Secret floors in Japan?

Trytostaydead · Post by **Trytostaydead** » 2005-12-22 01:41am

I just got off of a phone with a buddy who came back from Japan accompanying his dad on a business trip. Apparently, there was a secret 40th floor to his hotel in its executive wing. One floor with about 30-40 women for "sexy massage." The elevator only went up to the 39th floor and you had to go up a staircase inside a room to reach the 40th.

Are these secret areas common in Japanese establishments? Because the hotel wasn't some love hotel or something, but a respectable business hotel.

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2005-12-22 01:50am

It's not exactly a secret floor if it's that easy to find out about.

Post by **weemadando** » 2005-12-22 01:59am

I know that when I stayed at "nice" hotels in Japan, they at the very least had dozens of guys outside with nice, full colour, glossy and explicit flyers for hookers. They were chased off about once a day by the doormen.

I don't know how many nude shots of sexy asians got collected on that school trip, but I'd wager it was enough to fill up a suitcase. As such, I wouldn't find it surprising at all if there were "sexy massages" available, but I doubt that the floor was originally built with that purpose in mind.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2005-12-22 03:08am

Yes. Quite common.

The Spartan · Post by **The Spartan** » 2005-12-22 06:49pm

So would prostitution like that be legal? Or more of an open secret, where they don't cause any fuss if there's not any "problems?"

Kwizard · Post by **Kwizard** » 2005-12-22 07:14pm

The Spartan wrote:So would prostitution like that be legal? Or more of an open secret, where they don't cause any fuss if there's not any "problems?"

Well presumably the massage is what's being sold, not any complimentary sex. Although I'm sure the latter would be a good selling point for the former.

It's still a little weird...

The Spartan · Post by **The Spartan** » 2005-12-22 07:23pm

Kwizard wrote:
The Spartan wrote:So would prostitution like that be legal? Or more of an open secret, where they don't cause any fuss if there's not any "problems?"
Well presumably the massage is what's being sold, not any complimentary sex. Although I'm sure the latter would be a good selling point for the former.

It's still a little weird...

Actually I was referencing Weemadando's "hooker flyers." But even going back to the OP which references "sexy massages" it could still be considered prostitution if "complimentary sex" is included with said massage. That's more what I'm getting at with the open secret question.

Trytostaydead · Post by **Trytostaydead** » 2005-12-22 08:18pm

I was also wondering if I were to go to Tokyo Mariott or something would I find the same thing?

LordShaithis · Post by **LordShaithis** » 2005-12-22 09:06pm

Now I have this image stuck in my head of Trytostaydead opening random doors in his hotel and asking the stunned occupants if this is the room with the secret staircase to the sexy massage floor.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2005-12-23 09:45am

When I went to montreal ( ?) some yrs ago, I found the same expierence. the elevator went 39 levels, and you could take the stairs to go one higher. My theory at the time was that it was for ambassadors, one of whom was visiting that week.

The Spartan · Post by **The Spartan** » 2005-12-23 03:18pm

Aren't there also buildings where the main elevators only go to certain floors and you need an access key to ride the "special" elevators beyond them?

Or am I thinking of a similar situation in the main elevators that have key access built in and kind of combining it all in my head?

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2005-12-23 03:48pm

The Spartan wrote:Aren't there also buildings where the main elevators only go to certain floors and you need an access key to ride the "special" elevators beyond them?

Or am I thinking of a similar situation in the main elevators that have key access built in and kind of combining it all in my head?

I don't know about special elevators, but in one of our libraries in my city I know you need a key for the elevator to access one of the floors you can't just get to by pressing a button. It'll take you to the floor above it and the floor below it, but you need a key to get to the floor in question. Probably just offices or something though.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2005-12-23 03:57pm

The Spartan wrote:Aren't there also buildings where the main elevators only go to certain floors and you need an access key to ride the "special" elevators beyond them?

Or am I thinking of a similar situation in the main elevators that have key access built in and kind of combining it all in my head?

Having elevators in which a key (usually your room keycard) is needed to get to certain VIP floors is very common in hotels, a Hyatt I stayed in while I was in Houston had about ten upper floors with such restricted access. But if you wanted, you could still walk up the fire stairs to get to those levels, and everyone had access to the roof, which had the hotel pool. An acutal hidden floor, espiclaly if it cant be noticed by just counting windows from the outside, is a different isuse though. They do exist, I’ve heard of them in many countries, but they sure aren’t common because they don’t have much point.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2005-12-23 04:03pm

An acutal hidden floor, espiclaly if it cant be noticed by just counting windows from the outside, is a different isuse though. They do exist, I’ve heard of them in many countries, but they sure aren’t common because they don’t have much point.

That's where we make the terrorists talk.

Sharp-kun · Post by **Sharp-kun** » 2005-12-23 06:03pm

The Spartan wrote:Aren't there also buildings where the main elevators only go to certain floors and you need an access key to ride the "special" elevators beyond them?

Our Computer Science building at Uni only has lifts to the 13th floor. The 14th is behind a locked door up some stairs.

I want to know what's up there now.

DesertFly · Post by **DesertFly** » 2005-12-23 07:52pm

Sharp-kun wrote:Our Computer Science building at Uni only has lifts to the 13th floor. The 14th is behind a locked door up some stairs.

I want to know what's up there now.

That's where they put the students who ask too many questions....

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2005-12-23 08:57pm

My workplace has a secret fifth floor. The staircases have been sealed above the fourth floor landing, but you can still get there by elevator. Nothing really special about it, though. They just closed it because the school is operating at half capacity and they don't need the space. It's mostly used for storage now. And probably making out and getting high.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2005-12-23 09:33pm

Sharp-kun wrote:Our Computer Science building at Uni only has lifts to the 13th floor. The 14th is behind a locked door up some stairs.

I want to know what's up there now.

It's the tunnel leading into John Malkovich's head.

avoidingthepo · Post by **avoidingthepo** » 2005-12-24 09:52am

at the happy garden massage parlor in atlantic city, they have a massage menu, advertise how pretty the asian wmoen who give you massages are, and include on the menu a 'happy ending'

i like to think that every place in japan offers a happy ending from the owners daughter

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2005-12-24 12:53pm

This isn't as funny as it sounds, since the forced prostitution (essentially sexual slavery) of women from Southeast Asia is exceptionally common in Japan, and those girls giving "sexy massages" probably aren't there willingly, and quite possibly aren't even adults.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2005-12-24 03:12pm

On the subject of secret floors; the Park Plaza Hotel in Los Angeles has a "secret" 4th and a 1/2 floor that's only accesible from the "Round Table Room" and a stairwell from the Banquet Room stage.

It also has a stairway to nowhere, a 5th floor gymnasium, and a YMCA in the basement. The most bizarre and wonderful building I've ever been in, and it's been in dozens of movies.

The stage, stairway to the 4th and a 1/2 floor is house right.

The exterior. If you look carefully below the filming lights on the boom thingy in the foreground, you can barely make out some small pillars on a balcony; that balcony is to the Round Table Room I mentioned.

...there are also stairs leading up to the large sculptural elements on the corners of the facade. Like I said, a wonderful and bizarre building. It's seen some extensive renovation since I was there in 1983-84, as well.