What if your child asked...
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What if your child asked...
On another board (99% female), the question was asked "what would you do if your son came to you and asked to see the hole 'where daddy puts his penis.' How would you go about talking about it?
Almost all the women who responded thought that actually showing the child the hole would be either A) categorically wrong or B) Borderline abusive (or incest was actually used in a few posts.) Many opted to show the child a book or a diagram.
What would you do? Feel free to change the situaiton to your daughter asking about your penis. Is there a difference between showing the vagina or the penis?
Almost all the women who responded thought that actually showing the child the hole would be either A) categorically wrong or B) Borderline abusive (or incest was actually used in a few posts.) Many opted to show the child a book or a diagram.
What would you do? Feel free to change the situaiton to your daughter asking about your penis. Is there a difference between showing the vagina or the penis?
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Never had a kid, but I believe if it's shown earlier it may resolve some problems later in life (such as shyness of sex due to not knowing of the other sex's body parts, trust me this can happen). Plus I don't think the kid would give any real problem about it at a young age, besides the whole "eww, gross!!!" reaction.
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When I explained sexuality to Matthew, I just drew very simplistic pictures.
Personally, I don't think it would be a good idea for a budding adolescent's first look at a real live vagina to be his mother's vagina. That's just way too Freudian.
Personally, I don't think it would be a good idea for a budding adolescent's first look at a real live vagina to be his mother's vagina. That's just way too Freudian.
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I just thought of something...if a young child really wanted to see a vagina, they would just have to use Google Image search, right?
Would it be too liberal-minded if I just said "let them find out by themselves?"
Would it be too liberal-minded if I just said "let them find out by themselves?"
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I should mention the child in question was 6
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Eh. I'd make a few quick drawings. Keep it simple. The kid's gonna find out sooner or later...
Essentially: 'Okay, guys have this [draws]. You should know, you have one (don't have one if it's a girl). Girls have this [draws]. When a guy and a girl are old enough, and love each other, then the guy's piece goes in that. That's also how kids are started in Mama's stomach. Anything else?'
Essentially: 'Okay, guys have this [draws]. You should know, you have one (don't have one if it's a girl). Girls have this [draws]. When a guy and a girl are old enough, and love each other, then the guy's piece goes in that. That's also how kids are started in Mama's stomach. Anything else?'
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I basically did that when I explained human sexuality to Matthew, at which point he said "so did you and Mommy do it two times?"
Naturally, since we had two children, this seemed to be a perfectly logical conclusion to him. I had to explain that we've done it many, many, many times, and that people do it even when they don't plan on having children because it's fun. He then asked (naturally) why it's fun, because he didn't really see the appeal (yes, he's a youngster). I don't remember precisely what I said at that point, but it basically boiled down to "you play with your own willy, right?" and "you'll understand as you get older."
Naturally, since we had two children, this seemed to be a perfectly logical conclusion to him. I had to explain that we've done it many, many, many times, and that people do it even when they don't plan on having children because it's fun. He then asked (naturally) why it's fun, because he didn't really see the appeal (yes, he's a youngster). I don't remember precisely what I said at that point, but it basically boiled down to "you play with your own willy, right?" and "you'll understand as you get older."
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That one only covers about a step or two beyond the real basics, I'd say. I'm more talking about actual illustrations, like a biology book perhaps.Spanky The Dolphin wrote:You're refering to that one book we have, right?
It'd certainly be clearer than someone like me doing the drawing; they'd otherwise end up thinking everything looks like a turd or a raisin. Or a raisin within a turd...
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Quite frankly, those biology textbook drawings really don't give you a good idea what a real vagina looks like. For that, an issue of Hustler magazine would be more effective.
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Hustler is considerably cheaper than that, and will give you a much better idea of what a woman's vagina looks like.DPDarkPrimus wrote:Grey's Anatomy can be had for like $15 at Barnes & Noble...
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My take on it was that my own vagina would probably show him very little (plus, depending on when he asked, its not like I could show him anyway). I would think I would know where the question was coming from since hes my kid, and I would know what has been talked about and seen in the house (for example, when I lived in a rural part of NY, my family use to swim naked now and then in the pool and, because we had a well water system,- which meant you only got hot water for 3 showers in the AM and there were 6 of us- sometimes we showered together when we were younger).
