I will not debate you about wheather or not God exists for the same reason that I would not debate someone about whether or not the world is round. I believe that those who claim "There is no God" in the face of over whelming evidence of design found throught nature, are either fools or liars. Any person who honestly beleives that all of the marvelous complexity of this universe simply happened by chance is a fool. If he is not a fool, yet still claims to believe that this incredibly complex universe is a result of random chance, then I must conclude that he is not being honest. In either case, it is clearly a waste of time to argue the obvious.
I call that "throwing the gauntlet down". Don't you? I replied thusly:
Darth Wong wrote:
I will not debate you about wheather or not God exists for the same reason that I would not debate someone about whether or not the world is round. I believe that those who claim "There is no God" in the face of over whelming evidence of design found throught nature, are either fools or liars.
Ah, so you'll hurl insults but NOT rational arguments? How typical of a creationist. In reality, there is no evidence whatsoever of design.
Any person who honestly beleives that all of the marvelous complexity of this universe simply happened by chance is a fool.
Complexity is not an indicator of intelligent design. In fact, random chance will obviously lead to much greater complexity than intelligent design, which is generally elegant and minimal, achieving its design goals with the minimum possible complexity.
If he is not a fool, yet still claims to believe that this incredibly complex universe is a result of random chance, then I must conclude that he is not being honest.
Either that, or you are so woefully ignorant of the process of design and hence its symptoms that you have mistaken your religious leap in logic for actual intelligent thought.
In either case, it is clearly a waste of time to argue the obvious.
Yes, it is obviously a waste of time to argue with someone as ignorant and dogmatic as you so obviously are.
But wait ... after flaming all non-creationists as "fools or liars", she gets just one response from me (which is less insulting than the one she sent) and puts me in her killfile! See:
Imagine the earth a big iron ball, and a giant bird rest on it and sharpens its beak, by the time it erodes the iron earth down to nothing will be the beginning of eternity.
That is how long you will burn in Hell for your unbelief. God dosen't send people to hell. People send themselves. It is your choice.
It doesn't matter one iota whether you believe in God or not. God exists, and you have no say about it. Too bad so sad for you.
Your replys will not reach this box anymore. You are a waste of my time
Heh heh ... I sent this reply from a different addy:
Darth Wong wrote:
I did not call you a fool. God did. psalms 14:1
The same Biblical God who thinks hailstones are stored in warehouses in case of war? Don't make me laugh; intellectual barbs from an idiot like that are nothing to lose sleep over.
Imagine the earth a big iron ball, and a giant bird rest on it and sharpens its beak, by the time it erodes the iron earth down to nothing will be the beginning of eternity.
That is how long you will burn in Hell for your unbelief. God dosen't send people to hell. People send themselves. It is your choice.
Wow, you sound just like every abusive parent who ever lived: "This is your own fault! Just remember that while I'm whuppin' yo' ass, boy!!!" How pathetic; God was apparently modelled after an alcoholic redneck.
It doesn't matter one iota whether you believe in God or not. God exists, and you have no say about it. Too bad so sad for you.
In other words, you are utterly incapable of making a coherent argument, so you stick your fingers in your ears and say "I'm right, you're wrong, nyah nyah nyah!!!" Very impressive.
Your replys will not reach this box anymore. You are a waste of my time
Either that, or you can't stand to face reality where you are judged on the basis of your merits, not your allegiances.
Yes, it's true. Negative IQ numbers are possible, and we've just seen the proof.
"It's not evil for God to do it. Or for someone to do it at God's command."- Jonathan Boyd on baby-killing
"you guys are fascinated with the use of those "rules of logic" to the extent that you don't really want to discussus anything."- GC
"I do not believe Russian Roulette is a stupid act" - Embracer of Darkness
"Viagra commercials appear to save lives" - tharkûn on US health care.
She's just your typical bigot fundie with her head up her ass. She probably spent her life being indoctrated by fundies, and never saw the other side of the argument. She probably enjoys it, too.
Η ζωή, η ζωή εδω τελειώνει!
"Science is one cold-hearted bitch with a 14" strap-on" - Masuka 'Dexter'
"Angela is not the woman you think she is Gabriel, she's done terrible things"
"So have I, and I'm going to do them all to you." - Sylar to Arthur 'Heroes'
Don't forget to slam em with what did Satan do so wrong?
"A cult is a religion with no political power." -Tom Wolfe Pardon me for sounding like a dick, but I'm playing the tiniest violin in the world right now-Dalton
Sounds like she was raised on Chick tracts... I feel sorry for th person she could have been, that she would never exist.
data_link has resigned from the board after proving himself to be a relentless strawman-using asshole in this thread and being too much of a pussy to deal with the inevitable flames. Buh-bye.
TEEHEHEHE! She so STUUPID! I needed a laugh and that did it.
ISARMA: Daikaiju Coordinator: Just Add Radiation Justice League- Molly Hayes: Respect Hats or Freakin' Else! Browncoat Supernatural Taisen - "[This Story] is essentially "Wouldn't it be awesome if this happened?" Followed by explosions."
Reviewing movies is a lot like Paleontology: The Evidence is there...but no one seems to agree upon it.
"God! Are you so bored that you enjoy seeing us humans suffer?! Why can't you let this poor man live happily with his son! What kind of God are you, crushing us like ants?!" - Kyoami, Ran
Somewhere in the region of square root of negative 2'000'000?
Well, that actually does make sense. After all, 'i' does figure into her make up a lot.
Also, I'm not that annoyed by her, merely sad that she doesn't want to listen to others. I'm more annoyed at the people who brought her up only that way, than at her.
Imagine the earth a big iron ball, and a giant bird rest on it and sharpens its beak, by the time it erodes the iron earth down to nothing will be the beginning of eternity.
That is how long you will burn in Hell for your unbelief. God dosen't send people to hell. People send themselves. It is your choice.
This is certainly good news! Apparently, time spent in Hell is finite! If it will be the "beginning of eternity" by the time the bird is done, then I can just pick an arbitrary point on a timeline and choose that for the end of my incarceration in Hell! In fact, God must know calculus, so I'll just take the limit of Delta-t as t_f and t_i approach each other, and I'll be in Hell for an infinitesimally small amount of time. Damn, that bird works fast!
Praise Jesus and His Loving Word!
Damien Sorresso
"Ever see what them computa bitchez do to numbas? It ain't natural. Numbas ain't supposed to be code, they supposed to quantify shit."
- The Onion
I dream of a world one day in which people can say I do not believe in God for the following reasons so on and so forth. And than in this world there would be people who say that is great you do not believe in God ok no problem, I do believe in God (Allah, or something else) so have a nice day. Both people would smile and just go about there daily business.
Would that not be a great place?
I personally believe that there is something or someone who started this whole thing and every so often does something. Is it a god and alien or the force, who knows? I guess when we die we are going to be dead for good, see the great pearly gates (or in my case the fire and brimstone of hell) or come back as something else.
All I do know is when a large group of people starts shooting at you everyone I can see at the time prays to someone or something. That is the only time people will show true faith in something or someone.
