Bible proves young universe.

[Magnetic]

Okay, this wasn't/isn't MY thought, but of another person (whom I will not name, nor will 'cut and paste' what he/she said).

This is what was said.

Genesis 1:15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heavens to give light upon the earth, and it was so.

There you have it folks! Proof that the celestial objects, regardless of their distance, were placed in the firmament, with their light already reaching our planet, . . because it said that they were to give light upon the earth, and it was so.

Therefore, you all are just. . . . . . wrong. Sorry. Hahahahahaha

Okay, back to reality, . . . I asked a question of him/her in regards to why distant stars, from galaxies that we cannot see with our naked eyes (only viewable with powerful telescopes), were created which in no way offer any light to our planet. I also stated that on a moonless night, stars offer very little help in lighting our planet. As lights go, they are practically useless.

Anyway, just FYI for you all.

[Jew]

I also stated that on a moonless night, stars offer very little help in lighting our planet. As lights go, they are practically useless.

True, but in context it seems apparent that the job of lighting the planet falls to the sun, moon, and stars as a whole, not just to the stars in particular. Still, the idea that this passage of the Bible "proves" anything about the age of the universe is foolishness.

14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark seasons and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth." And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.

[General Zod]

I don't see how this is anything new. Just another fundamentalist nutjob using alot of rationalization and pulling things out of their asses to prove their point.

[Darth Servo]

And the LORD opened the mouth of the ass, and she said unto Balaam, What have I done unto thee, that thou hast smitten me these three times?

Proof that the Biblical God talks out of his ass.

[Kettch]

Okay, back to reality, . . . I asked a question of him/her in regards to why distant stars, from galaxies that we cannot see with our naked eyes (only viewable with powerful telescopes), were created which in no way offer any light to our planet. I also stated that on a moonless night, stars offer very little help in lighting our planet. As lights go, they are practically useless.

Well not for you or me, you see we are the Second Children of Ilúvatar. Our eyes are not sensitive enough. Our fore fathers awoke only with the first rising of the sun. Now the First Children of Ilúvatar, the Eldar, (You know the "elves") were created durng the time of the trees, when the world beyond Valinor was only illuminated by stars. (It was also flat then, but that got changed later on). Anyway Ilúvatar designed, quite intelligently I should say, for elves to have excellent vision even with just start light.

Geez, kids these days with their Bibles and science text books. Vote for me for school board & I'll get the Silmarillion in the class room where it should be!

All praise Ilúvatar and his servant Manwë.

[Dalton]

Using the Bible to prove something is like using Lord of the Rings to prove that Homo Florensis were actually hobbits.

[Darth Wong]

That's the funny thing about fundies; they actually think that the Bible constitutes valid scientific evidence. As I've noted elsewhere, only religion could possibly make them do this despite the fact that the Bible describes talking shrubbery.

[Kettch]

Using the Bible to prove something is like using Lord of the Rings to prove that Homo Florensis were actually hobbits.

I know, I'm on the edge of my seat for them to find some fossilized pipeweed.

[mr friendly guy]

Does this guy even understand the concept of circular reasoning?

[wolveraptor]

That's the funny thing about fundies; they actually think that the Bible constitutes valid scientific evidence. As I've noted elsewhere, only religion could possibly make them do this despite the fact that the Bible describes talking shrubbery.

What verse is that?

[Molyneux]

That's the funny thing about fundies; they actually think that the Bible constitutes valid scientific evidence. As I've noted elsewhere, only religion could possibly make them do this despite the fact that the Bible describes talking shrubbery.

What verse is that?

Haven't you ever heard of the burning bush?
Exodus 3:1-2