I noticed a lot of women thought that showing the penis was completely different from the vagina, I guess because the vagina is pretty much hidden while just walking in on dad getting dressed would reveal the penis. Either way, I pretty much think that I would show them a book and, depending on how "open" of a family we end up being, have to deal with further questions later. i think that if its the norm that questions about private parts are ok in the house, then more will probably follow.
It seems there is a big movement among parents to be very open about sexual things from the start. Hopefully its a good sign that more and more parents will be involving themselves in their kid's sex education.
I noticed a lot of women thought that showing the penis was completely different from the vagina, I guess because the vagina is pretty much hidden while just walking in on dad getting dressed would reveal the penis. Either way, I pretty much think that I would show them a book and, depending on how "open" of a family we end up being, have to deal with further questions later. i think that if its the norm that questions about private parts are ok in the house, then more will probably follow.
It seems there is a big movement among parents to be very open about sexual things from the start. Hopefully its a good sign that more and more parents will be involving themselves in their kid's sex education.
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Darth Wong wrote:Hustler is considerably cheaper than that, and will give you a much better idea of what a woman's vagina looks like.DPDarkPrimus wrote:Grey's Anatomy can be had for like $15 at Barnes & Noble...
You must have missed that Mike.Cairbair wrote:I should mention the child in question was 6
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Nope, I didn't miss it. A full-colour picture of a vagina will not scar a child for life regardless of whether he's six or sixteen.DPDarkPrimus wrote:Darth Wong wrote:Hustler is considerably cheaper than that, and will give you a much better idea of what a woman's vagina looks like.DPDarkPrimus wrote:Grey's Anatomy can be had for like $15 at Barnes & Noble...You must have missed that Mike.Cairbair wrote:I should mention the child in question was 6
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Why go buy a Hustler when you can find just as good online and it's free? (Google's your friend!)Darth Wong wrote:Hustler is considerably cheaper than that, and will give you a much better idea of what a woman's vagina looks like.DPDarkPrimus wrote:Grey's Anatomy can be had for like $15 at Barnes & Noble...
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It may make the latter intensely jealous, though.Nope, I didn't miss it. A full-colour picture of a vagina will not scar a child for life regardless of whether he's six or sixteen.
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First of all I should say that my husband and myself haven't been really private about what we look like without clothes on. Our son is 4 and he sees us naked (not as often as he used to) sometimes but we go to the bathroom with the door open so we can hear what's going on with the kids whether they're fighting, falling down stairs etc. Even considering this I would have to say No I wouldn't be ready to jump right in and show our son mine if he asked but if he didn't get the answers he wanted from the books or pictures I would show him, then I guess I would let him have a quick look. But I would do all I could to make that a last resort. I want to raise kids woho will be open with me about what they are doing so I should be open with them about what I'm doing right.
I honestly don't know for sure, this is how I feel now about it but who knows what I'll feel like in a few years.
I honestly don't know for sure, this is how I feel now about it but who knows what I'll feel like in a few years.
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But... isn't Hustler pornography?Darth Wong wrote:Nope, I didn't miss it. A full-colour picture of a vagina will not scar a child for life regardless of whether he's six or sixteen.DPDarkPrimus wrote:Darth Wong wrote: Hustler is considerably cheaper than that, and will give you a much better idea of what a woman's vagina looks like.You must have missed that Mike.Cairbair wrote:I should mention the child in question was 6
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I don't think it would matter. As long as you approach the pictures from the right mindset and explain them in a non-pornographic way, then the child won't take them in that way. How you treat the material matters.DPDarkPrimus wrote: But... isn't Hustler pornography?
I took sexual behaviors in college, and some of the videos we were shown were of males and females masterbating. While the acts themselves could have been considered porn, the context they were in was decidedly scientific. It was easier, then, not to find such images sexually stimulating.
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How does this impact upon my point that a picture of a naked woman is not going to scar a kid for life? It's not as if I'm showing him a Max Hardcore video.DPDarkPrimus wrote:But... isn't Hustler pornography?
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