Modding Space Empire IV Gold

Trogdor · Post by **Trogdor** » 2005-12-22 07:49pm

All right, I'll take the Centauri. Dalton will probably kick my ass unless he gets really unlucky again, but I'll make him bleed for every inch. For the glory of the Republic! We will rule space again!

Post by **Dalton** » 2005-12-22 09:06pm

bwahahah

brianeyci · Post by **brianeyci** » 2005-12-22 09:35pm

I figured out why I couldn't retrofit. You can't have any cargo in your cargo holds, for example retrofitting from gas to ice colony.

Brian

Trogdor · Post by **Trogdor** » 2005-12-22 10:02pm

Dalton wrote: bwahahah

*reads wiki page*

Foolish Narn, you are mere infants to the interstellar stage. The Lion of the Galaxy will enslave you once more!

BTW, are we ever going to start the Adamant Mod game? As much as I like playing as Space Romans, I'd like to try being something else.

brianeyci · Post by **brianeyci** » 2005-12-22 10:12pm

Not sure if nepthys and arthur are still up for it, if they are they I can start with a small galaxy, 10 planets and we can make it a very brutal very fast game.

Brian

Arthur_Tuxedo · Post by **Arthur_Tuxedo** » 2005-12-22 11:51pm

Nah. Sorry, but 3 games at once is beyond excessive. I'm already doubting my sanity as I commit to 2.

Nephtys · Post by **Nephtys** » 2005-12-23 03:28am

Maybe when the ST game winds down then we can go Adamant, but two games should be good for me.

LordShaithis · Post by **LordShaithis** » 2005-12-23 05:10am

Commentary from someone who doesn't know squat about this game, but keeps tabs on the RP thread:

The Federation/Romulan/Federation alliance are the 'good guys' of the story, while the 'villains' are obviously the Borg/Ferengi team. Sooner or later the two are bound to go to war. Since the FRF is three factions while the BF are only two, they would seem to have the advantage. There's that, and the fact that the Borg and Ferengi don't seem to get along all that well.

Zargat is fond of expounding upon all the devious uberweapons his faction has in the works, but I wonder whether he really has anything the others don't, or if he just likes talking about them more. Surely the other nations have their own secret projects?

And while Bones seems worried about the Romulans dragging them into something bad, the fact is the Romulans would be well-advised to more or less behave themselves, lest they find themselves alienated from the two Federations.

Play faster, and get to the Huge Fucking War.

Trogdor · Post by **Trogdor** » 2005-12-23 09:39am

Very well, after we're done with the ST game, then. Three games is probably too much anyway.

LordShaithis: Much as I hate to say it, I wouldn't underestimate the Borg/Ferengi alliance. They're outnumbered three empires to two, but the UFP Feds are not one of the most powerful players in this game, due to be bottled up between me and the Trill at the start of the game. Also, Brian has a rather strong hold of first place (the last time he lost it was only when my colony fleet got so huge that my ship count ballooned my score to higher than his) and Borg tech is quite potent. Also, odds are I may be having to fight two wars soon; first contact with the Klingons draws near for me, and Dalton and I did do quite a bit of trashing talking.

That said, Tux and I are in second and third place, I've been doing a military buildup, and I am currently leading in terms of intelligence points, so I wouldn't underestimate my alliance, either.

Oh, and I do tend to behave myself. Though I'll admit that the UFP would have become a very tempting target if I wasn't afraid of what Tux would do...

As to Brian's wonder tech, well, it's true that he has no uberweapons (WMDs cost an insane number of research points in the ST mod, something he hadn't counted on). He does, however, have the level 3 Genesis torp and is working on building a ship with one, I think. It'll let him turn asteroid fields into planets, and such planets are very, very valuable. Once he starts colonizing those, the only way to challenge him resources wise would be to either do the same or expand all over the map.

Post by **Dalton** » 2005-12-23 09:57am

Trogdor wrote:
Dalton wrote: bwahahah
*reads wiki page*

Foolish Narn, you are mere infants to the interstellar stage. The Lion of the Galaxy will enslave you once more!

BTW, are we ever going to start the Adamant Mod game? As much as I like playing as Space Romans, I'd like to try being something else.

You seem to forget that the Narn drove the Centauri from their world

Trogdor · Post by **Trogdor** » 2005-12-23 10:21am

Forget, I'm not sure I ever knew!

Be that as it may, however, I will regain the Republic's former glory, and crushing you is on the path to that glory!

Arthur_Tuxedo · Post by **Arthur_Tuxedo** » 2005-12-23 11:26am

One thing about the planet creators in this mod, though, is that you can't guarantee that it will be of the right atmosphere. In regular SE4, you could create and then destroy until it was the breatheable one, but in this mod you're stuck with it once you've created it.

