The Federation hires Jango Fett to train their ground forces

[NecronLord]

Didn't AoTC mention that the Kaminoans already had a reputation for good clone armies? Jango is a good fighter, and possibly a good trainer, but he's not an all-in-one; even with some trustworthy men to help, he's basically going to have to build a effective Federation army from the ground up, and devise entirely new tactics for their weaponry.

Indeed. Kamino made them, Kaut equipped them, and Jango assisted in laying out the training programme, while working with professional Kaminoan trainers. Jango seems to also have a role in giving design specifications for the weapons - which is how I rationalise his 'helping design' the equipment. He lists all the things he'd want in a rifle, or a helmet, etc, and they get sent off to the designers as specifications.

[Guardsman Bass]

Didn't AoTC mention that the Kaminoans already had a reputation for good clone armies? Jango is a good fighter, and possibly a good trainer, but he's not an all-in-one; even with some trustworthy men to help, he's basically going to have to build a effective Federation army from the ground up, and devise entirely new tactics for their weaponry.

Indeed. Kamino made them, Kaut equipped them, and Jango assisted in laying out the training programme, while working with professional Kaminoan trainers. Jango seems to also have a role in giving design specifications for the weapons - which is how I rationalise his 'helping design' the equipment. He lists all the things he'd want in a rifle, or a helmet, etc, and they get sent off to the designers as specifications.

Even that would be a problem, though. He might send to the Federation Industry an order for "x amounts of heavy anti-personnel weapons," where upon the Federation Industry responds with a polite "I'm sorry, could you tell us exactly what a 'heavy anti-personnel weapon' is?"

Now, if he had a lot of time, and was being payed very heavily for this, it might be possible, but it is still a lot to ask even Jango Fett to devise entirely new tactics, and conceivably weapons, for a new Army, and then turn around and organize the entire training effort.

[Ghost Rider]

Didn't AoTC mention that the Kaminoans already had a reputation for good clone armies? Jango is a good fighter, and possibly a good trainer, but he's not an all-in-one; even with some trustworthy men to help, he's basically going to have to build a effective Federation army from the ground up, and devise entirely new tactics for their weaponry.

Indeed. Kamino made them, Kaut equipped them, and Jango assisted in laying out the training programme, while working with professional Kaminoan trainers. Jango seems to also have a role in giving design specifications for the weapons - which is how I rationalise his 'helping design' the equipment. He lists all the things he'd want in a rifle, or a helmet, etc, and they get sent off to the designers as specifications.

Even that would be a problem, though. He might send to the Federation Industry an order for "x amounts of heavy anti-personnel weapons," where upon the Federation Industry responds with a polite "I'm sorry, could you tell us exactly what a 'heavy anti-personnel weapon' is?"

Now, if he had a lot of time, and was being payed very heavily for this, it might be possible, but it is still a lot to ask even Jango Fett to devise entirely new tactics, and conceivably weapons, for a new Army, and then turn around and organize the entire training effort.

You bring up a good point.

Jango is not some all in wonder, he is a very well trained individual. But in this scenario he thrusted into a military that does not even use a NBC suit into hostile enviroments(unless you want to call that bulky thing in FC as such), let alone other basic military protocol.

He would have to first teach them that before improving their level of tactics and such.

[Guardsman Bass]

Indeed. Kamino made them, Kaut equipped them, and Jango assisted in laying out the training programme, while working with professional Kaminoan trainers. Jango seems to also have a role in giving design specifications for the weapons - which is how I rationalise his 'helping design' the equipment. He lists all the things he'd want in a rifle, or a helmet, etc, and they get sent off to the designers as specifications.

Even that would be a problem, though. He might send to the Federation Industry an order for "x amounts of heavy anti-personnel weapons," where upon the Federation Industry responds with a polite "I'm sorry, could you tell us exactly what a 'heavy anti-personnel weapon' is?"

Now, if he had a lot of time, and was being payed very heavily for this, it might be possible, but it is still a lot to ask even Jango Fett to devise entirely new tactics, and conceivably weapons, for a new Army, and then turn around and organize the entire training effort.

You bring up a good point.

Jango is not some all in wonder, he is a very well trained individual. But in this scenario he thrusted into a military that does not even use a NBC suit into hostile enviroments(unless you want to call that bulky thing in FC as such), let alone other basic military protocol.

He would have to first teach them that before improving their level of tactics and such.

Which would, in turn, take an incredible amount of time, unless the UFP hired a bunch of military trainers and ex-Republic officers to train their force. At which point, one wonders, 'why even bother hiring Jango in the first place?' He may be an excellent soldier, but the Federation would probably be getting their money's worth by simply hiring actual retired Republic tactitians.

[NecronLord]

Even that would be a problem, though. He might send to the Federation Industry an order for "x amounts of heavy anti-personnel weapons," where upon the Federation Industry responds with a polite "I'm sorry, could you tell us exactly what a 'heavy anti-personnel weapon' is?"

Actually, I can just see that. Jango banging his head on a wall (doorframe?) out of frustration.

[Guardsman Bass]

Even that would be a problem, though. He might send to the Federation Industry an order for "x amounts of heavy anti-personnel weapons," where upon the Federation Industry responds with a polite "I'm sorry, could you tell us exactly what a 'heavy anti-personnel weapon' is?"

Actually, I can just see that. Jango banging his head on a wall (doorframe?) out of frustration.

