant might have more problems, or it may have less. The Remnant would make conquering the UFP their top priority. The Empire at its height would dedicate only miniscule resources to the operation, unless it somehow managed to lose a battle. Demonstrate that the Remnant could not defeat the UFP, or that the UFP could defeat a group of (we'll say) three ISD's, and you would have a case. Since you have shown no evidence that the UFP would be able to do this, you have no case. It would be harder for them Remnant to win, but they would still win. What part of this do you have problems with?
2. You are attacking my fan fiction! That has no bearing on my arguments, even when I argue that the Feds and the Empire should be compared AS THEY ARE!!
Bullshit, he IS comparing the two as they are technologically. Moreover, your entire argument depends on the size difference between the Remnant and the RotJ-era Empire being large enough to allow the UFP to stand a chance. You have done neither. All you are doing is attacking the premise of the site without any reason to do so, since you still cannot demonstrate that the UFP would win.
Neither is overly convincing.
That's because you are refusing to be convinced by totally ignoring and misrepresenting what Wong is telling you. If you were intelligent enough to understand the scope of the technological differences between the two, then you would understand it doesn't matter what era you draw the two sides from.