EDIT: Wait a minute, why the hell are we talking about the Star Trek game in this thread? This sort of cross-pollination is not going to produce a healthy plant.

Trogdor · Post by **Trogdor** » 2005-12-23 01:37pm

Good point, Tux.

LordShaithis: If you wish to discuss the ST mod game, go and do it in the proper thread, please. This one's the B5 mod game thread.

brianeyci · Post by **brianeyci** » 2005-12-23 01:55pm

Lol, no this is a totally hijacked thread that nobody knows what it's about so nyah nyah.

And thanks LordSathsis, capitalism shall prevail... wait the Borg are communist... lol, whatever.

Brian

Nephtys · Post by **Nephtys** » 2005-12-23 02:12pm

brianeyci wrote:Lol, no this is a totally hijacked thread that nobody knows what it's about so nyah nyah.

And thanks LordSathsis, capitalism shall prevail... wait the Borg are communist... lol, whatever.

Brian

We charge you for the first bolt we drive into your temple. After that, the AssimiCare program pays for that. For some reason, consumer purchases after that point seem to drop. Not the Government's fault!

LordShaithis · Post by **LordShaithis** » 2005-12-23 03:25pm

I could have sworn I posted this in the ST game thread. I even looked through it before I remembered to check this thread. Oops. A mod could just lift that post out and toss it into the ST one, and I'd be a happy guy.

GuppyShark · Post by **GuppyShark** » 2006-01-01 10:00pm

Oh crap.

Looks like there's a problem with the Drazi empire file that comes with the B5 Mod - it's the Vorlon file.

I'll have to take a look for a standard Drazi empire file.

brianeyci · Post by **brianeyci** » 2006-01-01 10:04pm

Game's not going to start for another 24 hours.

If you can't find it I see no problem if you create the race yourself, as long as you base the statistics on another race out there and pick only Drazi racials.

Brian

Nephtys · Post by **Nephtys** » 2006-01-01 10:20pm

Sounds good to me. But hrm. I'm still split over Minbari or Shadows. If someone wants to play Minbari, you can take 'em, perhaps? Because we do need a Shadows player.

GuppyShark · Post by **GuppyShark** » 2006-01-01 11:02pm

Maybe I should take the Shadows - Kojiro and I know each other pretty well and forcing us to be enemies probably isn't a bad idea.

Nephtys · Post by **Nephtys** » 2006-01-02 01:28am

GuppyShark wrote:Maybe I should take the Shadows - Kojiro and I know each other pretty well and forcing us to be enemies probably isn't a bad idea.

Then go for it. This time, you'll be crushing me with superior firepower, methinks.

RPing the Shadows isn't that bad. Just get your evil clean-cut car-salesman represenatative, and be all invisible and troublecausing.

GuppyShark · Post by **GuppyShark** » 2006-01-02 03:43am

Thankfully I'm pretty familiar with B5. Should be fun.

"What do you want?"

Trogdor · Post by **Trogdor** » 2006-01-02 11:46am

Wow, I'm really glad that we're doing a B5 instead of the Adamant game now. I've been playing the Adamant mod; it's fun but it takes some getting used to. My first attempts at planetary invasions met with total, crushing failure...

brianeyci · Post by **brianeyci** » 2006-01-02 11:54am

Oh yeah.

Over five hundred divisions of brave Ferengi troops have been shot down by Ullian air defenses. I've wasted whole fleets of Maurader trying to kill them, but their fucking weapons platforms keep knocking me out. They stockpiled 50 satellites and 20 weapons platforms on their homeworld. This time I'm going in with a fully equipped fleet. You know what happened the last time I tried to invade? I killed every single one of the satellites and weapons platforms except for 2. Then my troop transport went in and was obliterated by those two measly satellites.

And they started out one sector away from me. I could have taken their homeworld on turn 4 but I waited for them to build a colony ship so I could capture it. Too bad when I captured it, it only gave me 250k research point boost in warp drive and not what I wanted--gas colonization. Then I read the mod information and found I couldn't get gas colonization from a race that had gas naturally, I had to research it. Silly me.

Of course I didn't RP all of the failures, the one I did was actually one of the best I got within one square of dropping troops before the weapons platforms opened up on my large transport with 10 Shield X and annihilated it. Lol

.

Brian

Trogdor · Post by **Trogdor** » 2006-01-02 12:21pm

In the ST game I've only invaded once, and that was actually a success (gotta love those Romulan cloaks, Talosians didn't even know I had a fleet in their system until it was upon them

), but my attempts in the Adamant mod never stood a chance. I tried to invade an enemy home world with about 600 troops, split between 2 transports. Only thing is because worlds hold so many more people in Adamant, both armires met with 6000 defenders and were destroyed on the first ground combat turn.