In all fairness, since we're assuming that the Federation has contact with the Trade Federation, it may be possible for Jango to completely short-cut this problem by simply demanding that the Federation purchase adequate weaponry from the arms manufacturers in the SW galaxy that he selects.
That way, at least half of his work is already done; he doesn't have to spend his highly valuable time trying to intimidate Federation bureaucrats into giving him the right kinds of phasers.

[Sidewinder]

Even that would be a problem, though. He might send to the Federation Industry an order for "x amounts of heavy anti-personnel weapons," where upon the Federation Industry responds with a polite "I'm sorry, could you tell us exactly what a 'heavy anti-personnel weapon' is?"

Actually, I can just see that. Jango banging his head on a wall (doorframe?) out of frustration.

In all fairness, since we're assuming that the Federation has contact with the Trade Federation, it may be possible for Jango to completely short-cut this problem by simply demanding that the Federation purchase adequate weaponry from the arms manufacturers in the SW galaxy that he selects.
That way, at least half of his work is already done; he doesn't have to spend his highly valuable time trying to intimidate Federation bureaucrats into giving him the right kinds of phasers.

Man, the Hutts, as the middlemen between the UFP and SW universe weapons manufacturers, are going to make a KILLING! (They'll also sell weapons to the Klingons, Romulans, Ferengi, Breen, and anyone else who wants high-powered weapons, like pirates and other criminal organizations-- which means the UFP will want more powerful weapons, and will pay extra to get these weapons.)

[Guardsman Bass]

Actually, I can just see that. Jango banging his head on a wall (doorframe?) out of frustration.

In all fairness, since we're assuming that the Federation has contact with the Trade Federation, it may be possible for Jango to completely short-cut this problem by simply demanding that the Federation purchase adequate weaponry from the arms manufacturers in the SW galaxy that he selects.
That way, at least half of his work is already done; he doesn't have to spend his highly valuable time trying to intimidate Federation bureaucrats into giving him the right kinds of phasers.

Man, the Hutts, as the middlemen between the UFP and SW universe weapons manufacturers, are going to make a KILLING! (They'll also sell weapons to the Klingons, Romulans, Ferengi, Breen, and anyone else who wants high-powered weapons, like pirates and other criminal organizations-- which means the UFP will want more powerful weapons, and will pay extra to get these weapons.)

You have no idea. Whoever corners the market in not only weapons, but warships, and military technology, is going to be beyond rich, especially if he or she plays the resource market well (since probably the only thing that the governments will be able to pay for the weapons and tech with will be resources).

[Jack Bauer]

'Jango Fett: Open Seasons' specifically depicts him as Mandalore, leader of the Mandalorians. He's competent in small unit tactics, and has leadership experience; he didn't become a lone wolf until after Jedi knights, led by Dooku, wiped out the Mandalorians.

On a side note, if this actually happened, why the hell would Fett later work FOR Dooku during AotC?

[Lord Revan]

'Jango Fett: Open Seasons' specifically depicts him as Mandalore, leader of the Mandalorians. He's competent in small unit tactics, and has leadership experience; he didn't become a lone wolf until after Jedi knights, led by Dooku, wiped out the Mandalorians.

On a side note, if this actually happened, why the hell would Fett later work FOR Dooku during AotC?

Mandalorian have rather strange way of dealing with defeat in combat/war, basically if the loss is considered honorble by the Mandalorian, they don't care if they have lost the war (even if they're almost wiped out (this comes from KOTOR so it might no longer apply to Jango Fett, but AOTC and few CW books suggest that it does))

[Edward Yee]

*imagines Jango trying to train a "redshirt" (gold-shirt) fire team or squad*

Jango: "Alright, men--"
Politically-correct redshirt: "Persons!"
Jango: "..."

Anyone think that this should be my sig?

[Guardsman Bass]

'Jango Fett: Open Seasons' specifically depicts him as Mandalore, leader of the Mandalorians. He's competent in small unit tactics, and has leadership experience; he didn't become a lone wolf until after Jedi knights, led by Dooku, wiped out the Mandalorians.

On a side note, if this actually happened, why the hell would Fett later work FOR Dooku during AotC?

He's also a mercenary bounty hunter; dealing with unpleasant clients is a part of business.

[Noble Ire]

'Jango Fett: Open Seasons' specifically depicts him as Mandalore, leader of the Mandalorians. He's competent in small unit tactics, and has leadership experience; he didn't become a lone wolf until after Jedi knights, led by Dooku, wiped out the Mandalorians.

On a side note, if this actually happened, why the hell would Fett later work FOR Dooku during AotC?

He's also a mercenary bounty hunter; dealing with unpleasant clients is a part of business.

Besides, Mandalorians have a tendancy to respect those who defeat them. Just look at Canderous Ordo, and how he regarded Revan.

[starfury]

or even that Mandalorians who joined Exan's apprentice after he beat them, they basicly joined him in the war against the republic.

[chitoryu12]

If Jango tried to train the redshirts, he would have a tough time. The guys are pansies. They get killed within minutes, and are trained in little more than basic hand-to-hand and "marksmanship" with sidearms. It's like taking a recruit in modern times and teaching him the basics of CQC and how to shoot an M9 handgun.

Fett would have to teach them all-new tactics, such as HOW TO SURVIVE MORE THAN TEN SECONDS ON A BATTLEFIELD and BODY ARMOR 101.

The Federation army is barely even an army. We can't really expect even one of the greatest bounty hunters in the known universe to train a bunch of green-I mean red- recruits.

[Stark]

Holy necro. Try to read the rules before you post.

[Ghost Rider]

Bad necro...papa spank.