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Go learn more about black holes....

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John De Lancie, who played Q in 3 of the Star Trek series, is narrating a new film on black holes at the Clark Planetarium in Salt Lake City, UT. He's going to BE THERE , at the film’s Grand Opening, January 17th from 6-9. Black Hole specialist Stacy Palen from Weber State University will also be lecturing later that night. Tickets are $15, $20 for non-members. This should be a first rate night. I saw the trailer for the film today and it is absolutely phenomenal. The designers used actual relativity theories to graphically recreate the black holes. Skywalker Ranch is doing the sound FX. The whole thing is amazing. Check out Clark’s website below for more info:

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GammaCiari wrote:John De Lancie, who played Q in 3 of the Star Trek series, is narrating a new film on black holes at the Clark Planetarium in Salt Lake City, UT. He's going to BE THERE , at the film’s Grand Opening, January 17th from 6-9. Black Hole specialist Stacy Palen from Weber State University will also be lecturing later that night. Tickets are $15, $20 for non-members. This should be a first rate night. I saw the trailer for the film today and it is absolutely phenomenal. The designers used actual relativity theories to graphically recreate the black holes. Skywalker Ranch is doing the sound FX. The whole thing is amazing. Check out Clark’s website below for more info:

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No it's technically not advertising...

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Keeping with the high brow nature of the website:

Advertising is a paid, mass media message with an identified sponsor

This is a recommendation to go see something REALLY cool dealing with the new advances in black hole science in the last year. If you want to pull go ahead. If you have a calendar or news events, which I didn't see, please post it there. We are trying to get the word out. Thanks
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GammaCiari wrote:We are trying to get the word out. Thanks

ad·ver·tise
v. ad·ver·tised, ad·ver·tis·ing, ad·ver·tis·es
v. tr.

1. To make public announcement of, especially to proclaim the qualities or advantages of (a product or business) so as to increase sales. See Synonyms at announce.
2. To make known; call attention to: advertised my intention to resign.
3. To warn or notify: “This event advertises me that there is such a fact as death” (Henry David Thoreau).


Um, yeah... That's advertising, my man.
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As cool as it does sound - I really wish I was in the area so I could see that guy in person, I loved "I, Q" - dude, read the rules. That's what they're for.
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GammaCiari, you realize that many people on this forum don't even live in the United States, and the fraction that does don't live close enough to Salt Lake City to make the trip worthwhile (such as little ol' me), and only some of those availible will even care (because they're Q fans or black-hole fans).
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GammaCiari wrote: Tickets are $15, $20 for non-members.

ad·ver·tise
v. ad·ver·tised, ad·ver·tis·ing, ad·ver·tis·es
v. tr.

1. To make public announcement of, especially to proclaim the qualities or advantages of (a product or business) so as to increase sales. See Synonyms at announce.
2. To make known; call attention to: advertised my intention to resign.
3. To warn or notify: “This event advertises me that there is such a fact as death” (Henry David Thoreau).


Sorry thought of this a few minutes ago...

Can someone who is a little more well versed in things like logic and debate point out how I'm wrong with this one... Seriously, I wanna learn...


You're telling us that in order to attend this event we must pay money, which both according to the definition of "Advertising" that you and I have provided, means you are peddling something. You are both "getting the word out" and "asking for our money". Yup, this be advertising, arrrrr.....
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I am sorry for posting this on your site and upsetting the community. That was not my intention. I appreciate your responses and I will leave your site without any more "advertising" of any kind. If anyone would like any information feel free to look at the planetarium's website.

Thank You.
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GammaCiari wrote:I am sorry for posting this on your site and upsetting the community. That was not my intention. I appreciate your responses and I will leave your site without any more "advertising" of any kind. If anyone would like any information feel free to look at the planetarium's website.

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Dude, feel free to hang around the forums, it's a pretty cool place! Just no overt plugs for stuff that you have to pay for...
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Wow, sure is a bunch of moderatin' coming from non-mods here. :roll:
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Frank Hipper wrote:Wow, sure is a bunch of moderatin' coming from non-mods here. :roll:
I think it shows a proper respect for the rules and a stern but measured response to someone new who didn't read the rules. It displays a respect for the community and its standards by those that have spent a bit of time here.

You make it sound like it's a bad thing.
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Zed Snardbody wrote:
Frank Hipper wrote:Wow, sure is a bunch of moderatin' coming from non-mods here. :roll:
I think it shows a proper respect for the rules <snip>
You can stop right there, AR1 states: If you have a complaint about another member, contact one of the moderators of the forum in which the alleged offense took place. Do not be a "back-seat moderator".

It shows a disregard for the rules, not a respect for them.
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Sorry.. :oops:
Forgot that rule,, I won't do it again.
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Keevan_Colton wrote:
Zed Snardbody wrote:
Frank Hipper wrote:Wow, sure is a bunch of moderatin' coming from non-mods here. :roll:
I think it shows a proper respect for the rules <snip>
You can stop right there, AR1 states: If you have a complaint about another member, contact one of the moderators of the forum in which the alleged offense took place. Do not be a "back-seat moderator".

It shows a disregard for the rules, not a respect for them.
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Note to self: "What you did counts as an AR1 violation."

And so ends my official "D'OH!"-position on this matter. :oops:
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Jesus fucking Christ, people regularly encourage others to watch a particular documentary or TV show here, and we don't slap them down for advertising.

If there were a policy decision to be made, you morons should have notified a mod or at least a senator rather than taking it upon yourselves to drive away a new member by dog-piling on him for nothing.
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GammaCiari wrote:John De Lancie, who played Q in 3 of the Star Trek series, is narrating a new film on black holes at the Clark Planetarium in Salt Lake City, UT. He's going to BE THERE , at the film’s Grand Opening, January 17th from 6-9. Black Hole specialist Stacy Palen from Weber State University will also be lecturing later that night. Tickets are $15, $20 for non-members. This should be a first rate night. I saw the trailer for the film today and it is absolutely phenomenal. The designers used actual relativity theories to graphically recreate the black holes. Skywalker Ranch is doing the sound FX.
Sounds awesome actually, if I were attending Weber State I would definately go, but I'm not, so bother. I wonder if this film will ever come out on DVD, if it does, I'd definitely be on the lookout for it.
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Post by dragon »

Sounds really interesting and wish I could go but I am in Europe so a little far. I don't see whats wrong with a little ad after all most of us have done it at one point or another.
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Keevan_Colton wrote: It shows a disregard for the rules, not a respect for them.
In my more cynical moments I'd actually bet that its more of a plug for future Senate membership than anything else but meh.
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CmdrWilkens wrote:
Keevan_Colton wrote: It shows a disregard for the rules, not a respect for them.
In my more cynical moments I'd actually bet that its more of a plug for future Senate membership than anything else but meh.
Anybody who thinks that any sort of backseat moderating would be seen as a positive for being considered for the Senate is sadly mistaken.

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To wit, is there any proper form for event announcements and such? I found this to be an interesting prospect and, though impossible for me to attend, I would certainly like to know about events like this on the off chance that they are accessable to me. How should those announcments be made to avoid violating the no advertising rule?
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Post by Edi »

If it's something significant that concerns a topic of general interest to a large part of the board population, it isn't at all out of line to post a topic about such an event happening. The staff does not regard this particular thread as being anywhere near violating the advertising rule for that reason (because on this board, black holes are a topic of general interest), whereas stuff like "Come look at my cool website about <insert topic>" would run afoul of it.

However, if you're not absolutely sure about a thread, ask a moderator if it's okay to post it to avoid shitfests like this thread turned into.

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